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kyupol at 5:56PM, Jan. 15, 2009
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Why the hell do they have to be put in custody for?!? They're not committing crimes!!! They did not choose to be named that way!!!

3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell from their home Tuesday.

And now what could be going in the minds of these kids as they're sent to pedophile foster parents who would molest them for days and days upon end.

And the irony of it, the Nazis were shipped into the USA after world war 2. And the companies who made the gas for the concentration camps are still in business. (See project paperclip, IG Farben)

Nazism wasn't defeated. Nazism is alive and well.

The hypocricy of it all.

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Aurora Moon at 6:59PM, Jan. 15, 2009
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I completely disagree with what the social workers did.

Yes, Neo-Nazism is an horrible thing… and they're clearly racists no matter how they say they aren't. But… from what I know of them, they clearly haven't emotionally/physically/mentally/sexually abused their kids. So they have no real solid ground to take the kids away from their parents.

yes, they could claim that the Neo-nazi parents were fostering an “culture of hate”…

but you know something? I've known plenty of kids with racist parents who was completely horrified by the way their own parents thought and were embarrassed to even be seen with them.

So Racist parents doesn't always equal racist kids. you know?

Yes, there's the concern of how much their parents could influence their kids' prejudices towards certain things/people. But I'm sure that media and the society at large will make the kids realize that there's something amiss about their parents' beliefs later on in life.

There's just so much worse cases out there that the Social workers could do something about. And they pick somebody who gave their kids a horrible name? WTF.
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BffSatan at 9:21PM, Jan. 15, 2009
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Aura moon, you are confusing racist with neo-Nazi, these people with racist parents are probably just a little racist, the kind that would talk about racist things but would never act on these racist beliefs. Neo-Nazis have killed people, the media will tell the kids that there parents are wrong, but the kids won't be exposed to the media, neo-Nazis fill their children’s heads with propaganda from day one and the media (if they are even aloud to watch TV) will not erase that. I've seen a documentary on this, it went undercover into neo-Nazi meeting, it was disturbing and yes, the kids were there hearing people of all ages talk about extermination of other races ant the “race traitors.” I can't ever believe that any form of media could teach their kids that everyone they have ever met is wrong.

Kyupol, you say Nazism is still alive, well duh. That is the point of taking the kids away, making sure the grow up proper so Nazis die out for ever. If we let them keep the kids then they will grow up racist and we will never defeat the Nazis for good.

You also say that they are going to end up being brought up by paedophiles, that is incredibly unlikely, most foster parents are caring people who want to give something to the community.

The social workers have clearly done the right thing, the kids will now be able to grow up well with caring parents who aren't racists and with normal names.
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bravo1102 at 7:09AM, Jan. 16, 2009
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Preaching to the choir. Watch Nazi America: A Secret History that was on the history channel.
And many of them are behind spreading and popularizing conspiracy theories.

Then of course Volkswagen was founded by Nazis, the VW Bug was co-designed by Hitler (the Iltis was an adaptation of the Nazi equivelent of the US Jeep), Ferdinand Porsche was Hitler's best buddy, BMW and Mercedes were heady supporters of the Nazis, Opel(the Ford division in Germany) still received support from the US company HQ in WWII, Henry Ford wrote a series of Anti-jewish books that were used by the Nazis. The list goes on and on. West Germany was founded by former Nazis (especially the Bundeswehr and Luftwaffe, current German units are proud of their heritage of service in the WWII German Whermacht)etc. etc.

Patton said it best when asked if average Germans joined the Nazi party the same way Americans became Republicans or Democrats he said yes. Controversal but entirely true. The modern racists and Neo-nazis are in the vein of extremistism as the SS or the Sturm Abteilung not the run of the mill Nazi party member. So the comparision to Operation Paperclip is specious.

Isuzu, Toyota and especially Mitsubishi were huge supporters of the Japanese military government in Imperial Japan.

Most ironic thing I ever saw a Mitsubishi truck festooned with USMC bumper stickers. Guess that Jarhead slept through the History of the Corps classes every Marine gets in basic training. WWII ETO veterans don't buy Mercedes Benz's, BMWs, Audis or Porsches. Might as well continue to hate the entire nationality. Hate every US Southerner for Jim Crow? Where does it stop?
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Inkmonkey at 2:44PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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And now what could be going in the minds of these kids as they're sent to pedophile foster parents who would molest them for days and days upon end.




That is the most painfully ignorant thing you have ever said, and that's saying a lot. That is so juvenile, so outright idiotic, that you should be fined for saying it. The police should mail you a ticket for $35 for being willing to say something so painfully uninformed.
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Walrus at 4:43PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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The children and their parents, Heath and Deborah Campbell, received attention last month when a supermarket bakery refused to put Adolf Hitler Campbell's name on a birthday cake.

Ha ha. I'd love to see that on a birthday cake: Happy Birthday Hitler. :D
 
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lothar at 5:52PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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if you think about it , it doesn't really matter if the parents are racists or not . a lot of racist assholes have kids and raise them to be racist asshole adults . the government can't stop that by taking the kids away .

but

these parents are guilty of child abuse for sure . nameing your kid adolf fucking hitler ! and the other two kids , something like “aryan nation suchnsuch” maybe the luckiest one of the three was the kid named after himler , cuz most people wont know who that is . can you imagine the kind of crap those kids are gunna have to put up with in school !

giving your child a name like that is almost as bad as tattooing a swastika on his forehead . sure he can change it later (if he survives to adulthood) , but as long as he stays with those parents he's stuck with the name hitler and assured of non stop ass-kickings all through highschool .

i think if the parents refuse to change the names , then they shouldn't be raising those kids .
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kyupol at 5:56PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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And now what could be going in the minds of these kids as they're sent to pedophile foster parents who would molest them for days and days upon end.




That is the most painfully ignorant thing you have ever said, and that's saying a lot. That is so juvenile, so outright idiotic, that you should be fined for saying it. The police should mail you a ticket for $35 for being willing to say something so painfully uninformed.

http://fostercareabuse.ca/

http://www.liftingtheveil.org/foster04.htm


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Inkmonkey at 6:43PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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And now what could be going in the minds of these kids as they're sent to pedophile foster parents who would molest them for days and days upon end.




That is the most painfully ignorant thing you have ever said, and that's saying a lot. That is so juvenile, so outright idiotic, that you should be fined for saying it. The police should mail you a ticket for $35 for being willing to say something so painfully uninformed.

http://fostercareabuse.ca/

http://www.liftingtheveil.org/foster04.htm




Yeah? And here's a chart that shows that the highest rate of child abuse is in the Southwest. That doesn't mean that everyone in the southwest is a child molester, or that any child that moves there is going to be abused. The latest hard stats from the second site you linked to are from 1992.

Look, I'm not saying that abuse is higher in foster homes than in private homes. But to write off the whole system as a cesspool of child rapists is moronic. You're insulting all the honest, good people who go into foster care because they want to help children simply because you're so gullible that you'll believe anything you see written down on the internet. You're championing all these causes that are just moronic based on a bizarre sense of morals. Do you honestly think that someone who would name their child Adolf Hitler is going to be a good parent? Whether they were honoring Hitler or they just thought it would be funny, that is NOT good parenting. That is setting your child up for a lifetime of mockery and pain. That's like naming your kid “Fuckstick McFuckyou”: if you actually care about your child, you don't do that. And now you come in acting like the children are being punished for being removed from their moronic, uncaring parents, and that somehow this is evidence of a nazi-like mentality in the local government of that area? You talk about how it's “ironic” that Nazis were shipped to America, and then this stuff happens. But no, it's not ironic. This has nothing to do with Nazism and everything to do with Bad Fucking Parenting.
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Hakoshen at 8:41PM, Jan. 16, 2009
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I heard about this story at work today, and as a social worker, specifically a child protection investigator, I can say that there's more to the story than what we're getting here. I mean, I don't know how they do it up there, but here in Louisiana there's no removal of children unless we can prove to a judge that the children's lives or well being is in eminent or inevitable danger, and we can't even do that without convincing a judge and having them give an order to do so.

Not only that, after the removal of children, there's the following court proceedings and follow up visits which is a really big pain in the ass, so whatever the real reason the children were removed for is something that has to hold up in court.

However, it they're anything like we are here, revealing specifics of cases can get you up to two years in jail, so they're probably not going to tell the press anything unless a judge again orders them to.
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krisikas at 10:36AM, Jan. 18, 2009
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Nazism wasn't defeated. Nazism is alive and well.

Not really, there are people who still believe in it, but its not like its so global as it was in Germany before and during WW2.And mostly of these nazists are just young hooligans who just like to drink beer and break stuff.Im talking about skinheads here.

Nazism is dead, nationalism is alive and well.Im a bit nationalist too, I dont think its bad, I just love my coutry.

But those people who named their son after Adam Hitler's name, where are they from?USA.How can you be a nazist in USA?What race is highest in USA according USA's nazists?

Soon, becouse of globalizm, not just in USA, but in all world nazism will be impossible.

Another thing, I can understand why many poeple may find socialism attractive, but nazism.Theres nothing attractive there, it takes away your freedom, bring never ending wars etc.etc. This kind of ideology will never attract enough people to make it strong again.


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kyupol at 2:58PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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Look, I'm not saying that abuse is higher in foster homes than in private homes. But to write off the whole system as a cesspool of child rapists is moronic.

All I was saying is there's alot of pedophiles in the system thats why I dont trust it. There's always the well meaning people though. I'm not writing off the whole system.

Its like saying. Would you bet on something that gives you a low probability of winning? You're not writing it off. You're just careful.

Do you honestly think that someone who would name their child Adolf Hitler is going to be a good parent? Whether they were honoring Hitler or they just thought it would be funny, that is NOT good parenting.

You never know. A bad parent to me is someone who physically abuses their child. Like beats them with a stick or something.

What if the parent thinks that Hitler is a great man and wants to honor Hitler? While I don't agree with Nazism, my point is the FREEDOM of a person to name their child in any way they want and the parents have the FREEDOM to honor Hitler if they want (even if its ironic that Hitler didn't honor freedom).

The state has no business in telling you what to name your child. Yes. Name him “Fuckface motherfucking dipshit cocksucker” if you want. You're just being an idiot if you do so and setting yourself up for mockery. But then again, the state has no business meddling in family affairs. Period.

If the kid hits age 18, they can apply to have their name changed if they don't want it.

because you're so gullible that you'll believe anything you see written down on the internet.

I actually saw a website that sells magic crystals that supposedly protects you from the chemtrails, the mind control, dark magick, and repels gray aliens, reptoids, demons, and bad people as an added bonus. For only $1000.

I also saw a website that says that you'll be a badass blackbelt level fighter in 2 hours after paying almost $100 for a fight instruction DVD. Yeah. $100 and you will be the ultimate fighting machine. Overweight? Old? Too thin? Handicapped? Never been in a fight before? No problem!!!

Yeah. I believe that. lol!


but nazism.Theres nothing attractive there

It is about the idea that your race/religion is somehow superior to all. There's always people who're gonna be attracted to that kind of idea.

Everyone wants to feel good about themselves and feel special.
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Croi Dhubh at 3:13PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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Removing the children just based on them being racist assholes is fucking stupid. As huge a fucking morons the racists are, there's nothing saying you can't raise your kid to be a huge piece of fucking shit.
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Chernobog at 3:20PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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*looks around blankly*

This topic feels like a completely unrelated tangent to the actual event.
According to the local news here (re: I live in NJ), it was stated while DYFS wouldn't elaborate on why the children were taken (nor are they legally obligated), it was revealed that the parents have had the police called on them frequently by neighbors for loud arguments and the sound of fighting. So this might be more an issue of domestic abuse? Watching an interview with the parents, they struck me as pretty redneckish which isn't too far from the truth for some people out here.

The whole Nazi naming convention and cake dispute actually came up in weeks prior to child services taking the children away. Whether it played into things or not, seems speculative.

Whatever the truth, I feel the media is particularly leading the viewer on in this story.
 
 
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Croi Dhubh at 3:25PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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It's the media, what the hell do you expect?

If they don't want to say why they took the kids out, then they leave themselves open to a lot of speculation as to the reasons, which isn't always in their best interest.

Just because a couple fights verbally and loudly also does not constitute the taking of children away. If you don't like that they are “redneckish” and feel that is enough to take children away, then let's clear the ghettos of children, because it's much worse there.
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Hakoshen at 4:43PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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People, I'm telling you, there's not a judge in this country who would authorize placing of children in foster care just because of how they were named and not expect to be disbarred. They wont elaborate on why they really took the children because they're legally obligated not to, under the penalty of jail time.

Whatever the real reason is, the media is just spinning it to be something completely different than the truth because they want a story and they want ratings. The state woudn't just jump in there for nonsensical stuff like names and bedtimes when there are plenty of real issues that certain to be going on in that district.
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Chernobog at 5:20PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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Croi, I hope you didn't mistake my opinion of the matter since you quoted something in my post. You sound very bitter. Rather, I was trying to relay what I saw for benefit of the topic.

Like I said, we don't know what the truth of the matter is. We don't know if violence or negligence was involved or not. The whole matter is contaminated with sensationalist journalism, as if often the case. I trust their pro-offered interpretation about as far as I can throw an elephant. Do I think something odd is going with those people? Sure. But I'm not advocating anything. Whatever happened, happened.
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Hakoshen is 100% right here, especially considering that's his area of expertise. ;)
Read what he says and cool off :)

And Kyupol is right when he says that taking kids away from their parents because of a silly thing like names would be a bad thing to do and putting kids into foster care would be more harmful to them if that was the case.
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I agree that the parents (mainly the farther) were idiots for choosing those names. It's not fair to the kids. I know of a couple of young Palestinian boys who were named Rommel and Hitler by their dad and because of that they used to be routinely abused and harassed by Israeli soldiers at the checkpoints.
But if there really was a problem with the names, I doubt they'd have been allowed to register them to begin with.

There's been a bigger problem with weird names in New Zealand recently, and in those cases the names were not allowed. Stuff like:
4 Real
Yeah Detroit
Stallion
Twisty Poi
Keenan Got Lucy
Sex Fruit
Fat Boy
Cinderella Beauty Blossom
Fish and Chips
(twins)

…And a 9 year old girl named "Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii" was able to get her name changed in court to something easier to live with.

Names that were allowed in NZ:
Violence
Number 16 Bus Shelter
Midnight Chardonnay
Benson and Hedges
(twins)
 
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Midnight Chardonnay

Sounds like someone wanted their kid to be a stripper from birth





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Croi, I hope you didn't mistake my opinion of the matter since you quoted something in my post. You sound very bitter. Rather, I was trying to relay what I saw for benefit of the topic.
No, but I think you mistook mine

Like I said, we don't know what the truth of the matter is. We don't know if violence or negligence was involved or not. The whole matter is contaminated with sensationalist journalism, as if often the case. I trust their pro-offered interpretation about as far as I can throw an elephant. Do I think something odd is going with those people? Sure. But I'm not advocating anything. Whatever happened, happened.
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I was agreeing that the media is spinning it. I was also stating that by not releasing the reasoning as to why, they attract negative attention to themselves because it's being made to appear the children were taken for reasons of the naming and having racist parents.
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Inkmonkey at 10:04PM, Jan. 18, 2009
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I should clarify that I never thought that the kids were only taken away because of their names: I just felt that the stupid names are a good sign of bad parenting. If you're going to call your kid Adolf Hitler, it's a clear sign that the child's well-being is not your priority.\

Also..

You're just being an idiot if you do so and setting yourself up for mockery.

No. You are not setting yourself up for mockery. You are setting your child up for mockery and scorn. Look, if you give yourself a tattoo of a penis on your own forehead, that's your business. But if you tattoo that shit on someone else's forehead, you're going to jail, and odds are you're going to end up paying to have that removed fromt he other guys' forehead. If you dress up your child like a clown every day for no reason, someone's going to take notice, and odds are if you're the type to do that then their research into it is going to find that you're a pretty shitty parent.
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I agree about the children getting the mockery. That's the biggest thing messed up about this. However, it also shows the disdain people have, even against children, simply because of a name.
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4 Real
Yeah Detroit
Stallion
Twisty Poi
Keenan Got Lucy
Sex Fruit
Fat Boy
Cinderella Beauty Blossom
Fish and Chips (twins)
Violence
Number 16 Bus Shelter
Midnight Chardonnay
Benson and Hedges
(twins)

This list makes me want to start a stable of racehorses simply to use all of these delightful names. Especially “Twisty Poi” and “Midnight Chardonnay.”

Not “Hitler,” though. It'd be too much trouble to get a little horse mustache to stick on.

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Chernobog at 10:55PM, Jan. 23, 2009
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Saw another article in the paper about the case.

Apparently, a neighbor has alleged that the parents are both abusing the children (doesn't specify how) and the husband was abusing his wife as well. Both deny the charges, although the husband is apparently in the hospital from ‘stress’. *shrug*
 
 
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Twisty Poi is an awesome name.

Also, it sounded to me like the parents were just asking for it, one way or another. It kind of sucks for the kids, whatever becomes of them.
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And now what could be going in the minds of these kids as they're sent to pedophile foster parents who would molest them for days and days upon end.
Who would molest a kid named Hitler.

Also, “Aryan Nation”? Couldn't have got a better middle name? There's no other Nazi names the could think of or what? Then again, most people who still follow this kind of garbage are uninformed black sheep who will ironically follow everyone else in doing the opposite of, you know, sane people.
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