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Beowulf Trailer, or Yummy CGI Goodness.
maritalbliss at 6:17PM, Sept. 22, 2007
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Based on the level of artistry used in the film adaptation of Frank Millers, “300.” I'm fairly psyched to see director, Robert Zemeckis attempting to bring the dynamic epic poem, Beowulf to the screen.



With an all-star cast like: Ray Winstone, Angelina Jolie, John Malkovich and Anthony Hopkins; just to name a few……it'd be hard to fuzz this one. But, you never know. I think it looks awesome and I've always loved the “Beowulf” lore.
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Cthulhu at 6:40PM, Sept. 22, 2007
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I'll be sure to see that before thirteen-year-olds everywhere destroy it.
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Priest_Revan at 6:41PM, Sept. 22, 2007
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Just like I saw “300”, I will see this.
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Armagedon at 1:31AM, Sept. 23, 2007
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i really cant wait for this movie to come out. its got a great cast for the most part, and they've chosen a great story to adapt. I'm actually surprised it took hollywood this long to do this adaptation.
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MrRiot at 9:21AM, Sept. 27, 2007
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Wow.
With a cast like that AND a screenplay co-written by Neil Gaiman?!
I was afriad they would just stick to the better-known part about Grendel, but it looks like they're going for the whole kit and kaboodle! Can't wait for this movie!

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ccs1989 at 7:56PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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Talk about miscasting Grendel's mother…
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maritalbliss at 10:03AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Talk about miscasting Grendel's mother…

I don't know…She say's “Monster Woman” to me. :)
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hpkomic at 11:10AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Jesus christ everything looks so lifeless.

Why couldn't they just use real actors instead of replicating people in CG? Everyone has such souless eyes. :\
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Bekefel at 2:17PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Jesus christ everything looks so lifeless.

Why couldn't they just use real actors instead of replicating people in CG? Everyone has such souless eyes. :\

I agree, I don't like the look of this at all.
Please, please, you give me too little credit.
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subcultured at 12:13PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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looks real to me
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hpkomic at 1:21PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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looks real to me

If by real you mean really terrible. Then yeah. I can agree there.

Hopefully the writing can save the terribly souless CG.
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subcultured at 6:11PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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nah, i meant realistic
like this:
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ozoneocean at 6:33PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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Going to have to agree with HPK… Nothing “realer” than actual the actors themselves. ;)
 
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subcultured at 6:40PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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how can you tell
computers nowadays can simulate a pretty good simulation of reality.
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hpkomic at 6:44PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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how can you tell
computers nowadays can simulate a pretty good simulation of reality.

The problem is the hollowness the CG actors exibit. They don't look natural at all.
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subcultured at 6:52PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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they look pretty natural to me

like i said, how can you tell:




cg or not it still ends up as film and you can manipulate film aesthetically to be more realistic.

like how some artists are able to create hyper realistic art
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SarahN at 6:55PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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Looks kind of interesting…but…ugh. What's the point of that amazing cgi if you're just going to make them look like the actors we've seen before? If they're not going to go original with the characters, then why not just leave them live action instead of making them look more fake with cgi? I might excuse the “hollowness” if I didn't know what the actors looked like.

I wonder if we will eventually get to the point where you can't even tell the difference between cgi and live action though? This is still one of those where I have a double-take to realise it's not real, but then you realise it's Angelina Jolie….and she looks to be made of plastic.
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ozoneocean at 7:45PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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and she looks to be made of plastic.
You mean she's not? o_O
 
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MrRiot at 8:08PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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After the awful crap-debacle that was the film adaption of my beloved Transformers, I no longer have any faith in Hollywood to adapt ANYTHING to film. The UPSIDE to this is that I no longer have any EXPECTATIONS and will simply go to movies to be entertained, not see true representations of source material. In that respect, I really think I'll enjoy this movie. I could really care less about CGI actors and whether or not it looks “real”. CGI actors and backgrounds? Bring ‘em on. One-dimensional Jolie as Grendel’s mother? Sure, why not? Just make it ENTERTAINING.

You want real substance go to a film festival. Don't go looking for it from Hollywood.


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ozoneocean at 8:29PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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You want real substance go to a film festival. Don't go looking for it from Hollywood.
You mean they don't have any real people there anymore at all? CGI replicants!

Call in the Bladerunner!

…no, wait a sec, that means Harrison Ford's a replicant too? Jebus, are any of us even real any longer? o_O
 
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Rich at 10:05PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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Ick. I sure as hell hope that trailer was a WIP, cause if not Beowulf is gonna land so far into the uncanny valley that it'll only have budget CG movies with talking animals to keep it company.
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subcultured at 10:25PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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i like watching 3d movies…just depends on your taste.
I liked FFSW, some people didn't.
i used to play Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy just to watch the cut scenes

to me Beowulf looks awesome.
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Rich at 10:31PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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i like watching 3d movies…just depends on your taste.

That's the thing, this could end up being a really amazing movie. But no amount of amazement will work if the characters just come across as lifeless and creepy. Some people will be able to look past it, but the majority won't be able to.

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i used to play Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy just to watch the cut scenes

The thing about the uncanny valley is that it doesn't hit until things look just about perfect except not quite perfect. MGS and FF are just stylized enough and not real enough that they won't have to worry about the uncanny valley. Yet.
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subcultured at 10:57PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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it's more animated than most animes that are coming out lately

i woke up to the fact that most animes take shortcuts with just
-paneling a scene background moves right to left, character moves left to right
-animating just lips
-cycled animation
-show background while a character is talking
-static images

old animes (thundercats) were more expressive than today's so called animes

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Rich at 11:01PM, Oct. 4, 2007
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Yes, I understand it is more animated, but that isn't the problem. The problem is that the people are JUST real enough to look believable, but not real enough to fool us. That leads them to look wierd and eery. THAT is the uncanny valley.

A stylized cartoon CANNOT land in the uncanny valley due to the fact that it lacks the realism needed for that to happen.
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Beaums at 9:09PM, Oct. 9, 2007
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We just finished studying "Beowulf“ in my grade 12 English Literature Honours class, and our teacher has suggested we go see the film as a field trip. So yes, I'll probably see this movie. It'll be interesting to see how Hollywood hacks apart yet another classic piece of English literature and stuffs it full of glitz and glamour. :P

My opinions? Well, I'm not too sure about the over-enhancing CGI effects. Yes, they make the actors and actresses appear as crystal clear as they have been before, but it totally destroys the raw earthiness ”Beowulf“ was crafted around. Beowulf takes place in the Anglo-Saxon time, a time of grim, dirty, grittiness, not emaculate perfection. And secondly, what's the deal with casting Crispin Glover as Grendel and Angelina Jolie as Grendel's Mother?! Grendel and Grendel's Mother are supposed to be massive, hideous, bone-chewing MONSTERS, not people! And why is the story in the film due to shift its attention towards Grendel's Mother? The epic poem ”Beowulf“ is supposed to be about Beowulf coming to vanquish Grendel. Grendel's Mother is supposed to be part of a lesser story, completely separate from the four acts. Aye aye aye…

But I will see this film, don't get me wrong. It could be good. If it's anything like ”300", we might have something here.

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ozoneocean at 8:58AM, Oct. 10, 2007
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And why is the story in the film due to shift its attention towards Grendel's Mother? The epic poem “Beowulf” is supposed to be about Beowulf coming to vanquish Grendel. Grendel's Mother is supposed to be part of a lesser story, completely separate from the four acts. Aye aye aye…
Aw, you know how those things are; When you do an artistic adaption of something you often change the emphasis. Funnily though, something like Shakespeare is never twisted too much (unless it's aesthetically)… But that's a perfectly legitimate thing to do. Hehehe, I mean, even with your example of the “300” the ruthless, fascist, military dictatorship, that did “Nazi” before it was even invented (the Spartans) were characterised as defenders of “freedom”. ;)

Heh, I'd say it was set in “Viking time” myself, but collectively we'd call it the Dark Ages. :)
-Written by Anglo Saxons about their Scandinavian ancestors,

It'll prolly be a very well done film though. It'd just be nice to see if they could use CGI to replace the actors rather than simply emulate them.
 
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mlai at 12:25PM, Oct. 10, 2007
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This film will Win or Fail based on whether or not it utters the word "freedom" during its 2 hours.

I am so sick of hearing that word from every period movie that came out after Braveheart. I don't think LOTR had that word, thanks be.

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blakechen at 11:41PM, Nov. 10, 2007
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The problem is the hollowness the CG actors exibit. They don't look natural at all.

For me the problem isn't as much how the characters look as how they move. The stills for the movie look great but from the clips I've seen, the characters still move too much like they're in a video game.

But I must admit, being a CG artist I have a fascination for the technology and just how far it can go. For that reason alone (well, that and the fact that Neil Gaiman wrote the script), I plan to see it.
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hpkomic at 9:58AM, Nov. 11, 2007
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I just found out that this is one of the films up for the best animated feature oscar. That pisses me off. All they've done is slapped some CG on some motion-capture.
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