ozoneocean
Actually the attitude you express demeans women more than any other: it says they they are inferior and must be treated like children, protected and cosseted from real life because they're fragile and unable to take it. Not one inch of their naked flesh should ever be shown because their entire sex is lessened in value each time…
People should try examining that idea and explode it for what it is: Overprotective patriarchal, control. Keep the womyns covered, unseen and feeling dirty about their bodies! :P
Not healthy. ;)
I sort of agree and disagree–the patriarchy is a problem, but I don't think pointing out the way this comic objectifies women inherently means someone is implying that women are inferior. Similarly, if someone's around you talking up a bunch of racist junk, arguing with them doesn't mean you're racist for “assuming racial minorities can't defend themselves.” I know a guy who considers himself a feminist and tells his girlfriend not to use the word “bitch” to refer to other women, and I think that's taking it a bit far.
I don't think women need me to defend them, but I also don't think they'd object to me saying something when I'm uncomfortable with how they're portrayed in this or that. It's how I was raised. Happy medium, kind of thing.
As much as I hate to use South Park as a piece of evidence, there's a scene in their Paris Hilton episode where teenage girls are having “slut kits” of clothing and sex-related items sold to them and Paris Hilton's made into a role model. One character objects and says they're letting themselves be objectified, and is immediately berated for being sexist. “If a man wants to have sex, it's cool, but if a woman wants to have sex it's ‘WRONNNGGGG’” they say, as teenage girls rub their buttocks against his groin and beg him to buy them things. He relents.
So all I'm saying is there's a key distinction between women who are proud of their bodies and their sexuality and women who think it's the only thing that makes them valuable. Because that IS demeaning, and does hurt people, and I've seen it do so.
Besides, as long as we have posts like this:
kyupol
'demeaning women' is overrated. If a comic supposedly does that (IMO, the above comic has nothing demeaning. In fact it portrays women as beautiful and capable creatures) there is a big big fuss.
What about demeaning men? Wheres the big fuss about that?
Gender equality? Anyone?
Feminists would have to be silly to refuse any help ;)