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how long does it take for you to do a page?
Kristen Gudsnuk at 6:37PM, March 5, 2007
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When I think of all the pages I have to do before I'm finally finished with my comic, it terrifies me. Mostly because it takes me so long to complete one page!!
I usually spend somewhere around an hour and a half or so penciling, and then it takes me about 40 minutes to ink (I just discovered a new method! It used to take me hours!) and then I spend around an hour fixing the glaring mistakes in my drawing, and THEN I tone, which takes maybe three or four hours.
Which means… around seven hours PER PAGE?!?!?!!!! you can hardly tell, too!! I mean, my comic should look great with that kind of dedication..!

erm, woops, tangent. ^_^ so, how long does it take you guys to do a page? (mine's a rough estimate, of course.)
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Generic Human at 6:42PM, March 5, 2007
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hmm…it takes me about three hours to pencil a page of GandS, then about an hour to ink it all in, and then about six hours in photoshop to colour it. And you can't tell. It looks average. Oh well, I'm just a slow worker.
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subcultured at 6:44PM, March 5, 2007
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i stopped counting, cause that makes it more frustrating =P
J
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subcultured at 6:46PM, March 5, 2007
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one thing i notice myself doing is just staring at my page for a long time until there's like a moment of inspiration and i'll ride that out until it's gone.
J
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Kristen Gudsnuk at 6:54PM, March 5, 2007
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subcultured, count!! I'm especially curious about how long it takes you!!! (not meant to sound creepy) ….
heh!
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Chris chris at 7:03PM, March 5, 2007
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WEll, to sketch a page it could take up to an hour. To ink a page completly (back ground included) 2 or so hours. To completely color a page… that's almost all day… during class even. XD
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subcultured at 7:29PM, March 5, 2007
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actually it depends on how much detail is needed on each page.
I've been getting faster by practicing speed painting a lot.
it's a sure way to learn a lot of new things really fast.
J
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acadia at 8:33PM, March 5, 2007
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Um, I don't do pencils, but I do an initial sketch which takes anywhere from 5-30 minutes. After that its the darker outline (I guess you'd call it inking) and that takes about 30-60 minutes. Then I color in the backgrounds, which takes about an hour. Then I color the characters, which takes about half an hour. After that it's layout and lettering which takes 10 minutes tops. So overall, around 2 and a half hours.

If the comic ever seems rushed, that's because it is – college takes its toll.

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Eviltwinpixie at 8:54PM, March 5, 2007
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Oh goodness, 6 hours for a simple page with no shading. Another 3-4 hours for shading. I am sloooooooooooow. Speed is something I'd LOVE to improve on, but I'm not sure how to do outlines or flat colours in Photoshop faster than I already do. Any secret techniques would be great. ;)

I've vastly improved my speed when it comes to shading, though. :)
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WingNut at 9:28PM, March 5, 2007
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Eviltwinpixie
Oh goodness, 6 hours for a simple page with no shading. Another 3-4 hours for shading. I am sloooooooooooow. Speed is something I'd LOVE to improve on, but I'm not sure how to do outlines or flat colours in Photoshop faster than I already do. Any secret techniques would be great. ;)

I've vastly improved my speed when it comes to shading, though. :)

Don't worry lass, my pages take me a good 6-8 hours of solid work. A good secret that has helped immensely to speed up the process is to make a color sheet, which is a sheet with all characters, all colors associated with them, and a few shades and highlights of each color. Like so!



VERY useful, yes indeed. ;D

-W

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Akumyo at 1:21AM, March 6, 2007
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It takes me about 3 to 4 hours per page for my comic.

The draft only takes about 15 minutes to a half hour.

The majority of the time is spent coloring. I don't do inking, I don't really care for it. I prefer a more “painterly” style in my work.

I've been trained as a professional animator, so I'm pretty experienced in the speed department. Shooting out reams of paper per day can do that to a person.

I think that if I create some character sheets and swatches for my comic, things will go a bit faster. Unfortunately I'm too busy with schoolwork to really getting around to doing the side work for my comic.
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Kristen Gudsnuk at 1:26AM, March 6, 2007
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whoa Wingnut, what happened on Zak's hoodie? (jk!)
iinteresting.
my comic is b&w though, so I don't even have the excuse of colors taking me a long time to do. When I actually color my pictures, it takes me hours and hours.

although my most recent color-picture (if you click on my sig it'll show up) only took me… like 5 minutes to color. for obvious reasons ^_^
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kitsunesan at 5:47AM, March 6, 2007
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sketching and all, I spend 1 hour watching my piece of paper…30 minutes to fo positions and all…then inking 30 minutes XD…goes to a total of 2 hours YAY!! XD
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josif at 8:31AM, March 6, 2007
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Mine take 3-4 hours but im easily distracted so most of that time is just browsing the Internet or watching TV.
Your Reading Skills Have Increased By Two Points.
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subcultured at 8:39AM, March 6, 2007
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you'd be surprise my painting part takes less time to do than sketching and setting up the panel.
J
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Tantz Aerine at 12:42PM, March 6, 2007
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About 6 hours unless there's complicated backgrounds… then it goes around 8. I break it down over two days lately though, or else my other tasks will form a giant monster and badger me. XD
 
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Adariel at 4:28PM, March 6, 2007
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I sketch on weekends, thats 1-2 hours, i ink on mondays, thats 1 hour, then color and stuff thats around 2-3 hours, thats 6. but i cant do it all in one sitting, i have short attention spans.
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Kristen Gudsnuk at 5:19PM, March 6, 2007
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haha I have a really bad attention span for everything *but* art… I've been known to draw or paint for like 8 hours at a time without stopping…
(OCD?)
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kingofsnake at 9:48PM, March 6, 2007
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anywhere between 8 and 50 hours for one of the totally finished pages like this one

Usually somewhere in the middle though, high twenties to low thirties.

Thats just art too, that doesn't include scripting. But scripting happens over a period of a couple months so it's hard to nail down a good timeframe for that.
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Kristen Gudsnuk at 12:00AM, March 7, 2007
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50… hours??
???
that's so intense!
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kingofsnake at 12:39PM, March 7, 2007
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It usually depends alot on how intricate the backrounds are, and how many characters are on panel at once, and how many panels there are. A detailed background can take me 20 hours easy, and then each character takes me 20 minutes to draw and 40 minutes to ink (more if I'm doing something else WHILE I'm working, which I almost always am, even if it's just watching TV). So a four panel comic with 2 characters in each panel and a background I already have made up (like our living room) is 8 hours (plus another hour or so to add in text and tweak layers.) Now make that a six panel comic with 3 people in the last two panels and one cut-away to outside where I need to do an outdoors background and you're into the mid thirties already.

The page I'm working on right now has a bar background, with 4 layers and details on each layer, and a minimum of two people on panel at once, and an extra angle panel.

Its taking forever
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silentkitty at 8:01PM, March 8, 2007
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Depends on how complicated the page is. =P On average, I'd say:

Pencils - ~30 minutes (my pencils are VERY rough and often look nothing like the finished page).
Inks - 2 - 2.5 hours (this is where I actually go in and add detail)
Colors - 4 - 6 hours (depending on the page)
Lettering - 30 minutes

I love Photoshop because it has SWATCHES! I have swatch files saved for every project I'm working on, and good god are they a timesaver. Anyone that uses Photoshop (or any other program that has swatches) and colors comics should most definitely be using swatches. It's a fast, awesome, easy way to keep your colors consistant - and you can even mail swatch files to people if you need to make sure they're using the same colors as you. =)
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Lace at 4:43PM, March 12, 2007
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For me, the Inking is the part that takes the longest when it comes to my manga. Before i got manga studio, inking used to take me at least a week in painter. Then I had to constantly undo bad lines. with manga studio theres auto line fix so id ont ahve to worry about that much anymore. I think i take around 1 to 2 hours inking… not to mention my pencils which take around an hour. Toning doesnt take me too long. Maybe around 45 minutes to an hour and lettering… PSHAW! I finish that in around 5 minutes or so cuz i type fast. But if you consider chosing the fonts too.. that tacks on another 3 minutes to that five.. so around 8 minutes. I finish pages in around 5 or 6 hours depending on how I feel. I just get lazy and split everything up and dont do it all at once cuz i have many deterances… such as mmorpgs… which i play as reference for my manga. Thats the fun part!

Well thats it!

~*Lace*~


*~Lace~*
Believe in your dreams and your determination will last you a lifetime…
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Peipei at 10:45AM, March 13, 2007
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Well, it takes me about 2-3 hours to draw all the panels and pictures, 1 hour to ink, 5 minutes to scan, resize, and edit, and another 3-4 hours to layer/color the entire page ^^; It's pretty time consuming, since I update almost everyday after work :3

I like Pie!
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F_Allen at 8:59AM, March 14, 2007
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it takes me about five hours from start to finish. But i probably should do some sort of sketches first instead of jumping straight in with the mouse pen and photoshop. I dont plan anything on paper, just sit back and see it all comes outta of my head.
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AQua_ng at 10:45AM, March 14, 2007
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It used to take me about 10-13 hours, but I've manage to cut that down to 5. I'm so efficient, I should be German.

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Priceman at 2:53PM, March 17, 2007
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Average of 7 hours if i do it all in one sitting. It used to be alot shorter, but the script I made ended around page 8 (when college started). So I'm basically going from my imagination.

I guess the longest part would have to be retracing everything in Manga Studio. I sketch first, then ink, then erase the wild lines, scan, and then reink in MS. Kinda repetative imo.
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acadia at 4:25PM, March 17, 2007
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I did my latest page in 4 hours. Sketch to finish.

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ipokino at 5:05AM, March 18, 2007
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The joy of CGI. Once I have created my charaters–and each can take several hours to refine, I simply have to pose them. Again with backgrounds, I tend to create entire sets, ie a complete house with all rooms finished, as opposed to a single room, but once the set is complete it is just a matterof moving the characters around it. I also use digital photos of scenes and sets to make this quicker and even more realistic. Post work, or tweaking the final panel or page can really chew up time, so I try and render with as much accuracy as I can up front to avoid a lot of post work. I use MSPaint by the way. Lettering is a snap, I have a Paint page called ‘Boxes’ that holds various shapes, sizes and styles of lettering balloons. These I just paste in where needed. I really try to keep myself to two hours per page.
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ozoneocean at 5:20AM, March 18, 2007
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My pages:
100% done on the computer.
They take days, literally. It's all sketched and painted with a big tablet, but I get the effect I want in the end ^^
I suppose the best bit comes from having a long period to think it out. I approach each page the way I would a full painting in Acrylics or oils, and along the way I can change colour or shading choices… I usually always come up with some interesting art decisions when making a page.
 
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