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Sexual Fetishes: "sick" or "normal"
Aurora Moon at 6:41AM, April 30, 2006
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Aurora, I meant for both parties to do things right of course :D
The situation could be exactly the same no matter what kind of sex they practised if one partner wasn't really getting the most out of it, having their needs met, or participating fully and voluntarily. It could perhaps be much, much worse in the case of rougher kinds of sex…

yeah, thats true.
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jude_boi at 6:36AM, May 1, 2006
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and having sex with pre-pubecent children.. no consent there at all, so to me that's legally wrong and just plain disturbing.

the same for using dead corpses. just too gross not to metion the dieases and stuff that one might get from it.

The pre pubecent children is just legally wrong? No. It's immoral. The child doesn't understand sex. It's a frightening concept and it is damaging. So the law has nothing to do with it there. It's purely what is common sense morality.

My disgust with that and necrophilia have nothing to do with legality. Morality is what drives me here. Necrophiliacs defile a dead body. They have no respect for the person who once was. And the disease part needs not to be mentioned. It's implied.

S&M/B&D are just a little weird. So forgive me if i freak out about it. And also i know someone whose into bondage and is opposed to gays/bisexuals so i'm likely to spaz for no good reason. I'm just not comfortable with sadomasochism and it will take a while to get over all that.

Wanting simulated rape, as Dr. Drew Pinsky has said many times over, is quite often a sign of a traumatic child hood, usualy involving molestation in early years or abusive situations in childhood. the child is then sexually drawn to similar situations in their post adolescence and post pubecent years.

And yes, Dr. Drew is a legit source. He is a legal doctor.
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jude_boi at 6:42AM, May 1, 2006
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So in other words,gets me off is okay? This is way too much.
Sex is about passion, not orgasms. Call me a romantic, but I think sex is better off the old fashioned way.

Frae
We live in a world where sex doesn't have as much meaning as it use to have. While some people view it the romantic portion of sex, many others just use it to post their ego. I'm happy I'm not the only one who believes sex still has meaning. :)

About the whole sex is not meant for hitting and pooping and all that jazz, that may be true, but you got to understand that all of these acts include two parties consent (maybe even three or many more). Goin back to my smoking example, it may not be good for you, but people enjoy it, right? The same goes for these extreme sexual fetishes. they may not be good, but they are enjoyable to the parties involved. Therefore, whatever gets you off, go for it. Just because people think its gross doesn't mean its going to change anything. If people enjoy it, they'll do it.

True, i know that's true. I'm just voicing my opininion.

Sex is suppose to be a meaningful thing in between two persons in love. But it just has become an action done for some pleasure. And what makes us think, just because we're enjoying it, so is the other person?

But as you pointed out, how are we going to stop it?

THis doesn't mean i will ever condone it.
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Aurora Moon at 10:36AM, May 1, 2006
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and having sex with pre-pubecent children.. no consent there at all, so to me that's legally wrong and just plain disturbing.

the same for using dead corpses. just too gross not to metion the dieases and stuff that one might get from it.

The pre pubecent children is just legally wrong? No. It's immoral. The child doesn't understand sex. It's a frightening concept and it is damaging. So the law has nothing to do with it there. It's purely what is common sense morality.

My disgust with that and necrophilia have nothing to do with legality. Morality is what drives me here. Necrophiliacs defile a dead body. They have no respect for the person who once was. And the disease part needs not to be mentioned. It's implied.

S&M/B&D are just a little weird. So forgive me if i freak out about it. And also i know someone whose into bondage and is opposed to gays/bisexuals so i'm likely to spaz for no good reason. I'm just not comfortable with sadomasochism and it will take a while to get over all that.

Wanting simulated rape, as Dr. Drew Pinsky has said many times over, is quite often a sign of a traumatic child hood, usualy involving molestation in early years or abusive situations in childhood. the child is then sexually drawn to similar situations in their post adolescence and post pubecent years.

And yes, Dr. Drew is a legit source. He is a legal doctor.

I never said child molestion was only legally wrong, and not immoral. yes, I agree that children doesn't understand sex well enough… that's why they can't even consent fully even if the said children are “groomed” into thinking they really do want it. not to meition, they're not even devloped fully and is pretty much helpless in many ways, so I can't understand the attraction to them…
I think it's pretty immoral to go after somebody or something like that just because they're “easy prey”, and wouldn't fight back as seeing they see most adults as an authority figure meant to be obeyed.

As for nephrohilla… the reason why such a thing disturbs me is because of the whole fact that the person is pretty much like an unconicous person, only expect there's no way that the person will ever “wake up” again. And you don't even know if that dead person would even had constented if that person was alive at that time, you know?
and it's not like there's such a thing as zombies or vampires to back up the fact of an so-called constental dead person.
it's just one person getting his rocks off on an body that won't ever fight back or protest. or even press charages against that offending person.
so again, it's an case of people going after something that won't argue, fight back etc…. they're “easy” to have your way with. pretty much
immoral.

so for me it's not only a quesiton of legality, it's also a question of morals cocerning costent. personally, I think the people who are into dead people needs to get themselves blow up dolls and leave the dead alone. also prefferiably get themselves some help too.

as for your doctor that says it…. well, he's just ONE doctor. what about other doctors backing up that same belief? I happen to think something is only vaild when it has more than one or two doctors backing it up. that way I know that theory and or study has been tested thoughly and is proven to be true for the majority of people.

I know a couple out there who's into simluated rape, but nethier one of them seems to ever had an tramatic childhood, much less was molested. a lot of people ask them that, and thier answer was always no. in a way it's not even real rape, it's just rough sex for them.

also…there's a few women out there who started out being raped for real, and then ended up enjoying it instead, so the real rape turned into constental sex. and after wards they do the “rape” again, only this time it's simulated. it's very extremely rare, but it can happen.

so I would have to say that not all people who are into simulated rape or something similar are molested young, or even had an traumatic event.
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jude_boi at 6:27AM, May 2, 2006
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It's not natural for any creature, human or animal, to want to be dominated in that way. Women don't like such a thing. ANd it has been proven that to want simulated rape is usually a sign of deep trauma from the past. THe person becomes attracted to this. They begin to desire it. Ask any half sane psychologist and they will say pretty much the same.

It's just not natural to want to be raped.
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Aurora Moon at 2:40PM, May 2, 2006
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then heres the question…

is it really “rape” if the person wants it?

I mean, I have told you before that I know an couple who's into roleplaying all sorts of thing, and it's not even real rape or even anywhere close to rape for them at all. it's just rough sex.

and again, they have told anybody who have asked them about it that they had never had an tramatic event in the past, much less had an fucked up childhood.

and they have an safe word for that sort of thing in case the woman really does want it to stop. and the male will stop when she says that one word.

so in a way, it's not actual rape, it's just roleplaying.
kinda like this:

Hubby comes in, dressed up like a plumber or some other uniform. the wife is dressed in sexy outfit or something.. the husband starts to flirt with her, and then starts to become overlly aggerestive.
the wife pretends to protest, and is “fighting” him off in an rather feeble attempt. husband pins the wife down, and then they start to have some very rough sex.

then afterwards they'd go to the bed to curl up together or something.

nothing about that seems to suggest an actual rape to me.

as for your comment about it not being natural for people to want to be dominmated, I just have to laugh.

if it wasn't natural for some people to get a thrill out of such things then BSDM or S&M wouldn't even exist in the first place.

why do you think that got invented, if not for liked-minded people to get together and get an thrill out of being dominated?
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evilplushie at 12:54PM, Sept. 5, 2006
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Horomones happen. People who are disgusted with sexual fetishes are simply in denial. Hell, they probably wouldn't be around if it hadn't been for someone's sexual fetish. :?
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hat at 1:30PM, Sept. 5, 2006
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You know what I don't get?
People with foot fetishes.
I mean I can understand that's their thing and their buisness but…..
wtf feet?
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Aurora Moon at 3:29PM, Sept. 5, 2006
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You know what I don't get?
People with foot fetishes.
I mean I can understand that's their thing and their buisness but…..
wtf feet?

lol, I don't understand that myself… I mean, Ive seen some people with some very nice-looking feet, but not overly nice to the point that I wanna get off to their feet.
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blackaby at 4:54PM, Sept. 5, 2006
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Heh, total ressurection. But what the heck eh. Here's a point to add to the debate several months ago:

This whole ‘it’s childhood trauma' thing doesn't work for me. Yeah, in some cases, it's due to childhood trauma. Others, it's part of you from birth.

I've got one of the hardcore fetishes - albeit a legal one - and I've had it forever. I can remember dreaming about it at four years old, and my mother reports that I was showing ‘signs’ of it far earlier, acting it out. There's been absolutely nothing in my life to prompt this. It's just happened. I think I'm hardwired to like it the same way I'm hardwired to have a particular gender-preference sexually.

Shit happens.
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Aurora Moon at 6:17PM, Sept. 5, 2006
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Agreed.

we DO need to worry about the REAL pyshcos out there that does creepy shit to people who DIDN'T give their consent more than worrying about if some fetishes that consenting people have is normal.
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Comicmasta at 4:25PM, Sept. 6, 2006
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TO ALL OF YOU SICKOS OUT THERE!
Stop watching childporn, i dont care if its free
Instead replace that fetish with hentai,
Its completly free so you sicko's can wack you weiner all night to it and develop Gonorreah.(…i think i spelt that right) without a care in the world, Plus its legal! So you dont have police on your ass every damn secound.

Next im gonna talk about this so called “Rape Porn.” and “Incest Porn.”
1. If its rape porn then putting it on the internet would get you arrestead….would it not?
2. Incest porn……sure who hasnt thought about doing their mom or sister from time to time, Hell maybe even their grandma….but isnt that kind of illegal? Not in the state of Kentucky! or was it Alabama…..or Kansas….Bah it was one of those.
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Comicmasta at 6:03PM, Sept. 6, 2006
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Tentacle porn artists thats who.
Seriously though, as your comic states WTF is up with that?
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Aurora Moon at 6:52PM, Sept. 6, 2006
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the “rape porn” isn't really rape, honestly.

I've downloaded some before out of morbid curiousity, and it was basically just some kinky shit. at first the women were all like “oh no..” but saying it like they didn't really mean it, and then when he barely started “raping” her, she was like “oh yes!”

I wouldn't be surpised if it was just husband and wife roleplaying and getting off on the fact that they broadcasted themselves like that over the net.

but in a way, I can't help but wonder if the “rape porn” with all those obivously fake rape is belittling the seriousness of the real crimes out there.

as for the incest porn… again the porn I've downloaded the “sisters”, “brothers”, “mothers” and “fathers” looked nothing alike most of the time, so I get the feeling they weren't even related, or at least only step-family…
but it's still creepy in a way.

so to sum it up, the rape porn and incest porn isn't my bag, I downloaded it to see out of curiousity, and I still don't understand the appeal.
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MagickLorelai at 9:36PM, Sept. 8, 2006
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I'm in agreement that sex with children/animals/comatose victims/the dead(etc) is unacceptable. I have no probles with people who decide to add a spark of interest to what they're doing- as long as no one gets hurt or too deeply consumed by it.

Me? Virgin. I know, a twenty-one-year-old virgin? Impossible, you say? *shrug*It just happened that way. I have a healthy respect for sex, and consider it the act of lovemaking. If plain ol' missionary position works for both parties, fantastic. I have no objections, however, to someone who reaches beyond the physical and involves the mental to arouse, stimulate, and make love to their partner.

I have my own interests. I have yet to put it into practice, but one of the things that gets to me is hypnotism. I'm not talking the cheesy, "you're falling under my speeelll" nonsense, but real trance-state. (Boy, I feel sheepish saying so…^^; ) BUT! To clarify; it would not be without consent. Both persons involved would have to be aware of what was happening, to an extent. Basically, "Hey, wanna be hypnotized?" "Yeah! Sounds sexy!" type thing. So no "Booing" about the "lack of consent".

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Aurora Moon at 3:02AM, Sept. 9, 2006
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Me? Virgin. I know, a twenty-one-year-old virgin? Impossible, you say?

lol, not so impossible. 23-year-old virgin here.
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Comicmasta at 5:11AM, Sept. 9, 2006
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H-h-h-h-hold up there MagicalLorelai
I understand how child/thedead/rape porn is unnexceptable
But when you mess with my donkey shows your asking for trouble.
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Duck at 7:15AM, Sept. 9, 2006
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Rich, it wouldn't surprise me if they were true. Though why some'll wanna see it, I have no clue.

With fetishes, basically it boils down to this (to me) what two consenting adults agree to in privacy is their business. Now when one of the adults doesn't consent, that gets to the bad things.
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Comicmasta at 8:47AM, Sept. 9, 2006
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H-h-h-h-hold up there MagicalLorelai
I understand how child/thedead/rape porn is unnexceptable
But when you mess with my donkey shows your asking for trouble.

I always thought donkey shows were an urban legend. They really have those?
Hell yeah, i snuck into one once.
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kyupol at 7:30AM, Oct. 17, 2006
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buttsecks?
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Rich at 8:06PM, Oct. 17, 2006
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buttsecks?

That shit's ok too.
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kyupol at 9:10PM, Oct. 17, 2006
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I also got a fight fetish…
SCREW UFC! :)

http://www.psfights.com/fight-video-887.htm

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Rich at 9:28PM, Oct. 17, 2006
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That is fucking extreme. Bookmarked to hell and back!
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ozoneocean at 2:26AM, Oct. 18, 2006
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You know, I've had a bit of a think about this… Weird sex is interesting, and fun to fantasise about, but straight out normal sex is really good enough as it is, you know?
It's all very well to have a bunch of healthy fantsies, but when you do actually have sex and you need something strange in order to get off then I reckon something's probably a little bit wrong… Maybe you're just having too much sex and the normal stuff has become boring, or maybe your partner is just not interesting enough, maybe you have real mental problems, or maybe you're just trying to make a fantasy real and not enjoying the real thing with the real person you're actually with?

That was Just a thought from the other direction this time, instead of arguing that any sexula “perversion” is ok.
 
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kyupol at 7:11AM, Oct. 18, 2006
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but straight out normal sex is really good enough as it is, you know?

Its just boring. I have a hard time getting an erection if its just normal, conventional sex.

You know… if sex was war, I'd be a war-criminal. :)




btw, there's this other sexual fetish I found out… its called the “giantess” fetish.

http://giantesszone.com/

I find it funny sometimes instead of sexually arousing.
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MagickLorelai at 7:59AM, Oct. 18, 2006
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I don't think there IS anything wrong with “normal, everyday, old-fashioned sex”. I mean, one would hope you're having sex because you love the person you're having sex with and want to deepen your relationship, which normal,everyday sex can do. ^^

But I disagree,Ozoneocean, that people who add a fetish or other fantasy to the sex are suffering from “problems”, necessarily. Sure, it might suggest a few things about that person psychologically, but it doesn't take AWAY from sex, it typically just adds to it. It's another layer of connection, I suppose: If both people in the couple have this shared interest, and they include it in their intimate relationship, it adds just that much more..“personalization” to the sex.

*embarrassed*But I can't say anything from personal experience, so maybe I'm wrong. That's just what makes sense to me.

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Rich at 8:25AM, Oct. 18, 2006
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btw, there's this other sexual fetish I found out… its called the “giantess” fetish.

It's now official. There is a fetish for everything.
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Aurora Moon at 4:03PM, Oct. 20, 2006
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btw, there's this other sexual fetish I found out… its called the “giantess” fetish.

It's now official. There is a fetish for everything.

yep, inducing getting aroused off seeing people eat or eating something. I heard about that once, and I was like “um, that's intersting.”

and also getting aroused by plants. like some peopleactually just want to go fuck a tree, litterally.

it's werid..
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kyupol at 1:23PM, Oct. 21, 2006
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cyber sex? anyone?

anyone interested in cyber roleplaying sex? (if you're underage, go fuck yourself. :P)
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kyupol at 1:34PM, Oct. 21, 2006
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yep, inducing getting aroused off seeing people eat or eating something. I heard about that once, and I was like “um, that's intersting.”


Yep. I'm one of those people. I like watching women eat. Its a sub-classification of voraphilia (from the latin word “vorare” meaning “to eat”. So far, I'm aware of 3 types of voraphiles…

1) Normal voraphiles - just enjoy watching people eat. Ice cream, banannas, chips, all sorts of food… there are vids of those things in youtube. I like the vid taken from a cellphone camera. Its this really hot gal (9 out of 10) eating pink ice cream in the cafeteria. btw I also think that pink is the color of sex. So gals wearing pink can make me hard.

2) animal voraphiles - obsessed with sharp teeth and claws… and in some cases… jerk off watching discovery channel when the animals eat each other.

3) giantess voraphiles - fantasize about getting swallowed by 500 foot sexy women. Sometimes have hardcore BDSM tendencies… since getting eaten and getting digested in all those stomach acids is a fucking painful way to die. Acid is the shit. Look at those poor Kurds, Shiites, and Iranians that Saddam hit with chemicals… I think thats how you'd look like inside the stomach of a giantess… :(


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