Orin J Master
qqqi believe you are greatly misunderstanding what “computer” means. it's a machine for adding numbers. we've just made very complex program that it translated into the graphical user interface you associate with your computer's operation. the human mind is something entirely different.
ozoneoceanAren't all humans? Central nervous system is pretty much a swarm automaton with extensive capabilities to adjust and even rewire its own hardware.
qqqI didn't say that. Are you saying that you're a computer?
Discussion is a conversation now?
What is this ‘mind’ you speak of? Last time I checked, that was just a metaphysical spiritual thing that had no place in science and is ill-defined and not even proven to exist. Humans just claim they have a mind and self-awareness each for themselves but can not prove others have them, and cannot prove they themselves have them.
What is shown to exist is the central nervous system which is the computer that handles the automation, and autonomics of the human body, and that indeed is a computer, though a highly advanced computer that can rewrite its own software and even rewrite its own hardware to adapt.
I don't think you understand what a computer is, a computer is essentially a machine that carries out instructions to translates input to output, often by means of the laws of physics, like my notebook I type this on, and indeed on a far more advanced level the swarm intelligence of the neurons that compose it. There is currently no scientific indication that ‘minds’ would exist, it's Ockam's razor, the current model does not require minds to exist or humans to be ‘self aware’ or having some form of ‘perception’, assuming that they do answers no quaestions and only raises more thus for the time being there is no reason to assume humans are self-aware. Sure, they claim it all the time that they have things like ‘feelings’ or ‘thoughts’ but that can just be explained by that their central nervous system instructs them to say that to enhance their survival. After all, if a stone has written on it ‘I am self-aware’ does that make the stone so?
Interestingly, this anime film centres around the the philosophical quaestion that as a much as a machine can claim to be self aware to protect itself as programmed to find a way to praeserve itself, indeed the same can be said about humans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-WUQg-_oow
That excerpt is quite an interesting debate on that.