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Inking ur comic with ur computer
Imagine at 7:01AM, Oct. 11, 2006
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Yeah, people told me there were programs that easily ink ur comic instantly. However, I tried Adobe Streamline and that programme ain't worth shit. Half of my lines are just being erased, and I tried every setting. Plus, I have no money, so i can't buy the programme, so i can't even save my inked comics with it.

So. Dear gentlemen, ladies, could you PLEASE take away my frustrations and provide me with tips, tricks, programmes, etcetera, that actually WORK. (And don't bother if you wanted to advise me with Adobe illustrator, cuz there's no way i'ma contour all those friggin lines i draw)

Please help a fellow comicwriter.
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Rich at 4:09PM, Oct. 11, 2006
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Dude, there is NO program that will ink your comic instantly. You just need to do it manually like everyone else.
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carly_mizzou at 4:54PM, Oct. 11, 2006
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cringes at the use of “ur”

well there are several ways you can digitally ink your work, here's the most basic using photoshop:

1. scan in; under images open the levels pallate
2. depending on the work turn up the shadow low end/turn down the midtones. get it so it's as black and white as possible
3. then go back to your image, CTRL A (select all) CTRL X (cut) paste the entire image onto a new layer.
4. on that layer, open the channels pallate at the bottom of the diologue box click load as a channel (the dotted line circle) once you've made the selection, hit delete
5. on the layers palate select preserve transparancy. You should be left with a blank background layer (to color on) and a second layer with your black outlines, on a transparency.

and I swear to god if you reply and use “ur” ….
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Hawk at 4:58PM, Oct. 11, 2006
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I ink in Flash. I import the pencilled comic into Flash, create a layer above it, and ink away using my Wacom stylus and the brush tool with pen pressure enabled. It`s not “instant”, but it makes great lines. It takes practice, too.
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Imagine at 12:47AM, Oct. 12, 2006
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Thanks folks. I'll try the photoshop thingie (since i have no flash)

What's wrong with ur? :P
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hat at 12:34PM, Oct. 12, 2006
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Well inkscape, a free program, can vectorize your work with a click of the mouse.
I think that's as close as ‘inking instantly’ as you're gonna get.
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gigatwo at 12:44PM, Oct. 12, 2006
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A couple clicks really. It's a cool program, but it's probably simaler to adobe streamline. Personally, I find inkscape usefull.
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Aeon at 8:23PM, Oct. 12, 2006
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The problem with “ur” is that, even pheonetically, it's still making a sound like “er” and not at all like “your,” which is, I assume, what you're going for.

The real downside is that it immediately makes any reader think you're to ignorant to type properly…

That aside, I pretty much agree with the other posters. Digital inking as about time and patience. Even most primitive photo-editing software has some sort of tool you can use to draw a line with your mouse. You'll never get the results you can with a tablet and the latest version of photoshop, painter, or flash, but no matter what program you use, it will take time and practice to get good looking results.

The biggest problem I've had with trying to use photoshop layer and channel tools to create an ink layer is those obnoxious pixel ‘floaties’ you get around the darkened lines. It's also very hard for me to preserve lineweight doing so, since much of my penciled lineweight is in greyscale. It just ended up being easier and faster for me to ink over it digitally by hand, rather than trying to get ‘shortcut’ methods to make my lines look the way I wanted them to.
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Imagine at 12:59AM, Oct. 13, 2006
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Allright, I'll try and never use ‘ur’ anymore. :-P
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subcultured at 12:09PM, Oct. 13, 2006
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when I used to ink I used painter. it mimics real media
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f251/subcultured2/digital%20inks/sorcereinkwip3.jpg
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Ferretshark at 5:31PM, Oct. 13, 2006
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Aeon
The problem with “ur” is that, even pheonetically, it's still making a sound like “er” and not at all like “your,” which is, I assume, what you're going for.

The real downside is that it immediately makes any reader think you're to ignorant to type properly…


Ouch. Gotta be careful when correcting one's grammar. Especially when you make a typo yourself in your lecturing. You misspelled a word: It's “pho·neti·cal·ly”. Everyone knows what “ur” meant- it's only symantics. If you're going to correct one's use of messaging shortcuts (like ‘ur’), you'd best set an example yourself by being skilled with verbiage in all forms of writing.

L8R.







Ferretshark
Animator/published illustrator
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skoolmunkee at 3:33AM, Oct. 15, 2006
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Ferretshark
Everyone knows what “ur” meant- it's only symantics.

Haha, you mean semantics?

As demonstrated, internet forum grammar correction becomes a cycle that never ends; perhaps we should consider stopping the cycle in this thread and focus on the inking question. :)
  IT'S OLD BATMAN
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kingofsnake at 1:55PM, Oct. 15, 2006
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carly_mizzou
cringes at the use of “ur”

and I swear to god if you reply and use “ur” ….

when ever someone uses “ur” instead of “your” I like to pronounce it phonetically in my head as I read the post. Instant comic gold.
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Aeon at 10:34AM, Oct. 16, 2006
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Okay, okay. I've learned my lesson.

I solemnly vow never to be snarky to those too lazy to try to type properly, especially after drinking half-a bottle of wine, late at night.

;)
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Imagine at 3:37PM, Oct. 18, 2006
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Yeah yeah, blame it on the wine 8-) :P
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Knuckles at 6:54PM, Oct. 20, 2006
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*shrugs* I just ink the old fashioned way. It takes about an hour or so, depending on the complexity of the page, but it's a sacrifice I have to do to get the desired results.

…besides, I'm too poor to afford a tablet like everyone else :P

Myth Xaran (manga) - http://www.drunkduck.com/Myth_Xaran
Exodus Studios (Games & More) - http://www.exodus-studio.com
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ozoneocean at 4:29AM, Oct. 21, 2006
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Knuckles
…besides, I'm too poor to afford a tablet like everyone else :P
That can be a fool's ecconomy though. Tablets cost a lot but can actually save you money in the long run. At the start you save on inks and paint. But as you get better and you move to %100 digital, you save on paper, earasers, pencils, and storage space! Even tansporting, copying, altering, editing, and dsiplaying your work at all stages is better.

But it does mean that you're more tied to the computer, which is a disadvantage. And it means a bit extra disk space eventually too…

 
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Knuckles at 10:23AM, Oct. 21, 2006
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It has its pros and cons. It would defintely take me a year or more just to get used to it… I tried workign with a table before and it was uber awkward, trying to draw a simple picture that takes me a few seconds to draw on a piece of paper.

Myth Xaran (manga) - http://www.drunkduck.com/Myth_Xaran
Exodus Studios (Games & More) - http://www.exodus-studio.com
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subcultured at 12:16PM, Oct. 21, 2006
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After you get used to it, it goes pretty fast
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Knuckles at 5:16PM, Oct. 21, 2006
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Yeah, the problem is getting used to it – which will take me a year's time or more :P

Myth Xaran (manga) - http://www.drunkduck.com/Myth_Xaran
Exodus Studios (Games & More) - http://www.exodus-studio.com
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Mark at 10:09PM, Oct. 21, 2006
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Knuckles
I tried workign with a table before and it was uber awkward

I dunno about you, but a table might just sound like something really hard to work with
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Knuckles at 12:19AM, Oct. 22, 2006
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Hey, watch them tables, especially art tables. They are evil spawns >_<

Myth Xaran (manga) - http://www.drunkduck.com/Myth_Xaran
Exodus Studios (Games & More) - http://www.exodus-studio.com
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subcultured at 6:37PM, Oct. 22, 2006
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Knuckles
Yeah, the problem is getting used to it – which will take me a year's time or more :P

I remember after I bought the tablet, I didn't touch it for a year after a lot of unsuccessful attempt on drawing with it.
J
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Knuckles at 6:55PM, Oct. 22, 2006
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Knuckles
Yeah, the problem is getting used to it – which will take me a year's time or more :P

I remember after I bought the tablet, I didn't touch it for a year after a lot of unsuccessful attempt on drawing with it.

Well that sounds encouraging :P

Myth Xaran (manga) - http://www.drunkduck.com/Myth_Xaran
Exodus Studios (Games & More) - http://www.exodus-studio.com
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Zenstrive at 6:58PM, Oct. 22, 2006
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i tried to ink an entire 600 dpi, a4 sized art using grapphire 4 graphic tablet on a 100% zoom. Boy, that was time consuming and hand-torturing….
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Rich at 9:50PM, Oct. 22, 2006
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Zenstrive
i tried to ink an entire 600 dpi, a4 sized art using grapphire 4 graphic tablet on a 100% zoom. Boy, that was time consuming and hand-torturing….

The trick is to ink it with the vector tool, and then to touch up that with the tablet.

Or you could ink in flash. That always works well too.
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Krensada at 7:20AM, Dec. 14, 2006
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My Comic after page 7 is 100% tablet. and so is my avatar.
Click on this banner…you know you want to!:

The bunny died upon entering my signature.
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acadia at 3:24PM, Dec. 18, 2006
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All of my comics have been exclusively tablet. I've only been using it for about a month. It doesn't take a year to get used to, honestly. (Sure my art isnt any good, but hey, you take what you can get. My tablet isnt the problem, it's my own inadequacy). Theyre much quicker on the learning curve than, say, learning to ink for real by hand with a quill pen.

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Scott Story at 8:07PM, Dec. 18, 2006
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It takes a day at most to get used to a tablet. If you can use a pencil, you can use a tablet. It's the same skill set.
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Green_Tangerine at 9:13PM, Dec. 18, 2006
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It takes a day at most to get used to a tablet. If you can use a pencil, you can use a tablet. It's the same skill set.

I disagree… While the ‘muscle memory’ used is basically the same, there's way less drag on a tablet, not to mention getting used to looking up at a screen while drawing, instead of on the paper.

Hence me sticking to using my tablet just for coloring…
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