….No one has truely tried to understand the others position because to them it seems ridiculous, so to speak. I merely want to understand what the fly in the oinment is…for you and me and others. So forgive the me my desire to define these terms first. My personal beliefs need not enter the discussion. All you need to know is that I believe there is a god.
Look I understand being jaded about other conversations. But to me, if someone asks “what are facts” and “what is truth,” then asking the same question (in a different way) back to that person seems legitimate, not unfair or loaded. I find that a pool of examples can help clarify defintions and terms far easier than abstract semantic discussions. That's all.
arteestxAncient Greeks and even some modern believers believe in Zeus…its no different than any other person who believe in a god. I have no idea what you are asking for here… That's why the terms need to be discussed and defined.
What is your interpretation of claims about Zeus compared to claims about God?
I do think there is a distinction. The characteristics of Zeus are much different than the God of the bible (at least the New Testament). Unless you want to equate the characteristic of Zeus raping women and say that God shares that quality, I think there are differences between gods. So here's my position.
I don't believe in Odin
I don't believe in Thor
I don't believe in Zeus
I don't believe in Isis
I don't believe in Kokopelli
I don't believe in Ra
I don't believe in Radegast, Hermes, Lahar, Veles, Kus, Rod, Honos, Utu, Shamash, Hades, Aken, Bata, Osiris, Ha, Pluto, Apollo, Heka, Eeyeekalduk, Xochipilli, Himerus, Kamadeva, Siebog, Nezha, Gwydion, Bamapana, Huh, Meni, Kala, Fabulinus, Mimir, Yuanshi Tianzun, Jabru, Mot, Namtar, Wepwawet, Rudra, Saa, Aker, Petbe, Vidar, Kaus, Dhara, Zempat, Sumugan, Enki, Ash, Buxenus, Sucellus, Viridios, Shara, Laran, Ares, Huitzilopochtli, Dionysus, Thoth, Ganesha, Dagr, Lugus, Crom Cruach, Aah, Hilal, Mensis, Amm, Juthrbog, Tecciztecatl, Chandra, Alignak, Mummu, Enki, Omai, Qat, Rod, Bumba, Gukumatz, Cghene, Con-Tici Viracocha, or any of the other thousand gods that have been worshiped over the past millenia.
I think the stories about these gods can be very revealing and helpful, but I don't believe these stories to be literally true. I imagine that you do not pray to any of these gods, and don't know about or literally believe their stories either. So we share 99.99999% of our disbelief in gods. So I just want to know on what basis you might disbelieve other gods but believe in the one you do.