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Best pens to use?
mechanical_lullaby at 7:34AM, Feb. 20, 2006
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After finally getting around to doing a comic… it looks very bad and very washed out basically because I'm just using ball point pens.

I was wondering what kind of pens are the best kind to use. I'm going to go pick some up from the craft store today and some examples would be really really great.

Please?

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Picselly at 8:38AM, Feb. 20, 2006
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I use Sakura Pigma Microns. They don't fade when I erase over them and they're very comfortable to write with. I've tried other brands but I like these the best. (Though now I'm found using the tablet more.) There's also a variety of sizes. They're a bit expensive though… But I guess all nice pens are around that price. It was about $4.50 Canadian for one.
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Chameloncholic at 8:51AM, Feb. 20, 2006
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I use one Sakura micron 0.05 for all my detail stuff, everything else is done with a brush pen. Grab yourself a cheap brush pen if you can and see how you like the feel of it.
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T_K at 10:17AM, Feb. 20, 2006
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I use a brush pen and 3 different sized Microns, all of them are of the brand Faber Castell
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ccs1989 at 1:59PM, Feb. 20, 2006
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I use…sharpies.

Cause I'm cheap.
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Ronson at 3:37PM, Feb. 20, 2006
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KURATAKE!
KURATAKE!
KURATAKE!
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rillystar at 11:56PM, Feb. 20, 2006
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I use crazy-idiot method to ink…

start with a Copic 0.1 liner…then go over with a 0.3 liner….then in other places as needed go over with a 0.5 liner. If working bigger scale I may go up into the even wider and bigger pens….

Actually I'm not really stuck on only using Copic liners…I just like them. I also use Staedlers, Sakura's and plain old dippin ink and pen….
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Inkmonkey at 7:22AM, Feb. 21, 2006
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Sakura and Copic are probably your best bets for quality, but for only slight inferiority with a bit of drop in price, I recommend Faber Castell.

Though after learning how the professionals do things in college, I've found that the best results actually come from using a real brush and some dipping ink. Brushes are quite a bit more expensive and require some real maintenance, but I've found the results to be much more impressive. I still don't use one for E&A, though, since I tend to draw “On the go” and it'd be really too much hassle to try and ink like that outside of ideal conditions.
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ozoneocean at 9:01AM, Feb. 21, 2006
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All my “inking” is done with my tablet, I even draw ink with it… Oh the irony :roll:
But it gives you good lines and you never have to buy new pens. Plus, you don't even have to go through the penciling stage if you use a tablet.
-disadvantage: tied to a computer… You can't really work “on the go” as Inkymonkey puts it. Unless you've got a tablet PC that is. (but who would waste money on one of those?).
 
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coinilius at 8:05PM, Feb. 23, 2006
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I gave up inking long ago and just scan my pencils in… a little bit of clean up later and I've got a comic.
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Ian Jay at 12:17PM, Feb. 24, 2006
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I mostly use Pilot Precise 0.05 roller ball pens. Occasionally I use Sakura 0.01 and 0.005 microns, but ever since I switched to a larger paper size I don't use them as much, unless I need to get some really fine facial features or crosshatching or something.

I also use nondescript felt-tip pens for Walt's hair, and, of course, a thick black Sharpie for the panel borders. Sharpie is an oft-overlooked tool in the comics world, but I am proud to utilize it.

~IJ
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ccs1989 at 7:28PM, Feb. 24, 2006
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Oh sharpies….They'd be perfect if they didn't bleed so frekin much.
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mechanical_lullaby at 2:15AM, Feb. 25, 2006
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Oh sharpies….They'd be perfect if they didn't bleed so frekin much.
i actually used sharpies once… it turned out alright, but I had too much detail for it…

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coinilius at 8:43PM, Feb. 27, 2006
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I used a sharpie the other day… and boy, they really do bleed like anything!
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Goblyn at 7:27AM, Feb. 28, 2006
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You can control the bleeding of a sharpie (or and marker for that fact) if you have the right kind of paper… there are papers that are designed for “ink” that don't allow thie ink to bleed as much… But Imoved to a tablet because of inking.
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riley at 1:35PM, March 1, 2006
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i have 20 kinds of pens and sharpies… use one pen for fine one for dark and wide ect..i think you just have to keep playing around till you find what you like…fine line sharpies are not bad if you are useing good paper..

I've found that the best results actually come from using a real brush and some dipping ink. Brushes are quite a bit more expensive and require some real maintenance,
the maintence is really not that much just clean them and store them right.. however i would go with a true pen..not a brush. if you do go this way for comics scan a in case i ******* up copy.. before you start.. dry time and the anger i feel when the ink drips make me go to pens for everything but fine art…most of the time i want to scan as soon as i ink..and with true ink i have to wait for it to dry..





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Blueberry146 at 11:55AM, March 2, 2006
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why not do it all in pencil, then up the contrast on the computer? Its less expensive and looks just as good ^-^
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Chameloncholic at 11:25PM, March 2, 2006
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Also, it doesn't always look that good.
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riley at 2:15PM, March 3, 2006
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why not do it all in pencil, then up the contrast on the computer?

i lose shading that way…and a lot of the small lines.. I need half tones and i often do pencel shading.. For some things uping the contrast would be fast and easy for others…i would get white where i had carfully worked in grays…
http://www.drunkduck.com/Life_with_Dragons/index.php?p=14126

see the pitcher top panal if i up the contrast i lose the finest of my lines…and i get a white where i want gray…

this next one needs the gray to show high lights in the hair.. i just have trouble getting the same look with nothing but digital coloring some people i know can but not me…its not great art i know..but i keep tring …and ink and charcoal..pencel and even watercolor..and digital are all means to a ends..

http://www.drunkduck.com/Life_with_Dragons/index.php?p=20795


you just have to find what makes you happiest.. i just know that i lose stuff when i just up the contrast
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ArekuDemon at 5:36PM, March 22, 2006
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I use anything thats on hand. Ballpoint, technical pens…
Because Microns are very difficult to find here (And i dont want to get raped by the postage cost from US) I use STYB Precision pens…the only downside is they are not waterproof like microns.
If I have time, I use dip nibs and india ink.

If im really bored, ill ink with my tablet on photoshop (Tho this usually takes forever because im a masochist and like to work at 300dpi size :P )
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PoisonedV at 6:21PM, March 22, 2006
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ccs1989 at 12:32PM, March 23, 2006
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I used a sharpie the other day… and boy, they really do bleed like anything!

I've been using sharpies for 2 or 3 years now for all my comic work. Before that I drew only in pencil. At first inking something was really akward, but after a while sharpies become good tools if you use them alongside microns for details. I like defined black borders, though, so I use sharpies for most of my linework.

I've only inked one page traditionally with pen an ink. I wasn't very good with it, but I didn't completely fail…
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ccs1989 at 12:35PM, March 23, 2006
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why not do it all in pencil, then up the contrast on the computer? Its less expensive and looks just as good ^-^

My scanner sucks and can't pick up pencil lines for sh*t. Plus you have to do a ton of touch ups to get rid of smudges and stuff like that.

Sorry double post…
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Eirikr at 8:32PM, March 31, 2006
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Question. When I pen my strips, I use a normal ballpoint pen. Now, even enough it looks as black as space when I look at it normally, after being through the scanner it looks lighter, sketchier, and has a tinge of purple to it, as you can see here:

http://www.drunkduck.com/testcomic/index.php

Now, my question is, is that a result of my pen type, or is that the scanner settings?
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ccs1989 at 7:19AM, April 1, 2006
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India Ink also turns brown after a while.
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Huxley at 10:59AM, April 1, 2006
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I just ordered me a .3 (for detail) and a .5 (for everything else) Sakura Pigma Micron pen. I her that's perfect for inking.
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Eirikr at 11:40AM, April 1, 2006
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Question. When I pen my strips, I use a normal ballpoint pen. Now, even enough it looks as black as space when I look at it normally, after being through the scanner it looks lighter, sketchier, and has a tinge of purple to it, as you can see here:

http://www.drunkduck.com/testcomic/index.php

Now, my question is, is that a result of my pen type, or is that the scanner settings?
sorry about that. The link is fine now, and so I reiterate my question.
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Wolfgunner01 at 5:31PM, April 2, 2006
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I use Microns, .1-.5, cheap, you can get them at a local art store like Michaels or Reddiarts. If you really wanna get fancy, get India ink and a brush for bigger ares.
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Smidget at 7:03PM, July 28, 2006
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i generally to everything in pencil using b or 2b, light, etc, and then go over with a felt tip pen. i use computer paper if I dont want it to bleed.


well

but now im doing everything in pencil, then scanning it in, then putting it on Flash 8 pro, then basically redoing it all. Then i add effects eg shadows and reflections. this makes it look complete ;)

visit my comics at www.drunkduck.com/Mula

i just use flash 8 pro for that
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Radec at 5:15PM, July 30, 2006
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I draw mine in pencil, then ignore everything I've done and draw it with a ballpoint pen I found.
then I erase the pencil.
I should really get a better pen.
(but if you have to resort to ballpoint pens, I would recommend one of the Precise V5 - Extra Fine , made by Pilot.)
<= dead and buried.
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