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Anime Cliches. Bad ones?
ozoneocean at 9:11AM, April 24, 2010
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I can't recall if this topic has been up before, but if it has, I dun see it and it's about time it returned.

What do you hate getting recycled in anime?

Two things I hate the most-

1, Dragon Ball Z did his a lot but many other crap animes did it too:
-When some character gets beaten up a lot, they suddenly smirk, then laugh, and then laugh and laugh and laugh… And then say “You still don't get it, do you?”.
Jebus effing christo! That's enough to make you wanna stop watching anime for life. -_-

2. This happens at least once in most animes not meant for children and some that are:
-A weirdo violent person, usually a man, sticks out his great long slavering tongue and slowley licks it along the edge of a knife while looking at some intimidated female.
It makes you want to take that knife away from them, grab their tongue, pull it out and use the knife to cut it off.


I can think of other things, but those two are the absolute worst.
 
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Product Placement at 10:46AM, April 24, 2010
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“You still don't get it, do you?”.
Get what? I'm obviously the stronger one! My power lever is over 100.000.

… That's over 9000. Sorry. It had to be done.

How about those silly moments when the hero is fighting the big baddy and all of a sudden we jump over to the hero's best friend/lover/mother/all of the above who's currently working on a rose bed or sitting in the living room, thinking supportive thoughts towards the hero.

“Oh, I hope he's doing OK. I have faith in him.”

*Cue the hero falling down on the ground, after having his ass handed to him.*
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Hawk at 3:26PM, April 24, 2010
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How about when one person is talking to the other, but one of them can't be bothered to look at the other person. He just stares off into the horizon as he talks, with his back turned to the other person. Nobody faces each other in an anime unless they're fighting! Rude AND pretentious!
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Air Raid Robertson at 5:43PM, April 24, 2010
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One of my favorites is the “evil glasses glint”. You immediately know that a character is up to no good if his spectacles shimmer under a passing light source.

Actually, this one is common in live action Japanese cinema as well. It's in a ton of anime though.

Another one is the frequency in which kung-fu heroes deflect bullets with their swords. I think they even did a segment on Mythbusters over this. Apparently a katana can take two bullets from a common handgun before it shatters. So, apparently it's sort of plausible. (Still not terribly likely)
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Product Placement at 6:08PM, April 24, 2010
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Nobody faces each other in an anime unless they're fighting!
Well… let's just put it like this.

Would you like to make eye contact with someone, unless you absolutely had to, with eyes like that?

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therealtj at 8:03PM, April 24, 2010
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Kill it. With fire.

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ozoneocean at 8:55PM, April 24, 2010
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Well… let's just put it like this.

Would you like to make eye contact with someone, unless you absolutely had to, with eyes like that?
The other thing about anime faces is that their noses are minute. ;)

Because this girl has started the large painted eyes so far above the top level of her own, it make her ordinary length human nose look elephantine.
So it one respect: Big anime success!
But overall: big anime fail :(

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I like the anime cliches we're coming up with now! :)
I was thinking that it'd be hilarious if one character did ALL of them all by themselves… But then I realised that actually happens pretty often and it's not funny at all, just sad. -_-
 
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Eunice P at 10:00PM, April 24, 2010
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Although anime cliches are bad, anime making fun of stereotypes are just as bad.
One anime I know that is known making fun of stereotypes is Hetalia Axis Powers:
http://www.animecrazy.net/hetalia-axis-powers-episode-14
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Mr Kaos at 3:19AM, April 25, 2010
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Well i don't think my problem is a big thing.
Just a gender problem. Did you ever get confused about villians' gender sometimes? “hm… she sure is a tough one that girl.. uh?” *gets told that She is a HE!* “b-but… his eyes and lips don't look like a guy.”

I remember that i did watch Pokemon for long long time ago. i did see the rocket team. James. i did thought he was a woman for a while.. untill i read his profile.. which did confuse me alot because i did see him dress like a woman.. and uh.. having breasts.

It did annoy me for a while they do that in the anime. no wonder i prefer the manga. alot easier to see which gender they are in the mangas. heh.
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EssayBee at 5:39AM, April 25, 2010
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I hate all the animation cheats. You know . . . where minutes go by with nothing more than a pan across a background or a pan across a character's face with them talking in voice over. Then, when a character actually speaks, the “animation” is a static face with 2 or 3 cels of different mouth shapes to make the lips move. This is one of the reasons I have problems watching Naruto. Of the very few episodes I've seen, I swear they only drew maybe a hundred cels of actual animation, a few dozen mouth movements (for those static faces), and a few backgrounds to pan over, and that made up over half of the episode. It's very distracting when you notice it. I found myself watching for actual animation and laughing at all the cheats instead of being able to enjoy the story.
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ozoneocean at 6:13AM, April 25, 2010
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Although anime cliches are bad, anime making fun of stereotypes are just as bad.
One anime I know that is known making fun of stereotypes is Hetalia Axis Powers:
http://www.animecrazy.net/hetalia-axis-powers-episode-14
Vid's not working for me :(
EssayBee
I hate all the animation cheats
That's not so much a cliche though, is it?

Along those lines- something that IS a cliche and an animation shortcut is the still shot of the powerlines!, accompanied by the sound of cicadas or the buzzing of those lines.
Many, many animes use that- either a static still or a pan off a still.
I don't think it's a “bad” cliche though, I don't really mind it, it's just something they seem to like to do for certain transition shots.
 
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Eunice P at 6:34AM, April 25, 2010
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Vid's not working for me :(

It's working, it just takes almost a minute to load the video functions actually.
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EssayBee at 9:13AM, April 25, 2010
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Along those lines- something that IS a cliche and an animation shortcut is the still shot of the powerlines!, accompanied by the sound of cicadas or the buzzing of those lines.
Many, many animes use that- either a static still or a pan off a still.
I don't think it's a “bad” cliche though, I don't really mind it, it's just something they seem to like to do for certain transition shots.

The powerlines don't bother me so much. Most of the animes I've seen that use this, it's during a hot, lazy summertime conversation, and the shot, during dialogue, conveys that lazy, wistful attitude of the characters–it's almost like a POV shot of the characters just gazing off and daydreaming as they talk. But, yeah, I'm sure it is a kind of cheat, but at least the dialogue isn't padding like the stuff I was talking about–the cliche inner monologue as the camera just pans over a character's face. You know, the sort of, “This opponent is much stronger than anyone I've ever fought before. I could do X sort of attack, but blah blah blah.” I guess you could argue that it's to show a character's strategy in battle, but it just feels like filler to me and kills to pacing and drama of pretty much every scene in which it's employed.
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Product Placement at 11:41AM, April 25, 2010
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I guess I could make another nit pick. Nonsensical super powers in situations that honestly don't merit such powers.

Anyone seen Top Striker? It was pretty popular in Europe when I was a kid. Apparently soccer players can develop super kicks.



That last one was called “The Eagle shot”.

P.S. How do you kick a ball so it becomes an optical illusion?
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ozoneocean at 8:38PM, April 25, 2010
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It's working, it just takes almost a minute to load the video functions actually.
It wasn't loading at all, but I finally got one of the other mirrors to work. That show was very, very strange o_O
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That last one was called “The Eagle shot”.
Wasn't that just a bicycle kick with an eagle added on?
You're right. Weird!
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P.S. How do you kick a ball so it becomes an optical illusion?
You have to kick it really, really, really hard!
 
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Product Placement at 9:03PM, April 25, 2010
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That last one was called “The Eagle shot”.
Wasn't that just a bicycle kick with an eagle added on?
Oh, but it was so much more. You see, the shot had the special properties that it appeared to be flying over the goal but at the last possible minute, it took a 90° curve and dove like an eagle into the goal, thus confusing the goalie. Here's another example of his shot.
ozoneocean
You're right. Weird!
Yeah… pretty much that.
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Eunice P at 2:43AM, April 26, 2010
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It wasn't loading at all, but I finally got one of the other mirrors to work. That show was very, very strange o_O

Ah, ok. Basically each characters is the representative of the countries' historical events during WW1 and WW2. It also stereotypes the attitudes of the citizens in each countries.

Say, when Germany captured Italy during the war, the animation is presented with a guy named Germany capturing a guy named Italy. But the Italian soldiers were known to be good at fleeing during war. The animators exaggerated the event on how easily Italians fled when German troops were not noticing.

And during the war, German spies were sent to France, some of them were captured. The animation depicting a guy named Germany disguising himself to prevent a guy named France from capturing him. He dined at a French restaurant but was easily identified by France due to his “German” habit of making noises on the dining plate.
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Product Placement at 7:47AM, April 26, 2010
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I liked the part where Germany and Austria were standing in a line.
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same at 2:02PM, April 26, 2010
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Loli. It ruined something i thought was amazing for a couple of episodes lol!

also

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Anyone seen Top Striker?

I saw this in spain on holiday a few years back. I wondered what the fuck was going on. And i love the way the tiger comes out of nowhere and doesnt even manage to represent any metaphor but just follows the ball.
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Product Placement at 4:19PM, April 26, 2010
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Yeah. What I love is the fact that these three guys were once enemies, since they were all the leading strikers of opposing teams, in the junior league. Once the Eagle kicker and his team of merry men kicked their asses, they joined forces to form a national team (or something like that). Despite the fact that they had these 3 phenomenally talented players, they still managed to struggle through every game, barely winning them. Every game started with the other team mopping the floor with them, usually until the score was around 2-0 or 3-0. Then the good guys managed to figure out what the other team was doing and turn the tables. Game always ended by them scoring the winning goal at the very last second. Oh yeah and each game could take around 3 episode (with the exception of the championship games. Those took at least 5). Heh. I remember an episode that revolved solely around the main character running across the field, once, so that he could score a goal. I'm being dead serious.

As you could tell, all the big players had their signature strikes which made them devastating opponents. That tiger kick functioned like a juggernaut. Once it started, you couldn't stop the damn thing. I swear to god, I once saw an episode where 4, counting 4 players, managed to aligned themselves between the goal and the ball. When that guy kicked his super kick, it plowed itself through the team into the waiting arms of the goal keeper. He managed to grab the ball but WAS GRADUALLY PUSHED INTO THE GOAL!

Now THAT'S kicking a ball really, really, really hard, Oz!

P.S. I'm curious to know how many kids who watched this show, tried to develop their own super kick.
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isukun at 7:49PM, April 26, 2010
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Another one is the frequency in which kung-fu heroes deflect bullets with their swords.

That seems to pop up a lot in Western media and comics as well, so I'm not sure I would classify it as an “anime cliche” so much as a general action cliche. In fact, I think we were doing it long before they were.
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ozoneocean at 8:28PM, April 26, 2010
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Now THAT'S kicking a ball really, really, really hard, Oz!
I think their specialist kicking technique compresses the matter in the ball so fiercely that it actually bends space and time around itself. That's what causes the apparent slow motion and the massive force. The animal creatures are probably caused by the ball temporarily breaking through into other dimensions…



lol!

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What do you think about the slow motion final kill scenes…
I mean when two fighters, usually swordsmen (but it could be any two fighters), face off and then suddenly rush towards each other… There's a sound effect and then they're both facing the other direction, totally still. Then one of them has a facial expression of some kind- a grin, or a look of shock or something, then his head falls off, or his shoulder, or his torso or some other dramatic indication of an initially unseen but ultimately devastating injury.
- That's another one that I don't think is necessarily a bad cliche… it's a… I dunno? A classic scene?
I just don't know what you'd call it.
 
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Product Placement at 9:48PM, April 26, 2010
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What do you think about the slow motion final kill scenes…
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Lonnehart at 4:08PM, April 28, 2010
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That must be one really hard or durable ball if you can kick it hard enough to spin at the speed of light…

And what does one have to say about those girls in anime whose clothes seem to be glued to them? You'd think they'd fall off especially if they're shredded…

And then there's the giant robot. Voltron is the main offender for me here. See giant robeast, they all combine instead of using their individual units abilities effectively. I guess all problems could be solved if you have enough firepower to back you up…

I'll bet at least one webcomic DDer artist has a special technique that will allow him to draw an entire story arc of their webcomic in mere seconds…
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GracehFaceh at 5:12PM, April 28, 2010
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I always hated when a character said something funny or weird and subsequently, another character falls on the ground. Or their face freezes and their head starts sliding off their neck. Or they just do that awkward, half hearted laugh while a sweat drop running down a weird part of their body. Japanese animations, how quaint!

Eunice P
Although anime cliches are bad, anime making fun of stereotypes are just as bad.
One anime I know that is known making fun of stereotypes is Hetalia Axis Powers:
http://www.animecrazy.net/hetalia-axis-powers-episode-14

What. What.

What am I watching.
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alwinbot at 8:37PM, April 28, 2010
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I bet those kids are actually just cyborgs with quantum jet engine fused to their legs in order to fracture time and space.

The ball fucking teleported through two kids who were levitating in midair.

It only gets better from there!
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Sariling Mundo at 7:20AM, April 29, 2010
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I can't get over the fact that death means nothing in Dragon Ball. Dying is basically a change of address and a free halo.
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The Intrepid TORPEDO! - T+

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isukun at 8:16AM, April 29, 2010
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Japanese animations, how quaint!

A lot of what you said just seems more like forms of expression in anime than actual cliches. Western animators have several they pull off, as well.
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AQua_ng at 1:33PM, May 3, 2010
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Not really cliches per say, but I really don't like how predictable the shoujo genre has become in anime. One tsundere, one very pretty jerk with a heart of gold, mix it up and HOHO GET READY FOR SOME SHENANIGANS AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS. The last one I really enjoyed was Kimi Ni Todoke, but mostly because of its purity.

I also dislike explaining your attacks during battle in a lot of shounen anime. I can't remember the last shounen I enjoyed that didn't have this. It's just filling up time and evidence that the author can't subtly inform the readers in a well integrated manner. The Lucifer And Biscuit Hammer was good at subverting this however.

I can't remember the last time I saw a big ol' sweatdrop.

Screw it, everybody should just watch Durarara!!


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ImaginaryGirl at 2:53PM, May 4, 2010
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Hmmm. Harem anime.
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