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Zage at 9:48AM, Feb. 14, 2007
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What should i save it as? Gif? JPEG? what both of those fiel formats mess up the comics graphics
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ozoneocean at 9:58AM, Feb. 14, 2007
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Save it as .Jpg .gif or .png
Play with the settings untill it looks right. I'm moving this to the help section.
 
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Emiriichi at 2:21PM, Feb. 14, 2007
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Is there a certain size that I should make my comic page? Or is it completely up to the artist?
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ozoneocean at 3:38PM, Feb. 14, 2007
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It's up to you. I would suggest that it should be under 500K, and people don't like side scrolling so I'd suggest you don't make it too much wider than 1000 pixels unless that's really important to your comic.
 
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rengori at 8:54PM, Feb. 14, 2007
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He's a spriter, all spriters should save as PNG to keep the file good quality.
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ozoneocean at 4:50AM, Feb. 15, 2007
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Gif works exactly the same way regarding indexed pixelated colours, even a little better regarding file size. You can even include animation with them. ;)
PNG 8 bit rather than PNG 24 would be the PNG type you'd prefer.
 
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rengori at 10:14PM, Feb. 15, 2007
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Right, but since Gif and Jpeg are screwing up his image, I'm assuming he's using paint, and PNG is the only thing other than BMP paint will save without screwing it up.
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ozoneocean at 10:14AM, Feb. 16, 2007
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PNG works the same as Gif.
There are extra options and differences between the two, but for pixel comics it's the same.
It wouldn't have been Gif that sucked, it would have been his save settings.
 
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rengori at 3:33PM, Feb. 16, 2007
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You don't have save settings in Paint, Paint sucks at saving, and to save space it does what Rich calls “GIF RAPE!”.

EDIT: The forum resized it, but it gets the point across.

Case and Point:
Png:

Gif:
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ozoneocean at 4:38PM, Feb. 16, 2007
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That's dithering. Looks like “pattern” dithering at a very low colour level. 16 colours? You can do that with PNG 8 if you like too. I just tried it myself in Photoshop :)
I don't know about paint.net though. So that's their default setting for saving things as Gif? That's just bad programming. :(
 
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rengori at 4:52PM, Feb. 16, 2007
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I was talking about MS paint, because it's a very common spriting tool and if saved in PNG very effective. I'm also clueless about Paint.Net.
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reconjsh at 4:22AM, Feb. 18, 2007
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The reason those “file formats mess up your graphic” -

You should know that EVERY time an image is saved as a JPG, there is some image data that is lost and will NEVER return due to compression and decompression upon reopening. So JPGs are nice for final publishing because they're a small file size but should be always avoided for repeated opening, saving, and re-editing.

Here's an example: You make a file and get everything just perfect. You save it as a JPG and close the program you made it in. A day later you open it and change the hair color of a character and resave it as a JPG. Next day, you open it and add word bubbles and save it again. The last day you resize it because the strip was a tad too big and then save it again. Then, you publish it on DrunkDuck. Well, over the course of those couple saves, you may have lost 50% of your original data and thus your image may look like complete crap depending on the complexity of the image.

NOTE: That lost data has to be interpelated (in other words: made up/assumed) by the program opening the JPG. Some programs do this very well… like Photoshop. And others do it very very poorly, like MS PAINT.

My suggestion: Learn photoshop. It's expensive, but I'm guessing there's ways of getting full working versions free… not that I'm suggesting that though =). Then, save your file as a PSD (photoshop document) until you're ready to publish it. You'll never get any image degredation (quality loss) that way… plus you get the added benefit of using layers and being able to edit your image in a large range of new ways.
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Priest_Revan at 11:26PM, Feb. 18, 2007
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I heard PNG works better (I'm keeping jpg though). If you want better colours, go PNG. Otherwise, go JPG or GIF.

As for your question about size.. no more than 1000 pixels wide. It sucks having to scroll for a comic.
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