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Female anatomy
zgenstru at 9:06AM, March 25, 2008
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I've got the male anatomy down pact, but when it comes to females I just can't seem to getting the face drawn properly, any tips on females face drawing?
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Frostflowers at 11:34AM, March 25, 2008
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Practise. Look at reference pictures. Keep in mind that female faces tend to have a rounder, softer look than male faces. Females are less likely to have square chins.
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Custard Trout at 5:43PM, March 25, 2008
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Take some life drawing classes.
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Skullbie at 6:35PM, March 25, 2008
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slim necks, small noses, brighter eyes, nicer lips, slimmer eyebrows, hair is wispier and frames the face…*drools*

Also remember when drawing breasts that they are affected by gravity, not just balloons on their chest. (I had trouble with this one)
 
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lba at 7:42PM, March 25, 2008
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Someone posted this a while back ( At least I think it was here. ) and I think it might be helpful to you.

http://www.posemaniacs.com/
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mishi_hime at 8:54PM, March 25, 2008
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your homework is to look at women…

no no no no…not that!

their faces, faces only.
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deletedbyrequest03 at 10:45PM, March 25, 2008
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Round(er) chins, thinner eyebrows, thicker lips, thinner facial structures…. and so on. The best thing to do is find a reference picture. If you want, I can draw something for you.

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zgenstru at 5:22PM, March 26, 2008
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Also remember when drawing breasts that they are affected by gravity, not just balloons on their chest. (I had trouble with this one)

Ironicaly boobs were the easiest thing to draw for me(and yet I'm having trouble with the face), realistacly that is. XD

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Oh and thanks for the tips on face drawing.
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zgenstru at 1:51PM, March 27, 2008
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Well aside from that I'll still need more advice like, how to make a female face look attractive?
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Puff_Of_Smoke at 2:21PM, March 27, 2008
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That, my friend, depends on your taste in woman.
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zgenstru at 2:55PM, March 27, 2008
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That, my friend, depends on your taste in woman.

Would One Piece style women qualify as good taste?



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Skullbie at 5:32PM, March 27, 2008
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Would One Piece style women qualify as good taste?




I'm pretty sure you're joking, but try to learn from an artist who knows what anatomy is lol :)
 
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zgenstru at 5:50PM, March 27, 2008
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Would One Piece style women qualify as good taste?




I'm pretty sure you're joking, but try to learn from an artist who knows what anatomy is lol :)

Haha I was only kidding about the One Piece one.
I actually learned alot of boob drawing from playing *tales of symphonia*, as for regular anatomy I just used a Lets Draw Manga book.


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The only artist I can think of who knows their female anatomy would be Stan Lee or whoever the heck makes them X-men comics.
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killersteak at 11:05PM, March 27, 2008
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Ask some passers by in the street to take their clothes off for you.

Then draw them or something, I dunno.
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zgenstru at 7:57AM, March 29, 2008
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Ask some passers by in the street to take their clothes off for you.



Hahahahaha! lol! That's a good one man.
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Frostflowers at 11:51AM, March 29, 2008
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Bwahaha - Kalifa's face might not be too bad (if you're into the inexplicably high-forehead look that all of Oda's women seem to suffer from), but she is definitely not up to scratch when it comes to proper anatomy. :P Her legs go on forver and ever, and in that particular shot, her torso is sort of skewed, and let's not even talk about her chest and neck.*loves Oda anyway* Sheena's boobs are sort of gravity defying (and as for walking around with them bouncing like that when you're a ninja - well, let's just say it isn't very practical, or sensible)

Your best bet is to practise lifedrawing. Are there any lifedrawing courses available where you live? If there aren't, draw from photographs as it's the next best thing - don't try to learn anatomy from looking at other comics. You can easily learn little tricks, and ways to stylize things, but the real, solid basics can only be learned from lifedrawing/photographic reference.
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zgenstru at 6:12PM, March 29, 2008
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Bwahaha - Kalifa's face might not be too bad (if you're into the inexplicably high-forehead look that all of Oda's women seem to suffer from), but she is definitely not up to scratch when it comes to proper anatomy. :P Her legs go on forver and ever, and in that particular shot, her torso is sort of skewed, and let's not even talk about her chest and neck.*loves Oda anyway* Sheena's boobs are sort of gravity defying (and as for walking around with them bouncing like that when you're a ninja - well, let's just say it isn't very practical, or sensible)

Your best bet is to practise lifedrawing. Are there any lifedrawing courses available where you live? If there aren't, draw from photographs as it's the next best thing - don't try to learn anatomy from looking at other comics. You can easily learn little tricks, and ways to stylize things, but the real, solid basics can only be learned from lifedrawing/photographic reference.

Well I could study off of Danica Patrick.

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ozoneocean at 9:31PM, March 29, 2008
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Yeah, she's nice looking. But those facial features are actually more classically male, so be careful. ;)

Drawing comics is usually more about stylisations and archetypes… Idealisations. More than reality. :(

Which is why we have the classic “manga” look and stuff like X-men :)
 
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arteestx at 2:30PM, April 1, 2008
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Well aside from that I'll still need more advice like, how to make a female face look attractive?
I think there are two keys to making a face look attractive. The first is proportions. I can't remember the study offhand, but I believe researchers have found that when people rate faces on a scale in terms of attractiveness, proportionality is the most common characteristic; the more proportionate a face is, the more attractive it's rated. Here are some tips that I use…



Of course, these are just rules of thumb that can be tossed aside with any creative whim you might have. You can elongate noses, increase the size of eyes, shorten the mouth, etc. But at least know the rules you're breaking.

The second key is being judicious in using your lines. This is something I commonly see with people who try to make someone look attractive but keep coming up short (I don't know if you do this as well, but I'll throw it out there). Here are two drawings of a woman smiling….



The face on the left is proportionate, and when someone smiles, every line that is drawn there will appear on the face. But when you draw a line, there's a heaviness to it, almost a harshness, that makes the lines deeper and face creepier. The face on the right suggests many of the same lines (a shadow by the edge of the mouth and by the nose) without actually drawing them. Rather than drawing every single tooth, just suggest all the teeth. For attractive faces, don't feel like you have to draw every realistic line.

Those are my two cents….

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Frostflowers at 10:28AM, April 2, 2008
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To add to what arteestx said - the more lines you draw on someone's face, the older they look. If you want to draw children, go for as few lines as possible, and remember that children often have rounder faces than adults/teenagers.

Someone, somewhere, once said that each line you add to someone's face adds another year to their age. Not sure if this is entirely true, but it's a general principle to work along. Of course, if you want someone to look old, or tired, or ravaged by illness or something, then by all means, draw lines all over them. :P
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kyupol at 10:19PM, April 9, 2008
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its all in the shoulder width in relation to the hips.
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ttyler at 7:19AM, April 10, 2008
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Also remember, that every extra line you add to a face, adds 10 yrs of age or so. Keep the faces simple, only doing what is absolutley necessary to create the particular emotion you are after. Don't Rob Liefeld your characters.
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