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getting rid of recess
7384395948urhfdjfrueruieieueue at 1:42PM, June 25, 2007
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Don't worry, once you get to junior high you get Gym as a regular class. It's like recess only way better. I think it's stupid and you're teaching your kids to be selfish and expect everything to go their way. Really, the only reason they're considering this is because of lawsuit happy parents who can't learn to deal with a problem on there own.
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lefarce at 1:48PM, June 25, 2007
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Back in mah' day we skinned our knees, played chickum' on our bikes, ate cleaning fluids, and skipped up to THREE bars on the jungle gym.

Great to know we're rasin' a nation full of . proud to be an American? You bet I am!

 
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Kohdok at 2:59PM, June 25, 2007
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Recess ends, and then parents will complain that their kids are getting too fat at school…
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dueeast at 4:22PM, June 25, 2007
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Recess was the only thing that kept my oldest son sane in elementary school. Kids that age need an outlet for the incredible energy they have and it's also good for developing their social skills.

Kids aren't robots or Borg drones. Someone needs to remind these school administrators what it means to be a kid.

Oh, wait, it is about avoiding the lawsuits, isn't it?

I think that is so pathetic, I can't even put it into words…

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Cookie Parker at 5:18PM, June 25, 2007
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I agree…that's absurd to get rid of exercise…I would think the teachers would revolt!!
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Hawk at 6:19PM, June 25, 2007
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I say let them get rid of recess. It'll only take a week or two of the children building up energy and restlessness before all the teachers want recess back again.
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marine at 2:51PM, July 4, 2007
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I know I hated grade school, but recess was my free time to do what I wanted how I wanted, no un-obvious rules (same as the internet, basicly) just don't hurt anybody else or go out of a specific area, and you're good to go. I had a million games of tag or freeze tag in grade school on rough pavement that if you miss stepped and fell on hurt. On the jungle gym that we got to use, I remember it had gravels to help you out if you fell. Nothign beat having a scraped knee and seeing rocks inside your open cut and bleeding leg. Its what made school fun for me, how could they even suggest getting rid of it?
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ozoneocean at 3:10PM, July 4, 2007
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Kids need that time to socialise as well as exercise. One wonders if the people who suggest this sort of thing even know much about life? Maybe they think you can program children…? Learning is important, but childhood isn't just for learning what teachers tell you. This is moronic, just like that parents that steal their children's childhoods by forcing them to “learn” from an extremely young age. Any child can be trained that way, but what you get at the end is an underdeveloped adult… Someone who needs a lot of catching up to do.

Anyway, yeah, it's stupid. Play is just as important as mathematics, reading, writing, history etc.
 
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Phantom Penguin at 3:34PM, July 4, 2007
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Yes lets get rid of the best exercise grade schoolers have! Great idea.

And lets have the explosive amounts of energy created by a grade schooler cooped up in a class all day!

Brilliant!
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DemonSaintDante at 5:15PM, July 4, 2007
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Yah i remember seeing this on the news… it started because teachers only saw kids standing outsides and talking… When did teaching people to socialize become a bad thing?

Also I am mad at all these schools putting up safety playgrounds… my old school was mad of wood steel and rubber… and we loved it… nows its this cheap little plastic thing that kinder gardeners get bored with.
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ccs1989 at 7:03PM, July 4, 2007
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I think “frivilous lawsuits” is the new definition of the American dream. Only it never benefits anyone except lawyers and those who make the money, and it hurts society. If the next generation is screwed up and socially inept we know why.
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TrueNamu at 7:23PM, July 4, 2007
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Exactly,I mean the getting rid of recess is just another trend train everyone's trying to jump on,like the sueing McDonalds and every other fast food company,I mean where does it stop? Maybe the emphasis on “freedom” makes it that way,but how “free” are we actually? That's another thing to think about eh?
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DemonSaintDante at 6:45AM, July 5, 2007
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Kohdok at 7:25PM, July 5, 2007
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Here's a joke:

Question: How many Americans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: That's not funny, we'll sue!
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Argent_Nightmare at 4:01AM, July 6, 2007
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Hmph. My playground was a parkinglot at a catholic school. We played REAL games that kids of the same generation wouldn't have DREAMT of playing. Like “Peg” and “Stone Wall”
Pointless ways to hurt ourselves and each other, really. Good fun.
See… but we weren't stupid children, either. When one of us went home with a black eye, we didn't complain to our parents. Our parents would hand us an ice pack and ask us if we had fun, and if we saw the tennis ball coming or not.

I feel great pity for America's rapidly fading, hardcore past. Soon, even the Catholic schools will not have violent games and borderline-psychotic fun.

Pff. I am raising my own children the way I was raised… Fun can be had anywhere if you're creative, pain is an illusion, and the weak need to stand aside or get knocked down.

Such is natural selection.
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DemonSaintDante at 5:00AM, July 6, 2007
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Hmph. My playground was a parkinglot at a catholic school. We played REAL games that kids of the same generation wouldn't have DREAMT of playing. Like “Peg” and “Stone Wall”
Pointless ways to hurt ourselves and each other, really. Good fun.
See… but we weren't stupid children, either. When one of us went home with a black eye, we didn't complain to our parents. Our parents would hand us an ice pack and ask us if we had fun, and if we saw the tennis ball coming or not.

I feel great pity for America's rapidly fading, hardcore past. Soon, even the Catholic schools will not have violent games and borderline-psychotic fun.

Pff. I am raising my own children the way I was raised… Fun can be had anywhere if you're creative, pain is an illusion, and the weak need to stand aside or get knocked down.

Such is natural selection.

and thats the way it should be.
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Hawk at 9:57AM, July 6, 2007
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I think “frivilous lawsuits” is the new definition of the American dream. Only it never benefits anyone except lawyers and those who make the money, and it hurts society. If the next generation is screwed up and socially inept we know why.

I think that's one of the saddest trends I've seen lately. I'm not sure where the blame lies… the few but persistent get-rich-quick slimeballs, or army of ambulance-chasing litigation-hungry lawyers we've created with our law system. But it's really sad, because that's something America is becoming known for and it makes me sick.
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DemonSaintDante at 7:16AM, July 7, 2007
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yeah people will sue for anything today… There is this lawyer on the TV that goes “when doctors make mistake we make them pay!” and I'm just like. “ITS CALLED A MISTAKE FOR A REASON!” Its not like the doctor was neglectful or anything, somethings just cant be helped. Yeah a little off topic but the whole lawyer thing got me.
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Nicotine at 9:37AM, July 7, 2007
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I don't think there's anything wrong with exercise, but I think recess was a waste of time when I was in elementry.

I mean, we got recess and gym class in elementry school. Is that nessesary? The time spent during recess can be time spent teaching more things to kids. So kids get bored in class. Teachers should learn to make learning more fun. That's what school is for, learning, not running around for an hour and a half a day like they wanted us too and babysitting kids. When your kid comes back from school, they have even more time to play. Heck, it's not like you get tons and tons of homework in elementry school.

Taking away 30 minutes of running and swinging and whatever a day is not destroying childhood. What's destroying childhood in America today are parents that don't spend personal time with their children on the weekends or as often as possible, use TV to babysit, and don't take their child's schooling seriously until high school.
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Vagabond at 11:24AM, July 7, 2007
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Can you take a photo of your face the first time that you actually interact with children? Something tells me it'll be priceless.
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Nicotine at 11:44AM, July 7, 2007
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Can you take a photo of your face the first time that you actually interact with children? Something tells me it'll be priceless.

I love children, and I play with my younger relatives all the time as well as the kids of family friends. My mother works at a daycare; I go there all the time. I never said I didn't like children.

I don't see how that connects to recess time.
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Vagabond at 12:24PM, July 7, 2007
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Because as you should know, kids have the energy of 10 men running inside them. To coop them up for 8 hours at a time is utterly ridiculous.

Furthermore, you should know that children need unorganized play. It helps them with their cognitive and social development much better than reading a book ever will.

Lastly, as I'm sure you can back me up on this, gym class is for physical education. (it's… kinda in the name) Recess is for taking a break from all the crap schools and teachers force on you and being allowed to do your own thing. And I don't know about you, but even growing up next to a creek in the suburbs, I still didn't have a lot of room to play whatever game I wanted to, nevermind not having enough kids to organize a game with. So why would you want to take that measly 30 minutes away from kids where they have an opportunity to do these things?

If anything, recess should be increased.
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maritalbliss at 2:34PM, July 7, 2007
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My first year teaching, I taught 4th grade.

I was ACTUALLY told NOT to teach science or social studies. (They wanted us to spend the entire year teaching from this stupid manual that focused on “test taking” skills. I ignored them and did what I wanted. In February of that school year, all the 4th grade classes went on a field trip (to the Natural History Museum) and the kids from my class were the only one's able to answer the questions…The parent's figured it out and there was a HUGE toodo…School board got involved.

Their solution was, after lunch…I had to take all the 4th graders that scored well on the “mock state test” and teach them all they had missed (plus, my regular students–that had already learned it…So, I had to come up with new and unboring ways to deliever the material. While the 15…Yes…15 kids that didn't pass it were split up between the other three teachers that were of “cookie cutter” curriculum.

I had over seventy kids…With no help. (I ended up getting teacher of the year…Which rocked…But, I left that district after the year was over.)

When I taught junior high, they wouldn't even let the kids take an hour out of Friday's for peprallys. I couldn't believe it. But, again…cut's into time we could be teachin' ‘em how to take a test.

So, yeah…I’m not suprised recess is under fire. Which is fuckin' ridiculous. Kids need a break and a chance to be social…Heck, most elementary schools don't even let kids talk in lunch anymore. No child left behind my ass. I abhor the state of public education in the United States and most parents don't do a thing about it…Teacher's aren't allowed to have a union…I'm glad I'm out of it and to anyone that has kids out there…Best of Luck.
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DemonSaintDante at 5:59PM, July 7, 2007
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Yeah i remember hearing about not being able to talk during lunch. Its because one kid (1/how many kids) was choking and the teachers almost didn't hear it because of all the talking. There is something wrong with this country lol.
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Kohdok at 5:03AM, July 8, 2007
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There is something wrong with this country lol.

It's because we're trying to manufacture kids rather than raise them.
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Hyptosis at 8:29AM, July 14, 2007
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Yeah, we weren't allowed to talk at lunch when I was in school, like, 8 years ago >_> And recess? We had one fifteen minute one. It was awesome. /sarcasm
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blntmaker at 3:21PM, July 14, 2007
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Too bad about RECESS…I like that cartoon. Oh wait - it's ALREADY cancelled. You meant recess recess…Ahem.

I remember a few years back when I was working in an affluent district that will not be mentioned here - there was an lawsuit from parents about the exercise equipment. You know, the monkey bars and jungle gym…The material used to make the bars (or perhaps the paint) had cancer causing properties in it…ABC covered this story for weeks until there was, as always, a settlement.

I say that to echo the sentiment of the lawsuit happy society we live in…I digress on the topic at hand…

We live in health conscious times. We live in the days where you can option out your fries for a fruit snack when you get a combo at a fast-food restaurant or a soda for a bottle of water. WHY would they want to get rid of recess on the elementary level?

I mean, it's interesting when kids make a fuss about P.E. in secondary level education - not suiting up, refusing to put in effort, teen angst about NOT conforming (geez)…getting ‘C’s or even ‘F’s…IN P.E.????? It will set a bad precedence for the principal of healthy living, better hygiene..learning how to work cooperatively and what about the kinesthetic-happy kids?

For most kids in elementary school, if you DON'T have them move around every few minutes (kinesthetics) - it will stunt their learning process. EVERY teacher who got a multi-subject credential in the 90s and on learned that! It's a ideology that isn't going away anytime soon.

No mi gusta on getting rid of recess!
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Drifterxgs at 2:34PM, July 22, 2007
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Well I think that recess needs to be a part of school life in general, I mean if you look back to your days in class wouldnt you liked to have had at least 15 minutes in your day besides lunch to sit with your friends, relax and get some stuff done or simply enjoy yourself, maybe have a little less stress or hell even play a game or something. Some people may argue that not everyone liked recess, but even if your not socially orientated or kinesthetic, you could always get in some reading or writing, relax a little bit, stretch and meet new people. Even now adults have figured out how to take recess in different ways. Water cooler and smoking breaks, taking a fiver in the bathroom the get your head straight or a siesta or just a break, all sorts of things point back that its not just about exercise but giving the kids a little break in which they arent cramming their face full of snacks at lunch but letting them run around, smile a bit more(which in the teenage years of life, maybe should be done more often as gloomy as all of them are now) and letting them not worry about testing and norms and homework, which may in turn let them actually function better. I lost recess during middle school and it always rankled me in that they could shunt kids into an oven of a deteriorating school in the middle of kansas spring in a brick school with no a/c, drill our heads with facts by underpaid overstressed teachers, let us beat the heck out of eachother and generally run amock but giving us a fifteen minute hiatus on all of this was a big no-no. Odd viewpoints to me, but I'm only a teacher to be, what do I know.
Btw I think sections of this are referenced on retrocrush in their recess game sections and deadly playground section(good psychotic fun!)
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Strikenmist at 3:20PM, July 26, 2007
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I think recess is a good thing for kids. It stops them from becoming fat. I play a lot of sports already to stay balanced
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zero rose at 10:50PM, Aug. 11, 2007
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Recess is a way for children to release their energy and most of all, build some social skills in a free enviroment because kids without social skills are not fun to be around. I should know, I had one as a classmate my sophomore year. >_<
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