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Anystar's Marker Art Class
Knuckles at 10:29AM, Dec. 4, 2006
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Mmm..to me, this looks like its been gone over with the blender a lot – or too much, really. The blender is best used sparingly, because of the way it tends to smudge and ‘bleach’ color. But it could just look washed out because of the scanning, as well. But I can see that you DO have a sense of where the darks and lights go - expand on that and use combine colors to form a better sense of depth and shade. While the blender can create different shades, the most vivid shading comes from color mixing. At least, that's my belief. Altho, I do understand you have a limited palette of colors to work with. Its good to see you experimenting and trying to find solutions using the materials you already have.

I was having problems with the blender. I had to color really hard just to make any shading show up I'll try again with this next homework and see what happens. I hope it's not the ink running out in my markers… I just bought them >_< Anyway, thank you for the crit ^^

For this next homework, do we still use the bristol board paper? or are we doing it on computer paper again?



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subcultured at 11:42AM, Dec. 4, 2006
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you make me want to color with markers now, anystar
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anystar at 2:43PM, Dec. 4, 2006
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For this next homework, do we still use the bristol board paper? or are we doing it on computer paper again?


Use the bristol board :3

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you make me want to color with markers now, anystar
You should try it :D
http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Door_in_the_Rock/ >> Fantasy Graphic Novel in Black and White :3
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anystar at 4:57PM, Dec. 10, 2006
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Homework from this past lesson! :3
Here is mine for reference


And here is Knuckles'

Wow! This looks pretty good :D I can definitely see improvements over your last piece. I like that you left white highlight spots for the skin. It looks a little odd in the hair, but that's just me. I always think darker hair should have darker highlights - just a personal preference. The gradient you used in the background, despite being a little blotchy, turned out very good! It'll get smoother over time, of course, and the gradient divisions will be less noticeable - just need to practice. However, I don't think your acryllic spattering (I think that's white acryllic/ink spattering at least) turned out quite so successful. It looks a little like you lost control of what you were doing. This will get easier the more times you do it as well. Were you useing the method of putting ink/paint on a brush (or pen) and blowing softly to get the spattered look, or were you setting down individial points of white? Sometime taking the time to go through and slowly add spots will gie better results, although it can end up LOOKING deliberate, which can be kinda blah/boring (especially when you want a grungy or ‘oldtyme’ look to your piece.)

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Here is shadowmyst's!

This looks excellent! Your blending and use of whites is very effective. I think the contrast in shades could be a little better, especially in the skin. But, the skin was probably washed out during the scanning process as well. In any case, this is a very strong piece! Wonderful work.

Any case.. :D that's all for now. I'm dealing with finals this week, then moving back home, but I'll try to post a lesson later in the week, if not there will be a new one by next monday.
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Knuckles at 9:14PM, Dec. 11, 2006
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LOL thanks for the crits. what can I say? traditional media is my weakness. I've had the acrylic paint since 1999, but it didn't dry up. I had to rub the paintbrush over a wired net in order to get any splattering done.

I've also noticed those markers run a LOT and I don't have to add much blender to it which meant I didn't have to color really hard. But this only seems to happen when I do very small pictures and detail. Not so much like the big picture I did for the last lesson…

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shadowmagi at 11:08AM, Dec. 15, 2006
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Since this is a big coloring tutorial for copic markers, just thought i'd share this guy's gallery with you:

http://toounit.deviantart.com/

His art is mindblowing, and he uses copics. And he happens to have a couple tutorials in his gallery, too!

*Psst*
….
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Knuckles at 11:02PM, Dec. 15, 2006
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That guy must be rich to afford all those Copics x_x

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anystar at 8:58AM, Dec. 16, 2006
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That guy must be rich to afford all those Copics x_x

He's a professional illustrator from what I can tell X3 I've been watching him for a while. He just came out with his first book of illustrations.
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ccs1989 at 7:28PM, Dec. 16, 2006
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Geez…and he's only 17. It's people like this that make me want to stop trying, because I know I'll never catch up.
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anystar at 5:44PM, Dec. 18, 2006
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Ok @_@ Some bad news. I won't be updating till after christmas. I've just had too much going on with redoing my bedroom, portfolio review things I have to complete for next semester of college, trying to get comic pages done to start a major piece of color art. However, I'd advise everyone to start brainstorming for ideas. The next piece is going to be large scale and involve watercolors for the background. Any case XD I'll try to come up with something as well.
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shadowmagi at 7:58PM, Dec. 19, 2006
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That guy must be rich to afford all those Copics x_x

He's a professional illustrator from what I can tell X3 I've been watching him for a while. He just came out with his first book of illustrations.

He's also accumulated them over a few years. Conventions are handy for getting sutff cheap, too, i hear ;)

*Psst*
….
(i like feedback~!)
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anystar at 3:49PM, Dec. 24, 2006
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ShadowMyst's late homework for the last lesson has been posted. :D Scroll up to the original homework post to see/read.
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anystar at 2:26AM, Jan. 2, 2007
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Final Lesson! Watercolors for backgrounds
Materials needed: clean, inked drawing. Markers, bristol board or watercolor paper; watercolors; brushes; white ink/pen/paint; mixing tray & water cup

Well, since I think I actually covered most of my shading/blending information in the previous parts of the class, this last lesson will be almost entirely concerning watercolors. Here is my drawing after I finished the basic markers:


The circle I also later filled in with markers, but not until after I finished the background. XD Anyways, here we go.

I alreayd had a pretty good idea of what I wanted in my background, so the first thing I did was lightly block in my scenery: a forresty clearing space. I used extremely watered down color, very VERY light, and blotted in my tree tops in with a medium sized round bristle brush. I like to dampen the tips of my brush and actually roll them into a slight point before I start painting. I also keep some paper towels near by so I could blot when I needed to. For watercolor painting, try to place or ‘sight’ where you want your whites to go FIRST. Because its very difficult to remove color, but easy to add color! Watercolors will get darker and blend easily with you add color over or to it. You can lift up color some by using a clean damp brush and swishing, or blotting with a paper towel (never WIPE because it'll tear up your paper. just blot getnly. add a teeny little water, then blot.) You should experiment on scrap paper before trying this. The best way not to mess up your drawing is to paint slowly and carefully.

In any case.. I didn't want my trees to be a traditional green color, so I chose a reddish tint to reflect the pink of the character's dress.Then I added in dark leaves and treetrunks. For the tree in the foreground, I used darker colors, and the ones in the back I used lighter ones to give an illusion of depth.


I also added in darker shades to the bark to fill it in and some purple shades to the leaves for depth.


After that, I started filling in the space around the trees. I painted a light pink into the background first, then went over with light and dark greens to produce bushes, grasses, etc. I also added a little purple to the light between the trees, and a little green to the bottom of the tree's leaves and bark. The last thing I added in was the brown of the ground/rocks.


I filled in the other side of the image pretty much the same way, then added in a (sort of) gradient to the sky, and tried to paint in some fluffy clouds (which failed hard, even worse in the scan than in real life)


In the end I chose a shade of blue to fill in the silvery swirl frame, and a darker shade of blue to draw in some thorn rose-pattern thing. I thought blue would be a good choice because it contrasted withthe green in th ebackgorund, but now I kidna regret it.XD I think it might have looked better with a different shade of blue, or a shade of green. Ah well! This is the first full watercolor background I've done in a very logn time, so I made it an experiment just to see what I could do :3 Which is what this class is all about.


Homework, due Friday, Jan 13th (just to give everyone plenty of leeway/warning):
A finished marker/watercolor combination piece. your use of watercolor does not have to be as elaborate as mine. Use all the techniques so far covered in the class, or the ones which will suit your piece best.
http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Door_in_the_Rock/ >> Fantasy Graphic Novel in Black and White :3
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