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Beowulf Trailer, or Yummy CGI Goodness.
Inkmonkey at 5:57PM, Nov. 17, 2007
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The first scene in the movie is easily the worst. Probably because there are just so many characters there, and the animators couldn't really animate each one as well as the main characters later on. There are some scenes that are just spot-on realistically, while others are distracting and weird. The CG really shines in the action scenes, which I'd imagine is due in part to the fact that the characters move enough to look “realistic”.

The most impressive scenes are probably the closeups. They really go out of their way on those to make sure and keep out of the Uncanny Valley.

It still bothers me, though, that they made all of the characters look almost exactly like the actors portraying them (especially with Jolie). At that point, why bother with cgi?
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subcultured at 6:24PM, Nov. 17, 2007
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It still bothers me, though, that they made all of the characters look almost exactly like the actors portraying them (especially with Jolie). At that point, why bother with cgi?
it's the hitch…mostly having a lot to do with marketing.

the average moviegoer respond well if they see a familiar face of a famous actor, even if it is cged. probably why it was hard to market final fantasy SW.

they had some famous actors:

Alec Baldwin … Capt. Gray Edwards (voice)

Ving Rhames … Sgt. Ryan Whitaker (voice)

Steve Buscemi … Officer Neil Fleming (voice)

Peri Gilpin … Officer Jane Proudfoot (voice)

Donald Sutherland … Dr. Cid (voice)

James Woods … General Hein (voice)

but no one could relate to them, because they weren't a real representation of the actor.

kinda like why movies that are crap with famous actors:

gets a lot of money.
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TheMidge28 at 6:56PM, Nov. 17, 2007
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Found new clip which seems to show some better CGI work…



no you don't guys
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AaronThomasNelson at 7:01PM, Nov. 17, 2007
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I. Am. Baiowulf! And. I. Am. Single!
I'm not promoting my comics. So, don't read them.
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ozoneocean at 1:15AM, Nov. 18, 2007
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Is that Wild Hogs thing a real movie? Sad…
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So he's like the inspiration for the entire pro wrestling profession?
That's more true than you realise… Especially since the original character kills Grendal by ripping his arm off. Beowulf had a famous sword, but he seems to have been more of a hand to hand fighter.

Marine's description of this film as Video game sprites was brilliant ^^
 
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marine at 5:03AM, Nov. 18, 2007
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Is that Wild Hogs thing a real movie? Sad…
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So he's like the inspiration for the entire pro wrestling profession?
That's more true than you realise… Especially since the original character kills Grendal by ripping his arm off. Beowulf had a famous sword, but he seems to have been more of a hand to hand fighter.

Marine's description of this film as Video game sprites was brilliant ^^

Not only was Wild Hogs a piece of shit, but it was a hit movie.

I was forced to watch Knocked Up and it was just awful. Like the complete opposite of funny. Just forced humor and bringing up uncomfortable topics. You know that ping pong movie? Also a piece of shit. Take a premise that would be thin as a SNL sketch, and just stretch that into a whole movie. It did the thing a lot of movies now do where any humor at all was used in the trailer, and most all of it was physical comedy. What happened to the days of movies like Robocop or Starship Troopers? Days when special effects looked good. Robocop has almost no computer generated effects at all, and you know what? It holds up. Watch Dragonheart or something from say 95-00, that isn't Starship Troopers. The reason Spider-mans special effects are considered “good” is that they know how to use digital effects to enhance real special effects. But at the same time, there are some of those shitty video game character scenes.

For example, Green Goblin 2 and Spider-man fight towards the begging of the movie. Certain shots you can see the digital peter parker, and he looks like he walked out of Final Fantasy 8. You think I'm joking.

Surprise surprise, the beowolf game is getting low scores from reviewers. If I have to choose between Beowolf and a game from two years ago that was actually good, I'm going to rent the actually good game from two years ago. Why you ask? Gameplay over graphics, good games over liscensed games. Not to say that I don't like a good liscened game every once in a while, I like everyone else really want to play the Ghostbusters game, but if you had to choose between Gears of War or Beowolf, or lets say Condemned or Beowolf, last years Tony Hawk or Smackdown against Beowolf, which would you choose? A game that looks better than the movie its based on but plays like a piece of shit? Especially considering you can be playing stuff like Dead Rising or Saints Row.


Even the new Conan the barbarian game has more appeal than this.






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Sidwarrious at 8:31AM, Nov. 18, 2007
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Marine, you're a bit of a hater man. I liked Knocked up. And I loved Superbad. I woulda really loved it if my friend took his 13 yr old sister with him when he didn't know just how bad it was. That woulda made it GREAT.

And the Beowulf movie was ok, not great. Saw it last night.
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mlai at 12:40PM, Nov. 18, 2007
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-Is the movie good?
-Did the CG bother you?
-What format did you watch it in (35mm or Digital)?
-Do you think it would've been better if it was mostly live action (like LOTR)?
I'll answer my own questions:

-Certainly not as good as 300.

-This is like watching a 2 hour long PC game cutscene. Even though you're not repulsed, you'll feel more attached to real ppl or cartoon characters than to these “realistic” CG characters.

Edit: John Malkovich is the one guy you'll think is the real thing, and it's not because of the skill of the CGers.

-Digital 3D is the only worthwhile way to watch this movie, since it's screenplayed for that expressed purpose.

-Most definitely. This movie is Zemeckis' 3D wank.

So he's like the inspiration for the entire pro wrestling profession?
I can't believe how true my own statement was. If you've ever been exposed to any pro wrestling on TV, you will not be able to muffle your laughter in this movie. I dunno why nobody was laughing with me.

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Priceman at 9:11PM, Nov. 18, 2007
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Just saw the movie tonight. Great picture, nice mix of CG and live action. I recommend it.
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subcultured at 9:38PM, Nov. 18, 2007
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it's all cg
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Sidwarrious at 10:36PM, Nov. 18, 2007
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There are some parts where it's really hard to tell. Of course you can always tell if you're ultra observant and a prick about it, but if you're taking it all in as a whole sometimes you really think its a real person.
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jalford at 3:30AM, Nov. 19, 2007
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Grendel in this movie was basiclly Gollum fused with Hoggle from Labyrinth, and drownded in toxic waste. What was the deal with him shrinking? Did his viagra wear off during the fight or something? And for the love of God, put some pants on, both of you! Like seeing digital Anthony Hopkins in the buff wasn't disturbing enough.

The ending was pretty terrible. Like "It's up to the audience to decide what Wiglaf did with Grendel's mommy". Pigeon-shit! So, did they go and sire the Loch Ness Monster?
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Beaums at 5:03PM, Nov. 29, 2007
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Got around to seeing Beowulf today with my English class. Yeah, we got to go see Beowulf on a field trip, how cool is that?

But man… I don't know where to begin. It was pretty bizarre. Definitely not what I was expecting, and very astray from the original Anglo-Saxon legend.

I agree with most of you guys, it really looked like a video game cutscene at parts. The beginning scene of the movie could easily act as an opening video game scene, despite the fact that it was pretty quirky and perverted. There were some fabulous close-up shots though, many of which looked really believable. The ending shot of Wiglaf was pretty ace and the action scenes were pretty top-notch, the dragon action sequence in particular. You know what I think it really looked like though? Shrek! The very first shot of Queen Wealtheow really made me think of Dreamworks' animation on Shrek. So the whole movie kind of played out like a dark, violent version of Shrek.

My friends and I actually took the movie as pretty hilarious. Beowulf was pretty ridiculous. He practically stated his name whenever possible, and even used it as a come back. One of the main highlights of the movie for my friends and I was when Beowulf busted out of the sea monster's eye and screamed his name in bloody triumph. And yeah, I thought Beowulf's whole motivation in getting naked to fight was questionable and really unnecessary. How there was always something to cover his junk was pretty funny though, reminded me of Austin Powers. Grendel was, like jalford said, a burn-victim Gollum. And I also found Unferth as really creepy, and not because he was played by John Malcovich. He just came off as really off in the movie and it really wierded me out at parts. The rest of the characters appeared as I expected. Hrothgar was more of a crotchety old man than the Hrothgar in the epic poem, but that's about it.

Despite the generally wierd vibe I got from the movie, it had a good story (in my eyes). Yes it wasn't much like the original poem at all, but the modern movie industry is RARELY going to give us a faithful adaptation, let's admit it. The whole concept behind the “curse” of Grendel's mother made things work. Unfortunately, the story was brought down with some really awkward dialogue and cheesy lines. The ending was awful too, and got a lot of groans from the audience. I'd say Beowulf is worth your money though, not as good as 300, but an explosive cinematic experience nonetheless. I don't regret seeing it, and I'd even like to revisit it in 3D.

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ocelott at 9:59PM, Nov. 29, 2007
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Beowulf was the most unintentionally hilarious movie I've seen in a long time. I'm not quite sure how “Beowulf slays Grendel's mother” in the original story turns into “Angelina Jolie seduces everyone in her path,” but I suppose that's to be expected from Hollywood. I was entertained by how many phallic objects they could find to hide Beowulf's nudity, but I think the bizarre capper was Angelina's high heeled feet. Was that really necessary? It didn't come across as sexy, it was just weird and felt like they were trying too hard. (Also… I think you can figure out for yourselves what it means that I found these little things to be amused by, rather than being entertained by the movie as a whole.)

On the upside, I'm pretty sure I can turn their game of “hide the penis” into a great drinking game. Although I'm kind of wondering if anyone playing will still be conscious at the end of the movie…
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mlai at 6:08AM, Nov. 30, 2007
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Yeah what was with that? It was so blatant it became a serious break from story immersion; I'm surprised that an experienced director would've allowed that. OTOH this was a fapping exercise for Zemeckis, so I guess he was having fun at the expense of the movie.

Would've been better if he just wore a loincloth. But wouldn't be as absurdly hilarious I guess.

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ocelott at 2:33PM, Nov. 30, 2007
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Yeah what was with that? It was so blatant it became a serious break from story immersion; I'm surprised that an experienced director would've allowed that.

At least it was equal opportunity random nudity? I dunno, I agree with you. None of it was necessary, and it actually jogged me out of the story rather than enhancing. But hey, entertainment is entertainment, right? I'm all for going in to giggle at this movie, so long as you know that's what you'll be getting out of it.
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Beaums at 3:57PM, Nov. 30, 2007
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I thought it was funny how old man Beowulf started to take off his clothes before he killed that last survivor of the war. My friends and I literally burst out laughing when he tore his shirt open.

Guess he's just gotta exert his manliness at any possible moment. But agree with you guys, it was pretty unnecessary. Maybe it was Zemeckis' way of keeping up with 300. Though I suppose 300 still wins hands down. In 300 you got authentic, real-life abs poppin' out at you throughout the whole movie.

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mlai at 4:19PM, Nov. 30, 2007
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Yeah there was just no point to any of the nudity. I don't find polygonal nudity to be, what, sexy? Downright creepy if anyone does.

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subcultured at 10:28PM, Nov. 30, 2007
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nude = more money
it's all calculated business
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jalford at 4:06AM, Dec. 2, 2007
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If Beowulf was so MANLY, then how come he didn't get the Queen preggers during the last 2 decades later? He had her and that harlot. Did screwing Gendel's mom make him impotent?
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marine at 4:35AM, Dec. 2, 2007
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He got an STD.
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ocelott at 1:58PM, Dec. 2, 2007
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If Beowulf was so MANLY, then how come he didn't get the Queen preggers during the last 2 decades later?

I got the impression she'd refused to sleep with him because he'd knocked boots with Angelina, the same way she did with the king before him.
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Ziffy88 at 3:29PM, Dec. 3, 2007
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it's not like it has a chance against ratatouille
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Beaums at 10:24PM, Dec. 3, 2007
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He got an STD.

Ah ha ha! I coulda sworn Beowulf would have also gotten some form of AIDS from wrastlin' naked with Grendel. I mean come on, Grendel was practically a walking talking open wound! Beowulf was rubbin' himself all up on that nastiness!

But yeah, I'm pretty sure the Queen refused to sleep with Beowulf after his affair with Grendel's mother became apparent. Plus, Beowulf was gettin' busy with his mistress Ursula on the side. Let's face it, Beowulf was an 11th century player. Monster slaying was just… you know… a side project. lol!

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ozoneocean at 10:42PM, Dec. 3, 2007
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A few centuries earlier than the 11th, quite a few! ;)
 
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jalford at 3:35AM, Dec. 4, 2007
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Geez, he was full of himself! If he was really kicking all that sea monster ass after swimming for a whole week, then he should've finished off Grendel with a Kamehameha blast and gone back home on his flying nimbus.

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blakechen at 1:59AM, Dec. 5, 2007
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Yeah there was just no point to any of the nudity. I don't find polygonal nudity to be, what, sexy? Downright creepy if anyone does.

Mmm… polygonal nudity. Yum.
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Beaums at 5:05PM, Dec. 5, 2007
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A few centuries earlier than the 11th, quite a few! ;)

Yeah you're right. The only surviving manuscript of Beowulf was written somewhere around the 11th century, so I just used I went for that. The story probably went down somewhere around the 8th century methinks…

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lastcall at 7:18PM, Dec. 8, 2007
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I just found out that this is one of the films up for the best animated feature oscar. That pisses me off. All they've done is slapped some CG on some motion-capture.

Yeah, that's a load of crap. That gives me real faith in the Academy (she says, with a butt-load of sarcasm).

What bothers me the most about this kind of movie is that here they are, paying the actors millions of dollars, when they should be giving that money to the CG animators.
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magickmaker at 6:00PM, Dec. 13, 2007
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…this was actively one of the worst movies I have seen in while, right up there with Balls of Fury.

They took what should have been the best fight scenes and made them so freaking boring I nearly nodded off. They mangled the original story and the only purpose the CGI had was to give the movie a hook. The best scene was his fight with sea monsters by far. (And what was with him taking off his clothes every ten seconds? I don't want to see a CG willy, but if he takes his clothes off every ten seconds, logically we should see him naked. It was stupid.)
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