Other comics tackeld the issue of "Post Hero Battle Cleanup" too, even if in a lighter mood:
http://loveandcapes.com/lnc/?p=989 (what happens if a married superman expy becomes houseowner)
irrevenant: That's pretty much what he's saying. He doesn't mean "didn't" as in failed to stop the end of the world and means when was the last time they did something OTHER than save the world - unless the world is destroyed and this is all in their heads? ;D As for Shell and Bujin - they live in different worlds. He may have been too busy to learn the origin - but yes, he also feels he abandoned Japan: Shell's main message here though is why the HA is good and not as bad as Bujin may think.
Next page is on the way folks, may be a few days short but it will be with you ASAP
I'm a bit surprised Bujin doesn't know Shell's background. Though I guess from his perspective Shell kind of 'abandoned' Japan. Have to laugh at that first line though "When was the last time you as a team didn't save the world from certain doom?". That question kind of answers itself given that the world's still here, no? :D
Oh wait, *that* Shell. I was wondering why Bombshell had a wife and looked rather male. Took me some time to remember that there was a hero named only "Shell" and thus Shell was not a short for Bombshell.
I was hoping this page would get people thinking or get a discussion going on. The topic of heroes and following up and doing things OTHER than punching people in the face has always appealed to me. Thanks for kind words, MR...this conversation also shows the connection Shell and Bujin have. They simply have a mutual respect being heroes in Japan and roughly standing by the same principles - I think if Bujin heard this from Bombshell he may not have listened at all...but hearing it from Shell actually makes him stop walking away.
I was thinking of creating a hero for this argument. He or she would not be involve with so much the fight but with repairs at ground zero locations. In my universe it's not one person on a team. It's A sector of government at exists at major US citys' like New York and Atlanta. I call them mid level metas humans(MLMH). The job is simple. Rebuild what has happen to a site. The only draw back was no mid level meta human were the same. They have to be very smart, have a great understanding of particle matter and physics. They are paid very well in my universe that there are special schools to go to as a career choice. More or less I call it hyper civil engineering 2. The person appling must ontrol a few areas of elements and be a telekinetic at a low level. Each MLMH are assisted to normal civil engineers for inspection or planning. It sucks to a point that they are always on call. But does not hold true for areas with low income. Maybe that's what this universe needs too.
WOW!This is a great page and very thought-provoking. Good points made by The Bujin here, I think. What he says isn't too far from the truth - you do see heroes thinking themselves more than civilians and forgetting the collateral damage. We really do only see them fighting the fight then disappearing, not clearing up. The point made about Energize and Nemesis is also brilliant and something I (maybe others) have been thinking also. It's not fair to put the blame on Shell, but he was the one who trained him - couldn't he have seen the signs? Why did no-one notice Natasha's downfall before it was too late and why did no one ever try to properly prepare for Energize (Black Dawn, yes - but that seemed like a "if all else fails" kind of thing)- it's good to see this kind of conversation because The Bujin isn't necessarily wrong. I also LOVE how Shell brings it home in that final panel - he's promising that is not what happens and I think it really makes his character shine.....
zgrssd at 3:39AM, July 4, 2013
Other comics tackeld the issue of "Post Hero Battle Cleanup" too, even if in a lighter mood: http://loveandcapes.com/lnc/?p=989 (what happens if a married superman expy becomes houseowner)
irrevenant at 12:26AM, July 4, 2013
@Ironhand: Yeah, I know - I just thought the way he phrased it was funny. :) And it's a good point.
ironhand at 5:46AM, July 3, 2013
irrevenant: That's pretty much what he's saying. He doesn't mean "didn't" as in failed to stop the end of the world and means when was the last time they did something OTHER than save the world - unless the world is destroyed and this is all in their heads? ;D As for Shell and Bujin - they live in different worlds. He may have been too busy to learn the origin - but yes, he also feels he abandoned Japan: Shell's main message here though is why the HA is good and not as bad as Bujin may think. Next page is on the way folks, may be a few days short but it will be with you ASAP
irrevenant at 12:53AM, July 3, 2013
I'm a bit surprised Bujin doesn't know Shell's background. Though I guess from his perspective Shell kind of 'abandoned' Japan. Have to laugh at that first line though "When was the last time you as a team didn't save the world from certain doom?". That question kind of answers itself given that the world's still here, no? :D
zgrssd at 11:37PM, June 27, 2013
Oh wait, *that* Shell. I was wondering why Bombshell had a wife and looked rather male. Took me some time to remember that there was a hero named only "Shell" and thus Shell was not a short for Bombshell.
ironhand at 2:13PM, June 27, 2013
I was hoping this page would get people thinking or get a discussion going on. The topic of heroes and following up and doing things OTHER than punching people in the face has always appealed to me. Thanks for kind words, MR...this conversation also shows the connection Shell and Bujin have. They simply have a mutual respect being heroes in Japan and roughly standing by the same principles - I think if Bujin heard this from Bombshell he may not have listened at all...but hearing it from Shell actually makes him stop walking away.
Abt_Nihil at 12:31PM, June 27, 2013
Your MLMH should have been there to clean up the mess at the end of Man of Steel ;)
cdmalcolm1 at 12:06PM, June 27, 2013
I was thinking of creating a hero for this argument. He or she would not be involve with so much the fight but with repairs at ground zero locations. In my universe it's not one person on a team. It's A sector of government at exists at major US citys' like New York and Atlanta. I call them mid level metas humans(MLMH). The job is simple. Rebuild what has happen to a site. The only draw back was no mid level meta human were the same. They have to be very smart, have a great understanding of particle matter and physics. They are paid very well in my universe that there are special schools to go to as a career choice. More or less I call it hyper civil engineering 2. The person appling must ontrol a few areas of elements and be a telekinetic at a low level. Each MLMH are assisted to normal civil engineers for inspection or planning. It sucks to a point that they are always on call. But does not hold true for areas with low income. Maybe that's what this universe needs too.
melsr007 at 11:39AM, June 27, 2013
Nice!!
Hero at 5:30AM, June 27, 2013
It is a nice comparison and contrasting of viewpoints.
mind_reader at 2:55AM, June 27, 2013
...epic word, Ironhand. Good dialogue and good character development.
mind_reader at 2:55AM, June 27, 2013
WOW!This is a great page and very thought-provoking. Good points made by The Bujin here, I think. What he says isn't too far from the truth - you do see heroes thinking themselves more than civilians and forgetting the collateral damage. We really do only see them fighting the fight then disappearing, not clearing up. The point made about Energize and Nemesis is also brilliant and something I (maybe others) have been thinking also. It's not fair to put the blame on Shell, but he was the one who trained him - couldn't he have seen the signs? Why did no-one notice Natasha's downfall before it was too late and why did no one ever try to properly prepare for Energize (Black Dawn, yes - but that seemed like a "if all else fails" kind of thing)- it's good to see this kind of conversation because The Bujin isn't necessarily wrong. I also LOVE how Shell brings it home in that final panel - he's promising that is not what happens and I think it really makes his character shine.....