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Fuck the RIAA long and hard
Red Slayer at 12:41PM, April 29, 2007
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http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtml
You have to be fucking kidding me!
They are like gold diggers.

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-subcultured
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Phantom Penguin at 1:12PM, April 29, 2007
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That makes no damn sense. Thats like someone saying they own the internet and we have to pay royaltys because our comics are on it.
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ccs1989 at 1:43PM, April 29, 2007
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…What the hell? That's the biggest load of bull I've ever heard.
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skoolmunkee at 1:55PM, April 29, 2007
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I agree the RIAA is crazy, but I gotta say, the thread title is pretty inappropriate. :) Please watch that kind of thing, ok? we're a family friendly site!
  IT'S OLD BATMAN
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Terminal at 2:12PM, April 29, 2007
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They try to damage internet radio (“…fears that interactive radio services that give a limited degree of choice to listeners will adversely affect music retail sales”. Bull.) by charging more money every time some user listens to a song. Make matters worse the RIAA also wants a “$500 minimum payment for each Web channel” from each internet radio output. Then they start this deal “all songs on the internet is OURS” (paraphrased, but that's basically what it is). Wow, it's like a slap in the face and a kick in the balls to musicians and listeners. They are hurting music more than they are helping it.

Are they that insecure? Do they fear the internet so much that they want to take it down and screw everyone in the process? RedSlayer is right, fuck the RIAA.
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Red Slayer at 4:00PM, April 29, 2007
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Can't change the topic title.
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subcultured at 4:07PM, April 29, 2007
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this pisses me off, even if the artist don't want to collect the money…
Someone
IAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not.
J
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subcultured at 4:09PM, April 29, 2007
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do they own the internet? this is stupid!
the RIAA doesn't pay for streaming radio, but they still collect money and force artist to not get their music played on streaming radio!
Someone
Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free …


IT's all a scam! they're not doing it for the artists or protecting songs. they are doing it to make money. like taxing your hearing
Someone
If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties. you only get royalties if you own the sound recording copyright. If you are signed to a major label, chances are you don't. Even if you do own the copyright to your own recording of your own song, SoundExchange will collect Internet radio royalties for your song even if you don't want them to do so.
http://soundexchange.com/faq.html#b6


And what exactly is SoundExchange doing with the money they have collected for those hundreds of labels that must have thousands of songs? pocket them. PURE SCAM using the government

there's a clause somewhere that says if an artists doesn't collect the royalties after a certain time limit, they keep it.

what you can do:
http://www3.capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541


J
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rengori at 5:06PM, April 29, 2007
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I'm just going to laugh when they try to take this to court and lose.
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silentkitty at 6:45PM, April 29, 2007
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Wow, that's.. what? I can't even think of anything coherent to say about that, it's so ridiculous. “You put that song on the internet! Therefore, it's ours!” Wha?
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subcultured at 11:11PM, April 29, 2007
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i happen to like internet radio, it has less commercial and I get to be introduced to great artists that I would never hear on public radio. Internet radio is one of the many perks of the internet. why should we be taxed when even the webmaster/streamer wants to give us the content for free?

another site to save internet radio
http://www.savenetradio.org/
J
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Red Slayer at 11:50AM, April 30, 2007
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That's it,i'm getting an MP3 player, some of my favorite stations were suffering before all this RIAA scam.
If i want to find something new, i'll just check threads in music sub forums or start my own threads asking for recommendations.

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Hijuda at 7:43PM, April 30, 2007
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What… the… fuck? Is this even legal? Is this even possible? I'd think even the RIAA would have some amount of limits. They don't own the fucking internet, right?

Right?
It's a comic!

LOLOL LAMFAO
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Zenstrive at 10:14PM, April 30, 2007
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RIAA is one example of the bad things coming out of the lawyers overpopulated USA.
It is also an example why we don't hear good, evergreen musics coming out from RIAA anymore: they depends on inflated and overblown pieces of music that will be played on new musics dependant radio !
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snark at 4:16AM, May 1, 2007
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So…so…stupid…>_<
Its seriously crap like that which makes me feel ashamed to be law student
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lothar at 6:05AM, May 1, 2007
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“ALL YOUR SONG IS BELONG TO US”


that's about the mentality of this shit ~!

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subcultured at 6:40AM, May 1, 2007
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IMO the music industry is using the internet as a scapegoat. blaming them for lackluster sales. maybe they should make music to make music and not to support the image of musicians or make money off them. like fer example britney spears, jessica simpson, ashlee simpson…etc. they aren't true musicians!

serves the music industry right that people go to internet radio to find good music from unknown artists. the crap they shove down our throats makes me throw up.

and now that we've find a quick and easy way to get in contact with independent musicians, who love doing music just to do music. some group of people tied to the music industry is finding a way to tax that.

I call shinnanigans!
J
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mishi_hime at 6:07PM, May 1, 2007
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yep. but on a good note. i doubt half their threats will come to pass.
after all they said they'd stop all people from downloading music for free…
and as we all know. they kinda failed enforcing that one.

internet radio stations aren't the culprit.
the p2p stuff is really taking money away from them/artists.
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snark at 3:38AM, May 2, 2007
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subcultured
maybe they should make music to make music and not to support the image of musicians or make money off them. like fer example britney spears, jessica simpson, ashlee simpson…etc. they aren't true musicians!

Amen to that!
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Hijuda at 7:11PM, May 2, 2007
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On the topic of your thread title:

I think it's very fitting.
It's a comic!

LOLOL LAMFAO
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Hawk at 8:32PM, May 2, 2007
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subcultured
IMO the music industry is using the internet as a scapegoat. blaming them for lackluster sales. maybe they should make music to make music and not to support the image of musicians or make money off them. like fer example britney spears, jessica simpson, ashlee simpson…etc. they aren't true musicians!

serves the music industry right that people go to internet radio to find good music from unknown artists. the crap they shove down our throats makes me throw up.

and now that we've find a quick and easy way to get in contact with independent musicians, who love doing music just to do music. some group of people tied to the music industry is finding a way to tax that.

I call shinnanigans!

Though I find it hard to argue that the internet isn't cutting into music sales, I do agree with you. The music industry has turned into an image-driven crap machine of some sort. You can't just enjoy music for what it is anymore… they keep pushing divas and and starlets in our faces.

I haven't intentionally listened to the radio for about four years because I hate what it has become. The stations most resembling my musical taste keep playing tired old 90's songs I don't want to hear anymore. Meanwhile, the other stations are simply promoting the latest pretty faces and trend-followers ad nauseum. All the while, there are countless good musicians not being heard because stations are busy playing Nirvana, Usher, and Paris Hilton of all people. I guess you don't make as much money when you give the little guys a change, huh?
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ozoneocean at 9:20PM, May 2, 2007
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Agreed with Sub and Hawk. The music industry is killing itself. They did the same thing back in the 50's-60's when they paid radio stations to only play certain musicians. But in that instance they were taken to task.
These days it's endemic. They control the main means that music has of getting to us: TV and Radio. The big players TELL you want to buy! The same with big music outlets, they TELL you what to buy there as well. And that kills music because they either want to sell you shit (Jessica Simpson) or something tired and OLD (Aerosmith).
-there are exceptions; good small companies work away on the fringes and sometimes decent, interesting, or fun musicians get deals through the corporate sausage machine.

They hate the internet because they can't control it like they can with radio and TV. Good music can still get to you, while piracy undercuts their plans with the corporate sausage-singers (Madona, Britney Spears etc.)

Either way, the internet is a force for good if it bypasses or hurts that overly money focussed industry.
 
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marine at 11:38PM, May 2, 2007
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Get satellite radio, it doesn't suck.

Also if you DO get one, get Sirius. It has Howard Stern, while XM does not. It has other vastly superior channels (playboy, Bam Margera, Jim Brewer, tons of music channels of every genre) and is very inexpensive.
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