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Bad luck?
hpkomic at 10:15AM, March 14, 2006
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Does luck exist? Are we capable of having bad luck?

Or are we the makers of our fortunes and misfortunes?
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Terminal at 10:34AM, March 14, 2006
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Well, I think it's all imagination. You think you have bad luck, your going to have bad luck, It's the same in some people that recieve chain letters that say if you break it, you'll have bad luck, and think they have bad luck just by reading it, which will make them a bit nervous and do bad things, which would lead to thinking that they have bad luck. It's all in the brain. And your brain affects everything you do.

Well, that`s what I think.

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hpkomic at 10:44AM, March 14, 2006
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So you feel it's impossible for some external, unseen cosmic force to have influence over the odds of things happening to you, good or bad?
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ozoneocean at 10:54AM, March 14, 2006
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Yes, it's perfectly real. Luck is what we call probability really isn't it? Out of all the infinite things that can happen to you, with all the different probabilities, there are still some people who have more than their fair share of bad things happening to them through no fault of their own. But that's perfectly scientifically possible because while most of us will usually get a coin to land either way up about 50% of the time, it’s statistically true tat their will be a small amount of people who get it to land on one side a lot more than the other, and en even smaller amount for which it will always land the same side.

I.e. it is possible to be a born loser/winner, if not with everything, then just more than the normal quota…

Calling it good luck or bad luck when something happens to you that you can’t control is perfectly sane. The universe is so infinitely massive and complex that you can’t control many of the variables that affect you. So luck is just another name for fortune.

If you blame bad judgement or lack of skill on luck, you’re just a fool.
 
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hpkomic at 10:59AM, March 14, 2006
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Would you happen to have any links or resources that explain these probability examples you posted? I'm very curious.
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Ronson at 8:13PM, March 14, 2006
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The thing about luck is that you can't be sure that when something bad happens to you that it won't lead to something good, or Vice Versa.
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Inkmonkey at 8:33PM, March 14, 2006
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This reminds of…. well, every other Greco Roman myth ever.

Mysterious oracle warns King that his son/nephew/some kid in town is going to kill him later on in life, so the king does something to get rid of the kid (have it thrown off a cliff, lock his daughter in the attic so she can't get pregnant, send the kid to another country, etc.) Anyway, if he tries to kill the kid, it either miraculously survives or the person assigned to kill it takes pity on the little bastard and sends it somewhere to live relatively happily.

In the end, the kid always comes back and kills the king one way or another. Oftentimes the very act meant to rid himself of the child imbeds in it such resentment that it actually motivates the king's eventual murder.

The point is, it's the King's irrational reaction to the prediction that ultimately leads to his death. If he had raised the child lovingly, or at least left it alone, chances are he could have considered the oracle just some crazy old bink who wandered into town one day.



Anyway, what I'm getting at in relation to this is that I believe in chance and randomness, but many of the perceptions of luck (good and bad) are simply assumed or made up as a means of comforting oneself. As they say, everything has a reason; of course, you can't control (or often, even understand) the reason that a lot of things happen, but often people lose track of the things they do control and simply blame the results on Luck.

This is, of course, coming from someone who has worked in a Casino for a considerable period of time, and if anything will make you re-evaulate your perception of Luck, it's that.
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Whiskers at 9:29PM, March 14, 2006
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I don't know if this'll help or not, but everything in this realm, or any realm for that matter, happens for a reason. And there will always be a balance to that reason.

There are bad things that happen to good people, but on the opposite side of the spectrum there are good things that happen to bad people.

Everything evens out in the end. Some people go through rough patches ‘n at, but eventually they’ll have good patches to even out those rough ones. So I guess I don't believe in luck OR in being our own makers for fortunes/misfortuntes. It just happens, and it depends on how you take it.

Ie- You get a flat tire on the way to work. COULD be bad luck, but look at it this way; if you didn't get a flat tire (and had to pay bunches of money for the truck ‘n at), then perhaps you’d be at work that day and completely missed out on the opportunities that otherwise you would've never had the chance to get. Like, let's say, the people who are changing your tire also change your oil for a discounted price.
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isukun at 10:12PM, March 14, 2006
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Can a person just have bad luck? I think I'm living proof of that. I definitely have more bad days than good and usually those days are composed of a number of smaller inconviniences which add up to a generally lousy day. Things like delayed trains making me late for class or the parking lot at the metro being closed so I have to go to one further away that costs more and requires cash in advance so I end up not being able to afford lunch. Buying a DVD only to find it's corrupted. Getting to school 3 hours early only to find they decided to not follow the 24 hour policy on computer labs during finals week that night. Things like that happen way too often with me. Even my friends joke about me being “cursed”.

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SpANG at 12:47PM, March 15, 2006
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I think RED DWARF had it right.

Luck is a virus. Good and bad. You may carry the virus, you may not. :wink:

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“To a rational mind, nothing is inexplicable. Only unexplained.”
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