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Reality TV- -- The worst AND the best
ozoneocean at 10:58PM, Nov. 25, 2008
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Reality TV is mostly what made me give up on TV altogether a few years ago.

The shame is that I still remember some of the shows that were actually good, and even entertaining… I don't recall too much about the bad ones that drove me away. But usually the good ones would eventually sour along with the rest.

I thought it might be interesting to list the good and the bad.

The bad

-America's Top Model
Pure shit.

-Big Brother
Radioactive shit.


-Idol (American, Australian, whatever)

-Queer eye for the straight guy
Kill me now…

-My Restaurant Rules (Australian show, don't know about any other versions)
Gave me a headache.

-That show where INXS tried to find a new singer that I can't recall the name off.
Unbelievably bad.

-This Old House
BOOOOOORINGGGGGGGG. Those people looked so bizarrely, horrifyingly “normal” I seriously suspected they were all closest sex fiends or deep cover Russian agents from the cold war or something.

-Charly's garden Army (or whatever it was called)
British “transformation” gardening show. Initially this was ok. The gardeners were earnest, friendly and had good personalities. But it was always the same thing pretty much: quick, change the garden and surprise what's her name before she gets home! And the big fat guy who always wore loose tracksuit pants with his polo shirts tucked into them made the eyes sore… not to mention that Celtic/Norse maiden Charley, with her weathered pink features, thin tanktops, no bra and big floppy boobs….

-Trinny & Susannah
Another British show. These two harridans spent most of the show telling someone how horrible they were and how horrible their taste in clothes were until they'd broken them and forced them to throw away all the clothes that made up their personality, dressed them up in their own hideous utterly generic way, convincing them they looked as lovely as they ever could be expected to.
One of the worst aspects of the show was when they critiqued their own figures, telling the world how horrible their elbows were or something banal like that, and then saying what they do to disguise it.
So utterly, utterly banal.

And a billion other things so shit and Can't remeber them or blocked from my mind….

The Good (For a while)

-Junkyard wars
Not the later series so much, but various incarnations of it retained the fun flavour and the inventiveness and engineering ability of the participants was amazing.

-OC Choppers
The creations that family and their employees built were rather artistic and it was interesting watching them source the right parts and overcome design challenges.

-Cruise Ship
A British show, very good in the beginning. It followed the lives of various crew members on board a ship, giving you a good insight into what those sorts of live-in jobs were like.

-Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends
I liked this. I brought you closer to some very strange groups and showed them from the inside instead of the outside view you normally see… Racist separatist Boers in post-Apartheid South Africa, people in the porn industry, people who believe they can talk to aliens, militant hard-line African American Muslim groups…

-The awful truth
This is what gave birth to Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends. It was clever and cutting, a nice examination of a lot of different things, but could sometimes seem a bit too judgemental.

Extremely entertaining. They were always willing to have a rough and ready stab at accepted beliefs about things, testing them as best they could with the resources that had at hand and the time they had available. And it was also a good illustration of a rough scientific method. I don't think you could say if they ever conclusively proved or disproved all they investigated, given the limitations, but they certainly put in a good effort each time!

-Changing Rooms
This British show was infectious. Watching the way they'd transform people's rooms on the cheap was interesting and the designer's personalities were engaging.


Anything to add to the lists?
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json at 12:18AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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there are so many BAD…no, not bad……“gouge my eyes out with soup spoons and pour sea salt into the empty sockets” unbearable reality tv shows, i don't think i have time to list them all.

the ones i actually enjoy:
the first 48 - camera crews follow american homicide detectives around as they try to solve a murder case within the the first 48 hours of arriving on the scene of the crime.

rob and big - there is something endearing about watching 2 best friends that love each other like brothers get into hijinxs.

man vs wild - the earlier seasons were quite informative….although lately, he seems to get naked a bit too often for my liking.

miami ink - about a tattoo shop in miami. i don't like kat von d, so i don't watch la ink.

the shit list:
the real world
my sweet 16
the pick up artist
beauty and the geek
hell's kitchen
extreme home makeover
gs to gents
who wants to marry ____
the bachelor/bachelorette
charm school
celebrity rehab
wife swap
trading spouses
i could go on, but i'll spare my brain. here in the states we have the HORRIBLE misfortune that 90% of our television is “reality” shows. there are like 12 versions of law and order. 8 versions of csi. 4 other drama series and so many reality shows it makes me hate reality. or am i hating fake reality? or am i hating the real reality that is glorifying a false reality?
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Custard Trout at 12:53AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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The Good

I have never laughed so hard in my life.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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ozoneocean at 1:23AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Typical non-contribution for our ever so facile trout.


Ah json, that bad list jogs the memory…
I recall “Dog the Bounty Hunter”
-That was a bad one…

Everything with Steve Irwin in it ever.
-His animal shows were a joke. I'm sorry, I know people loved him, but I never did, After loving good animal shows for years, especially by people like David Attenborough , the behaviour and manners of that buffoon were atrocious.

Some show with vets in it, especially this annoying Scandinavian woman and Rolf Harris…
-can't recall what it was called, but I hated them.

I think there was this show called “blind date” or something…?
-Or maybe it was a couple of shows. One where a vapid man or woman would have three partners competing on various activities during the date to be picked by said vapid man or woman.
-And one where a couple are paired and followed on the date by a camera crew, then some online panel of D list celebs critique their performance and make fun of them.

Jerry Springer. Murry Povich etc. etc.

Some show about a lie detector where couples come in and one asks the other about something horrible they think the other has done and the other either confesses or takes the lie detector test…

Oooo, and that stupid Judge Judy and other shows like it.
-Terrible shit!
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Custard Trout at 1:31AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Maybe if people made better topics, I'd have more to say.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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ozoneocean at 1:37AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Custard Trout
Maybe if people made better topics, I'd have more to say.

I look forward to that day.


I forgot… The Simple Life.
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Ironscarfs Ghost at 3:00AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Good grief Ozone, I now understand and sympathise with your hatred of the British: I never realised we were sending you these atrocities.

Charley's Garden Army was more famous for Charley's Charlies than any amount of gardening tips and Trinny and Susannah are still wreaking their upper class havoc on the grateful forlock tugging underclass.

We have even worse, although I don't know if you get them, such as Supernanny, with “Supernanny” Jo Frost, who teaches failing and disgraced parents how to terrify their out of control infants into submission. Her ilk are going to give rise to a whole generation of pschotic killers in a few years time.

Then there's Ten Years Younger, with an even more terrifying Australian woman who's name I refuse to remember, who takes the Trinny and Susannah formula to it's logical conclusion by including intensive facial treatments which often stray into the realms of plastic surgery.
The poor victims are then paraded before the public who must speculate on their age, as they did before the treatment, although whatsername is doubtless grinning at them menacingly from behind the camera - I'd say anything in that situation.

There are more variations that I can't remember now, but these seem particularly offensive and moving into dangerous territory. Thankfully our daytime schedules are full of harmless car boot sale/ find your grandfathers wooden leg in the attic and sell it at an auction type reality shows. He wore it on the Somme and they have the requisition forms to prove it.

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Skullbie at 3:18AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Loved queer eye :) I can see why a straight man would hate the show…dad got so pissy when carson groped other guys asses lol.

I confess I watch Prais hilton's new BFF on a regular basis, It's so fake it pulls it off with charm. Poor Mom watches ‘fox reality channel’,CNN, hell's kitchen, wife swap, and real housewives almost everyday. I fear for her…. :(
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ozoneocean at 3:37AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Ironscarfs Ghost
Good grief Ozone, I now understand and sympathise with your hatred of the British: I never realised we were sending you these atrocities.
I could never hate the brits :)
Just some… like Custard. …no Custard I don't really hate you.

I like the Brish Antiques Road Show. Somtimes anyway….
And Bargin Hunt had its moments, although the host was a bit strange with his extreme tan and colourful granny glasses.
I confess I watch Prais hilton's new BFF on a regular basis, It's so fake it pulls it off with charm. Poor Mom watches ‘fox reality channel’,CNN, hell's kitchen, wife swap, and real housewives almost everyday. I fear for her…. :(
Queer eye was a bit much. Even if I was gay I wouldn't want to be groped by a greasy sleaze like Carson. lol!

Your poor mum :(
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isukun at 9:34AM, Nov. 26, 2008
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Jerry Springer. Murry Povich etc. etc.
Oooo, and that stupid Judge Judy and other shows like it.

I still hesitate to even categorize talk shows and court shows as reality TV. After all they existed and were categorized before “reality TV” was even a concept.

I'm surprised nobody brought up crap like “The Osbournes” or “Flavor of Love”. Nothing has really disappointed me more than watching the white trash family of Ozzy or retarded women fight over the world's ugliest man.

The only reality TV I usually find myself watching these days is on rare occasions I might turn on Mythbusters and I tend to follow Last Comic Standing simply because it focuses a bit more on the stand up and less on the BS (although the last couple of seasons have been disappointing).
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ozoneocean at 7:58PM, Nov. 26, 2008
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I still hesitate to even categorize talk shows and court shows as reality TV. After all they existed and were categorized before “reality TV” was even a concept.
I meant loosely shows that are supposed to be concerning “real” people in “real” situations, without the suspension of disbelief involved in drama, comedy situations etc…
Even though we know content in things like the Jerry Springer show were often staged, that's not how they presented it.

The Osbournes… yeah. Ozzy is a dumb**** A real life Homer Simpson.

It reminds me off a show they did with the Beckams.-
I remember switching over to this thing one night and seeing some grubby, grotty fool of a man fiddling with his fridge and then whining to his wife in a wheedly childish high voice about something trivial. And her answering in a slightly condescending but similar way… They both looked and sounded like a pair from the other side of the tracks- “white trash” so to speak.
You know: Drug using young parents who had the baby while they were still kids…

I was shocked that it turned out to be famous and moronic Bekham couple. For a monet, but soon realised that it made perfect sense. Then I switched off the T.V. and did something else.
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Mushroomcomix at 8:28PM, Nov. 26, 2008
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I have never actually gotten into a reality show on a regular basis, although my wife forces me to watch some all the time.

Forced Reality Shows

Tila Tequila
So you think you can dance
Top Model
Many others I can't think of

Ones I have watched when nothing else is on

Axe Men
Deadliest Catch
Myth Busters
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Walrus at 6:36PM, Nov. 27, 2008
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The Bad-
Shaq's Big Challenge
The Hills

The Good-
Wife Swap
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skoolmunkee at 2:33AM, Nov. 28, 2008
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Oh, I'd forgotten about The Awful Truth- that was the Michael Moore one, right? There was some great stuff in there. It did get a little out of hand or preachy sometimes, but I certainly learned a lot from it.
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DAJB at 3:13AM, Nov. 28, 2008
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Well, it depends on your definition of “reality TV” but, if you're including Next Top Model, you can also add to the bad list all the other dreary talent shows (and their celebrity counterparts), like:

Project Catwalk
X Factor
Strictly Come Dancing
etc etc

And then of course there's:

The Dog Whisperer - ummm … yes, we know a lot of dog owners are stupid and need training more than their dogs but one episode would have been enough … Jesus! how many dogs does it take to make the same point!

Faking It - these people are not interesting to start with and even less so when pretending to be someone else.

Celebrity Fit Club - my brain hurts!

Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares - and all the other cookery-themed programmes aimed at people who never have and never will ever cook anything more adventurous than beans on toast!

The Apprentice - hey, let's have Alan Sugar tell lots of wannabes who are exactly like him that they're too obnoxious to ever get on!

Wife Swap - let's be honest, most of those contestants you'd be happy to swap for a bus ticket!

Life of Grime - Hey! We never clean our houses, let's go on TV and show everyone that Wayne and Waynetta Slob weren't fictional characters after all!

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ozoneocean at 4:42AM, Nov. 28, 2008
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Oh, I'd forgotten about The Awful Truth- that was the Michael Moore one, right? There was some great stuff in there. It did get a little out of hand or preachy sometimes, but I certainly learned a lot from it.
Exactly! Entertaining, educational, but preachy… Moore's greatest fault :(
Wayne and Waynetta Slob
man, that's half the population of Queensland…
HAH, the reminds me of two more!!!!


Sylvania Waters-
This was about an Australian family that lived in a new housing development that'd been built on a series of artificial canals. A British documentary crew moved in with them for a year or something and documented their every waking moment. This was before the reality T.V. explosion
Man, those people were the limit… A fantastic representation of suburban Australia. A fantastic BAD representation. The woman's name was Nolene, and she acted like it. I can't remember what her moron partner was called… something like “col” or “Dave”…? I have no idea. The thing is that those people were… extreme. Not nearly as bad as Dog the Bounty hunter, but they could have been related to him.


Rats in the ranks
This was a beautiful expose of local government in Australia. again, this was way before the reality explosion, but it was still reality. A documentary crew followed the members of a local council, the property developers that sought to influence them, followed the path of laws and applications to develop and how they were tied to certain people getting re-elected…
It sounds boring, but it was amazingly interesting really… all the intrigues that went on, the scheming, the deals. It was Shakespearian! You learn a lot about politics in general watching it close up on the small scale like that.
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Koshou at 8:27AM, Nov. 28, 2008
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Project Runway. Since it's one of the few reality shows where the contestants have to have a special skill to get by. I like watching it a lot.

Anything with the word “Love” in the title.
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NickGuy at 6:18PM, Nov. 28, 2008
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people sill watch tv?

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Insizwa at 3:33PM, Dec. 4, 2008
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Kenny Vs Spenny

If you don't like swearing, gross shit, tits , or gay porn, stay (the fuck) away.
It's basically 2 dudes doing competitions, one guy is the BIGGEST BASTARD IN THE WORLD, and the other guy is just a retard. Whoever loses has to do a humiliation on international television. It's like jackass with a point. In one episode Kenny tricked Spenny into thinking he might be infected with HIV. It's a heavy show. A lot of people say it's scripted, but even if, it's amazing. Plus it's produced by the dudes who made South Park. & it's Canadian


In Man Tracker, some old bastard cowboy hunts down 2 idiots (the prey) trying to transverse Canadian wilderness. It's completely over the top, and even has that epic orchestra music (like with survivor and fear factor). Really cheesy, but awesome. it's fun to see the prey get all paranoid and pissed off as the competition goes. They have to travel about 40km (about 25 miles) in 2 days on foot. In one episode there was a husband & wife, and every time the husband would raise his leg to hop over a log, he'd kick his wife in the mouth.

I also like Mythbusters , and all the bad ones i know about have already been mentioned. I'm sure someones gonna disagree with Kenny Vs Spenny though, since it's so foul and offensive.
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Hawk at 4:04PM, Dec. 4, 2008
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I've really been enjoying Time Warp on the Discovery Channel. There's something cool about watching things in slow motion, and the people on the show seem to do a good job of explaining why things act the way they do.

Conversely, I don't enjoy Prototype on the Discovery Channel. It has this “we want to be Mythbusters” vibe to it, and the things they build on the show are always impractical and a waste of time.

I was surprised to find that Paris Hilton is getting another chance at reality TV. I guess in this new show it's all about people kissing up to the little wench in order to win the coveted rank of Paris Hilton's “BFF”. Let's reserve a spot on the “Worst” list for this program.
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Bekefel at 4:52PM, Dec. 4, 2008
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How the hell does Paris Hilton keep making her way on to Television?

I could rant for hours about the garbage I've seen on TV. Most of it coming from the other side of the pond, America.

Sweet 16
Spoilt brats on TV demanding things from their parents for a party where they have to be the centre of attention and everything has to perfect. If she asks for blue drapes and you get her teal ones, all hell breaks loose. Pathetic.

Parents and boyfriend of girl watches her on a date with some jerk
So the boyfriend watches on as some guy attempts to steal his woman away from him, and the parents sit there and read comments they have clearly reading off an autocue or something. Then the girl chooses to keep her boyfriend or swap for this new guy. What a load of trash, as if relationships worked that way. As if parents worked that way. This show annoyed me more than anything.

Date my mom
“Look at me! I can make the camera whip to me immediately after this person does something so I can make a humerous quip about what I am feeling right now!” And who writes the lines for these kids?

Mum: “Oh my daughter loves bowling”
Dickhead: INNER MONOLOGUE THING - I'm about ta' hit a STRIKE!

In short, all reality TV is garbage. Big Brother, Pop Idol, all of it. The only thing barely passable is A Shot at Love because there is lesbian action EVERY FIVE SECONDS. Which they are also told to do to boost ratings for an otherwise dire show in which everyone is in love with everyone at some point.

Oh yeah and go die if you watch The OC, One Tree Hill, Gilmore Girls etc.
Please, please, you give me too little credit.
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