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Any Furries here?
Calbeck at 9:08AM, Feb. 9, 2008
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Been Furry since the late ‘80s, just a few years after it coalesced into an actual fandom.

It’s nothing more or less than an appreciation of “funny-animal” content in media. That Drunk Duck mascot up there? Furries will tend to think he's cool and an interesting character more often than a non-Furry. That's really it in a nutshell.

It's also a completely uncontrolled fandom with no limits on genre, content or rating.

Compare this to Trek and Comic fandoms, for example — they all revolve around pre-existing content. Fans create their own content, but it's all ultimately based off someone else's professional work. Anime and Manga fans have more leeway to develop their own original material, but the bulk of them prefer something that either came from or is based on a professional work.

Furries break this mold by not only creating their own wholly original works, but by accepting fannish works as being just as valid — or even more so — as those created by a professional.

Here, personal creativity rules the roost.

Which means that just like the rest of the Internet, you're going to have to put up with the occasional person who gets creative in ways that make you want to scrub your brain with bleach.
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zaneeba_slave at 9:14AM, Feb. 9, 2008
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Uh… I read an animal porn comic a while ago. Some guy stuck his penis into a cat's vajay-jay. I threw up a little in my mouth.

It was wierd.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
I like to imagine myself as a goblin in a tuxedo. -Zaneeba_slave
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The letter E at 2:24PM, Feb. 9, 2008
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DO NOT WANT! to use an good old internet expression.

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Lokidoll at 10:31PM, Feb. 9, 2008
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I am personally not a Furry but have some furry friends. I think it's sad that furries good such a bad rap. Many seem to believe that because you're into furries/are a furry that you're automatically a pervert or something. Which is BS. MANY are like that. But doesn't mean all of them are.
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Custard Trout at 11:09AM, Feb. 11, 2008
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Calbeck
Here, personal creativity rules the roost.

Bullshit.

I first learned what a furry was when a friend showed me a forum. There was a story on there, it was truly marvellous, beautiful. I actually registered an account to tell the writer to get it published. Everybody else complained because it had ‘hyoomans’ in it, or there was no ‘yiffing’.

The thing is, furries call people who aren't furries ‘mundanes’, therefore implying they are better than people who aren't furries. Every other furry story I've read with humans in it is about how evil and self centred and mean humans are (they never see the irony). Every ‘fursona’ has a closet full of black trenchcoats and is coincidentally just like the guy who made it only somehow impossibly muscular and implausibly athletic and has a huge penis instead of the smelly, cheeto covered retard he really is. I've seen some blood boiling stuff from furries, and I can't forget it.

The porn doesn't bother me, you can fap off to whatever you like, as long as you don't tell me about it afterwards. It's just the attitude the majority have really pisses me off on some primal level.

I do have friends who are furries, and I love and respect them dearly. That still doesn't doesn't change the way I feel.
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mlai at 3:23PM, Feb. 11, 2008
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That's like saying 4chan represents all consumers of anime and manga.

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zaneeba_slave at 5:55PM, Feb. 11, 2008
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I have a sexual fixation with my finger.
I like to imagine myself as a goblin in a tuxedo. -Zaneeba_slave
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Calbeck at 7:15PM, Feb. 12, 2008
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Calbeck
Here, personal creativity rules the roost.
Bullshit.

Not into scat, thanks. But whatever trips yer trigger I guess…

Here's what I like about your rant, though: with minor editing, you can apply it to gamers, mangafans, SCAdians, Trekkies…it's amazing how generic your problems with furries are.
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zaneeba_slave at 8:40PM, Feb. 12, 2008
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Is Furries like Purgatory Tower? Like cat-people and squirrel-people?

If so, then furries are fine with me.

If furries are comics that have someting to do with some guy having a threesome with a cow and a badger, then I dont like furries too much…
I like to imagine myself as a goblin in a tuxedo. -Zaneeba_slave
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The letter E at 4:17PM, Feb. 13, 2008
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Is Furries like Purgatory Tower? Like cat-people and squirrel-people?

If so, then furries are fine with me.

A little of this, often exceptionaly good.

zaneeba_slave
If furries are comics that have someting to do with some guy having a threesome with a cow and a badger, then I dont like furries too much…

Lots of this, not so good.


I have nothing against furries, I just hate it that some people goes all “GTFO furfag” because I draw anthro.
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horseboy at 11:00PM, Feb. 16, 2008
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Hmm, guess I should say something here. I chose anthro art because 1) It's easier for me to draw. and 2) I wanted to deal with “real world” issues without dealing with “real world” stereotypes. I'd say at least half of the web comics I read are along the lines of Suburban Jungle, Tales of the Questor and Kevin and Kell. When I was younger, did I have something of an “unhealthy” fascination with Gadget? Well, she was smart, cute and just naive enough to be the right shade of Moe. Course, I thought the same thing about Willow the first few season of Buffy too. My cousin is a sun dancer and we spend a lot of time discussing relevant esoteric philosophy. Am I a furry? I don't know, I've never really cared enough about the title to think about it.
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The letter E at 2:30AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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Now that I think about it…most comics I read are anthro or marketed as furry, I draw anthro and has lots of online friends who are furries…Maybe I am a closet furry D:
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Calbeck at 5:32AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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Ya poor bastid. -:)
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The letter E at 5:39AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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Noes D:
Not that I really mind.
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Priest_Revan at 9:35AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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Haha, wow, you bloody furries are weird.
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SpANG at 10:34AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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Role-playing isn't a bad thing. If you feel a spiritual connection to an animal, that's fine too. Dressing up is just dandy. But the people that cannot draw the line between reality and the fantasy- well those people are the weirdos.

Like the difference between a Star Trek fan and someone that actually believes that they are a Captain in Star Fleet.

Oh, and I know this isn't what you meant Aurora, but it struck me funny that you wrote it. ;)
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… However, I am friends with people who consider themselves to be furriers, and I can certainly appreciate the artistic aspect of it.
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Aurora Moon at 11:54AM, Feb. 20, 2008
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lol. I didn't catch that typo.

But yeah, SpaNG hit the nail on the head.

That was what I was rambling about in my first post. Some people don't get that the majority of star trek or Star wars fans are actually just regular people who happened to like the series. They actually think that the majority are nerds who would dress up and go to convenitions (nothing wrong with that, of course). And that they would live and breathe Star trek/Star wars everyday to the point of obbession (that's when it goes too far).

I conidser myself a star trek fan–I've watched every epodise of the orignal series, TNG, Voyager, DS9 and enterpise. In fact I like everything about it. But I'm not going to go out everyday dressed in an starfleet uniform. Or learn how to speak Vulcan, No matter how much I find Vulcans to be sexy. (I think it's the pointy ears). I might draw or write some fanfiction or fanart, but that's about it.

In that same aspect, some furries were people who grew up or simply liked Antro cartoons and games such as Sonic, Disney's robin hood with that fox, and or Star fox. You get the idea. They're just normal people who's into an fandom.
And some of them might be intersted in it snice they feel a connection to animals, and so is into the idea of humaniod animals and write non-erotic stories or draw art based around them.

like the fringe minority of trekkies who would dress up like a vulcan everyday and believe he/she is one, furries who are into erotic stories and art of animals are far and few. Even though when that type gather in one spot, it does seem like a lot.
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The letter E at 1:54AM, Feb. 21, 2008
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I may be a closet furry, but I wouldn´t dress up in a costume or claim that I have an animal spirit…
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StaceyMontgomery at 4:52AM, Feb. 21, 2008
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I'm not a furry, but I admire furries and star trek fans and others who “take it too far.” I mean, I can't see myself dressing up in a federation uniform or learning klingon or dressing like a badger.

But honestly, all the furries and klingons I have met were having an awful lot of fun.

I say, if you find the thing that makes you happy, don't be afraid to jump in head first.

But then, I would say something like that - I draw a daily webcomic! That's at least as eccentric as thinking I have an animal spirit…
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ozoneocean at 7:07AM, Feb. 21, 2008
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…I like the fury bits on the ladies… :)
Eh, Stacy's right, those Furies and Trekies who put on the costumes and do their thing in public and pretty brave! Nothing to be despised there. It's not for me, but I admire their guts… Like the time when I saw this fat old man transvestite.
- Well, his gut was completely on display actually, and not all that admirable in all seriousness, but the metaphorical guts it took to dress up like that and walk around a busy shopping area were impressive!
 
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SpANG at 10:15AM, Feb. 21, 2008
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…I like the fury bits on the ladies… :)
Eh, Stacy's right, those Furies and Trekies who put on the costumes and do their thing in public and pretty brave! Nothing to be despised there. It's not for me, but I admire their guts… Like the time when I saw this fat old man transvestite.
I'm not talking about the ‘brave’ ones. I am talking about people that are displaced from reality. Of course, on the surface, they seem the same. Barbara Adams became infamous when she wore her star fleet “uniform” to court as a jury member. When asked why she said:
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You can put on a uniform for football year-round, nobody cares. Basketball year-round, nobody cares. Put on a Star Trek uniform, people get a case of the giggles.

I don't want my officers to ever feel ashamed to wear their uniform. And…so, I went to a civic duty. What we do is community service. I was performing my civic duty. I wore my uniform, just as any other officer in the military would wear theirs.
That is displaced form reality. And there are lots of people out there like that. Trekies, furries, whatever.
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StaceyMontgomery at 10:43AM, Feb. 21, 2008
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Yeah, but if Barbara Adams had insisted on wearing some habit or headscarf or other uniform that she said God wanted her to wear, she would have been just as displaced from reality, but she would have been treated differently.

I just think that furries and trekkies get picked on for things that all kinds of folks get a pass on. Saying you have an “animal nature” is no stranger to me than saying that you're “born again” or “saved” or whatever. I had a conversation with a guy the other day who was “proud to be an American.” He was SO proud, and SO wildly insistent about it, that he seemed to me to have fetishized his pride - it didn't feel real to me, it was like a costume he was wearing.

But who am I to judge his Pride? Or to judge a furry's badger suit? Or anyone's religion?

I assume that if you dug deep enough, everyone would look crazy to everyone else. I know I would.

So I say - treat everyone with respect and dignity - we are equally crazy. I've never met anyone who deserved to be looked down on.
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The letter E at 2:20AM, Feb. 22, 2008
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I think those furries that agree to appear in biased documentarys and claim (while in a costume) to be werewolves are more naive then brave…
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ozoneocean at 6:23AM, Feb. 22, 2008
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I remember that funny chick in the Trekie uniform, that was hilarious. lol!
Jeebus I used to me a but more judgemental, I remember seeing a guy with a Treckie broach on once (many years ago), and thinking he was a crazy weirdo.

It's natural to despise nonconformity and difference. It's why we have the excesses of nationalism, racialism, religious hatred, etc.

Hey, what about those guys that walk around everywhere dressed as pirates? Much the same thing. Pirates are more lovable though. :)


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As for Stacy's analogy of religion, I can see where you're coming from, but it's not quite the same thing; people who do their weird different things because of religion are completely part of an external, established, cultural movement that already has historical roots of acceptance throughout society built in- even if there are still conflicts, people are more prepared to be understanding of that than the more socially aberrant practices that have arisen form recent pop-culture movements.
 
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SpANG at 9:34AM, Feb. 22, 2008
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Yeah, but if Barbara Adams had insisted on wearing some habit or headscarf or other uniform that she said God wanted her to wear, she would have been just as displaced from reality, but she would have been treated differently…
Good point, but when you talk about religion, you are talking about something that can't be proven either way. That's why there are 2 sides to the argument. Atheists don't believe in God because his existence can't be proven definitively. People of faith do not need proof.

Star Trek is a work of fiction, which is a documented fact. There is no dispute over this. But there is an actual military. So when Barbara Adams intermingles established facts in with her fantasy saying “I am just like any other officer of the military”. That is delusional and unhealthy. Now, I don't know if she meant it, but if she actually believes that, she's nuts.

But getting back to furries. The difference I am trying to point out is one person saying “my spirit animal is a raccoon, and I dress up like one occasionally” and someone saying, “I AM a raccoon.”.


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mapaghimagsik at 11:27AM, Feb. 22, 2008
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Wouldn't it be cool if all the Star Trek stories became a religion, just like Scientology, Mormonism, and Christianity? It would probably take a century or so…


It'd be really funny if it was the Kirk/Spock stories.

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Hawk at 3:27PM, Feb. 22, 2008
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That actually would be funny… and from some people I've talked to, it wouldn't have to be very far into the future.

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I remember that funny chick in the Trekie uniform, that was hilarious.
Jeebus I used to me a but more judgemental, I remember seeing a guy with a Treckie broach on once (many years ago), and thinking he was a crazy weirdo.

That reminds me of the time I was in a grocery store doing my shopping and I noticed a really cute girl. Then I looked to the side of her and saw her mom, who had prosthetic vulcan ears on and what I can only assume was a ceremonial robe. She may have actually been some kind of elf, I don't know. I guess if it was brave of the mom to be in public like that, it was possibly more brave of the daughter to be there with her.
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mapaghimagsik at 3:46PM, Feb. 22, 2008
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That reminds me of the time I was in a grocery store doing my shopping and I noticed a really cute girl. Then I looked to the side of her and saw her mom, who had prosthetic vulcan ears on and what I can only assume was a ceremonial robe. She may have actually been some kind of elf, I don't know. I guess if it was brave of the mom to be in public like that, it was possibly more brave of the daughter to be there with her.

I think it would have been really funny if the daughter said at checkout, “Prisoner Transfer from cellblock 1138…”
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Hawk at 9:56PM, Feb. 22, 2008
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I think it would have been really funny if the daughter said at checkout, “Prisoner Transfer from cellblock 1138…”

LOL!
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The letter E at 4:23AM, Feb. 25, 2008
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Wouldn't it be cool if all the Star Trek stories became a religion?

Nah, give it a couple of centuries, and ST will be fact ;)
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