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Rich at 7:18PM, March 20, 2007
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According to the news Mr.Miller is going to be making another movie based (loosly at least) on Greek Myths.

YES! That will be made of win and awesome, guarenteed.
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subcultured at 7:24PM, March 20, 2007
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but i think miller is directing a movie about will eisner's “the spirit”
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Priceman at 4:27PM, March 23, 2007
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There are two ways to look at this movie…

A: What the fuck? This is no way close to accurate and glorifies some of history's biggest assholes as heroes. WTF were they thinking? And where is the plot?

or

B: HOLY FUCK! Dudes killing shit violently for two hours! Epic win! AND LOOK! TITS! This movie fucking rules!

You are in either crowd A or crowd B, or so it seems anyways.

*cough* B crowd *cough*

Can't compete with violence and sex. You just can't.
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ozoneocean at 4:50PM, March 23, 2007
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SO you prefer B movies? lol!
 
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reconjsh at 11:56PM, March 23, 2007
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The movie isn't just T&A, blood, and testosterone though… there's plenty of that, but there's more too.

It's a well told, well conceived twist on the original myth… albeit simple in plot; it's gorgeous and both a cinemotography triumph and digital editing/CGI masterpiece; and the narration/storytelling is simply outstanding.

If you're a fan of comic books, it's tough not to be a fan of this movie. It's larger than life - a comic book trait I enjoy very much.

Be ready to be mentally and physically drained at the end of 300 though. There's so much visual awesomeness, compelling cinematography, and clever writing that your brain gets put on pause for an hour or two.

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Hawk at 1:09PM, March 25, 2007
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I enjoyed 300, but I left the theater a bit disappointed. The movie felt unresolved. Sure, the action was great and I got mooned by a Spartan (apparently that's quite an honor) but the overlying theme of the movie seemed to be “dying with honor”… I've seen that enough already in films like Gladiator, Hero, and Braveheart.

It didn't seem like a good way to end the movie. I wish they'd made the movie about 20 minutes longer and finished the war. I wanted to see that enourmous human pin-cushion finished off. As it stands, I have to simply assume they eventually won.
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subcultured at 1:26PM, March 25, 2007
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the war is pretty long and involved. it would have taken them 2 more hours to tell. besides the movie is about the 300 spartans, not the persian war.

it just proved that 300 spartan warriors helped to keep the persian army at bay while reinforcements were being gathered
J
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reconjsh at 2:12PM, March 25, 2007
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When they said “they saw what 300 did to them… now let's see what 10,000 can do” or something like that… i assumed the war would be won.
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subcultured at 2:51PM, March 25, 2007
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i think if you condensed these events in 10 minutes in the end it would do the whole persian war injustice. it would make the persian army a really stupid and inept enemy and not a empire conquering nation.

from wiki:
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Dismissing the rest of the army, King Leonidas stayed behind with 300 Spartans and 700 Thespian volunteers. The Persians succeeded in taking the pass but sustained heavy losses, extremely disproportionate to those of the Greeks. The fierce resistance of the Spartan-led army offered Athens the invaluable time to prepare for a decisive naval battle that would come to determine the outcome of the war. The subsequent Greek victory at the Battle of Salamis left much of the Persian Empire's navy destroyed and Xerxes I was forced to retreat back to Asia, leaving his army in Greece under Mardonius, who was to meet the Greeks in battle one last time. The Spartans assembled at full strength and led a pan-Greek army that defeated the Persians decisively at the Battle of Plataea, ending the Greco-Persian War and with it the expansion of the Persian Empire into Europe.

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The simultaneous naval Battle of Artemisium was a stalemate, whereupon the Athenian navy retreated. The Persians were now in control of the Aegean Sea and all of peninsular Greece as far south as Attica. The Spartans prepared to defend the Isthmus of Corinth and the Peloponnese, while Xerxes I sacked an evacuated city of Athens, whose inhabitants had already fled to Salamis Island. In September, the Greeks defeated the Persians at the naval Battle of Salamis, which led to the rapid retreat of Xerxes I. The remaining Persian army, left under the charge of Mardonius, was defeated in the Battle of Plataea by a combined Greek army again led by the Spartans, under the regent Pausanias
J
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Hawk at 3:22PM, March 25, 2007
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Come on, can you guys fault me for wanting to see the rest of the persian war?
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subcultured at 3:27PM, March 25, 2007
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haha then see 300's sequel, which i think is th rest of the persian war..i think that is in development
J
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Hawk at 4:31PM, March 25, 2007
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then see 300's sequel

SCORE! Suddenly the movie has taken a positive turn for me. I like closure.
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ccs1989 at 1:51PM, March 26, 2007
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Hahaha. What would a 300 sequel be called, anway? 600? 300 + 2? 300x2 (also 600?) 300 Squared? Or maybe “The Persians Own The Spartans”.
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subcultured at 2:04PM, March 26, 2007
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i would say it would be called “spartans” since they were the deciding factor of defeating the persians
J
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ozoneocean at 3:02PM, March 26, 2007
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I'm with the Persians lol!
 
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ccs1989 at 4:44PM, March 26, 2007
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I dunno, I'd think the next movie, if there is one, would concentrate on the Athenians, because it was their Navy that allowed the Greeks to triumph at Salamis.

Anyway in the end the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta screws all of Greece over.
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Beaums at 5:37PM, March 28, 2007
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I saw it last night, and basically enjoyed the crap out of it. It was truly a cinematic splendor. Every shot was just so artistic. The Persian messengers riding in at the start, the tree of death, the Persian warriors falling off the cliff, the temple of the priests, King Xerxes' moving palace, it was all awe-inspiring. I like the fact how the movie was taken right out of the book. All of the shots so closely resemble the panels in the graphic novel. I liked the acting too, and I really don't understand what some of the critics have been saying. Spartans aren't supposed to be all emotional and soulful, they lay down cans of whoop-ass without a moments hesitation. That's what they do best. And the fight scenes, ah my gah the fight scenes. King Leonidas hacking his way through hoardes of Persians as the camera switched from fast to slow motion blew my mind. And the gore wasn't REALLY excessive. It just spurted everywhere. If we saw the blood pooling all over the floor and guts hanging out, THAT would be gory.

I hear what you guys are saying about the movie's plot, but I don't think 300 completely lacked it. The story was there, it just didn't make its presence known.

Basically, King Xerxes wants the submission of the Spartans. King Leonidas get pissed, so he consults the priests and the Oracle asking if he can go to war against the Persians. They say no, so he pretends to go out on a little “walk” with 300 of his Spartan bodyguards. All 300 of them have already had their first born son, so there will be some one to carry on their name even after they die. Leonidas knows he can't achieve victory against the Persians, so he makes the first stand and makes “the ‘God King’ bleed”. Once the elders of Sparta see the amount of traitors within their society, they decide to send the full force of Sparta and finish off the rest of the Persians. 'Nuff said.

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Priceman at 11:42PM, April 14, 2007
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SO you prefer B movies? lol!


Nah, just movies with pointless violence and sexy chicks. I've seen true “B movies”, and trust me, alot of them made me want to chop off my “dingleberrys” just so i'd have something a little less painful to concentrate on.

Oh yea, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHEUU7a02M
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rengori at 12:39AM, April 15, 2007
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHEUU7a02M
SCISSOR!
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mlai at 8:52AM, April 16, 2007
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A sequel about the rest of the war with the Persians?

Cheers for stupid money-milking sequels for close-ended stories which need no sequels.

Granted the war followed the skirmish at the pass, but Miller didn't draw 300 because he wanted to tell the story of the entire war.

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subcultured at 10:49AM, April 16, 2007
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it's miller's idea to create a sequel, and not the studio

lol NSFW

J
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Rich at 12:13PM, April 16, 2007
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South park video clip

That is one of the best parodies that South Park has done in ages. 300 just lends itself so well to jokes.
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mlai at 3:35PM, April 16, 2007
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Huh, a direct-to-movies movie? Not a comics-to-movie? Should be new for him.

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Priceman at 10:56PM, April 17, 2007
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God bless geeks like us with nothing better to do.

From VGcats

Also, check this one out. It resized funny when I loaded it here.
http://www.pvponline.com/article/3263/fri-apr-13
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subcultured at 12:03AM, April 18, 2007
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Huh, a direct-to-movies movie? Not a comics-to-movie? Should be new for him.

miller is also planning to direct a movie based on eisner's “spirit”
J
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marine at 4:41PM, April 26, 2007
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I loved it. It was epic, as only a good comic book movie could be. I love how talking heads and pundits tried to make it relevant to current issues, but Snyder said in an interview it had nothing to do with anything other than the 300 spartans. Frank Miller also commented on it.

Looks like Frank Miller's finally getting good movies. Batman Year One wasn't so bad, Sin City ruled ass, and now 300's a near perfect epic action film. Truly he must be feeling awesome.

But he really needs to finish up his god damn batman comics.
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SpANG at 7:38PM, July 28, 2007
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*necroposts*

You know, I never saw this movie when it was out, but I just saw a commercial for the DVD just now and felt the need to comment.

I have to laugh though, because I heard how “manly” this movie was. Truthfully, the Spartans may have been “manlier” than you think.

History notes that they (and many other ancient societies) actually were involved in a gay culture. The idea was that the men would fight harder along side each other if they are intimately involved. As a matter of fact, women were considered “lesser” and the society would openly ostracize men that wanted to be “straight”.

Also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_pederasty

Like I said, I didn't see the movie. But considering the public reaction to this movie, I highly doubt they touched on that. Heh. Hollywood re-writes history again! ;)
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fern at 7:45PM, July 28, 2007
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History notes that they (and many other ancient societies) actually were involved in a gay culture. The idea was that the men would fight harder along side each other if they are intimately involved. As a matter of fact, women were considered “lesser” and the society would openly ostracize men that wanted to be “straight”.

My History professor lectured for 20 minutes just on the Spartan society. Very intriguing if I might say…
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Bekefel at 9:16PM, July 28, 2007
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Sounds like Terminals kind of society.
Please, please, you give me too little credit.
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Cthulhu at 4:20AM, July 29, 2007
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I have to laugh though, because I heard how “manly” this movie was. Truthfully, the Spartans may have been “manlier” than you think.

History notes that they (and many other ancient societies) actually were involved in a gay culture. The idea was that the men would fight harder along side each other if they are intimately involved. As a matter of fact, women were considered “lesser” and the society would openly ostracize men that wanted to be “straight”.
How does being gay make you “manlier”???

Is this guy gay?

No.

Is this guy gay?

He's more flaming than a bonfire.

Now tell me. Which one is “manlier”?
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