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jalford at 4:20AM, April 28, 2008
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I know we started a thread about this somewhere, but I can't see it from the last few months. Anyway, anyone genuinely interested in seeing the movie?
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lastcall at 5:05AM, April 28, 2008
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Nope. The Wachowski brothers killed their Matrix masterpiece by adding a crummy second and third one to it, and they probably will to this one. I have no respect for the brothers now. All they want to do is make money.
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Hawk at 10:28AM, April 28, 2008
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I'll admit, I have virtually no hope of the movie being good. To add to that, I never watched Speed Racer because they didn't air it where I lived, so there's no nostalgia factor for me even.
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Jules at 12:26PM, April 28, 2008
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I don't have high hopes for the movie, but I'm at least gonna go see it…just because it's Speed Racer.
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Ryuthehedgewolf at 12:51PM, April 28, 2008
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I've never really watched the Matrix movies, so I can't really judge.

But, I do love the look of the movie. So I'll wait till it comes out to say anything.
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lefarce at 4:43PM, April 28, 2008
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The Wachowski's are bad at their jobs and should feel bad.

Oh and The Wachowskis aren't brothers anymore, Lastcall. :/

 
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mlai at 4:51PM, April 28, 2008
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I think this will be a good summer popcorn movie, nostalgia or no.
I like the little Soprano.
With the exception of Lucas, artists (directors included) learn from their mistakes and their arts mature. It's been a long time since Matrix 3; the bros may be better.

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ccs1989 at 6:14PM, April 28, 2008
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I saw the trailer in theaters. It looked like a bowl of fruit loops exploded on screen.
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isukun at 8:30AM, April 29, 2008
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With the exception of Lucas,

And Uwe Boll, and Michael Bay, and Roger Christian, and James Wong, and David Zucker, and Craig Mazin, and Jason Friedberg, and Aaron Seltzer, and…

Actually, I'm going to stop there. I could probably go on forever listing directors who haven't learned from their mistakes. I find there are many directors out there who think of themselves as visionaries and are willing to write off any negative criticism as simply people “not getting it.” You can't learn if you don't recognize the mistakes you're making.

This is precisely why a lot of directors don't mature over time or worse, their movies get stale or just plain bad. Once they get that one review praising them as innovative geniuses, they think they are somehow untouchable. They get themselves more involved in the process and forget that making a good movie involves some element of give and take. No single person has good ideas all of the time.

The truly great directors out there are the ones who excel at managing the resources available to them (writers, actors, staff and crew) without letting their ego get in the way. I think the modern media has placed far too much emphasis on the director in these productions and it has made it much harder for directors to take a step back when they need to. It used to be that the director was there to make sure the script was properly represented on screen, now it's all about the “director's vision” and that has brought about a lot of very egocentric wannabe visionaries. I don't see the Wachowskis as being some sort of exception, especially since they have been plugging a proposed sequel for Speed Racer for a while now. I'm also not too thrilled with their obsessive use of Koreans to play Japanese characters. I find it a little hard to believe that the Japanese pop stars were too busy.
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ozoneocean at 10:13AM, April 29, 2008
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It used to be that the director was there to make sure the script was properly represented on screen, now it's all about the “director's vision” and that has brought about a lot of very egocentric wannabe visionaries.
Cecil B Demille? :)

I know what you mean though. They say it stems from the late 70's with Lucas, Spielberg, Stone, Scorsese… Their great successes paved the way for what we have now. So they say.
 
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jalford at 3:41AM, May 1, 2008
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Although technically Speed Racer is not an anime. Mach Go Go is an anime. Speed Racer is the Americanized version of that. Sort of like how Robotech is not Marcross/Southern Cross/Mosepeda, or Star Blazers is not Yamato. If you wanted to do a Voltron comic, you wouldn't need to go to Japan to get permission from anyone involved with Go Lion or Dairugger. You'd instead need to get permission from World Events which holds the copyright on it.

As for the movie, the only thing I'm scared of is that this is the 2nd cartoon-based movie John Goodman is in, which doesn't help.
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ozoneocean at 6:39AM, May 1, 2008
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It's the Americanisation that made Speed good. The way they talked was funky! :)

I'm sure the show was just as repetitive and unimaginative in Japanese. It probably made more sense, but wouldn't be as groovy ^_^
 
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isukun at 9:09AM, May 1, 2008
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Sort of like how Robotech is not Marcross/Southern Cross/Mosepeda, or Star Blazers is not Yamato. If you wanted to do a Voltron comic, you wouldn't need to go to Japan to get permission from anyone involved with Go Lion or Dairugger. You'd instead need to get permission from World Events which holds the copyright on it.

Actually, that's not entirely true. It depends on the terms of the original contract. A lot of the time, you'll find that companies like World Events deal with the licensing directly since they own the domestic name and character rights, but still have to renegotiate their own contracts or act as middle men with the original rights holders when new productions are proposed. Unfortunately, we the spectators don't often get to see what happens behind the scenes in terms of the legal work, but it is very seldom that companies have blanket rights over a foreign property like that.

On a slightly unrelated topic, I hear World Events is trying to put together a live action Voltron film to kill the series once and for all. Well, I'm sure they see it as a money tree, but with this description of the plot: "a post-apocalyptic tale set in New York City… five ragtag survivors of an alien attack band together and end up piloting the five lion-shaped robots that combine and form the massive sword-wielding Voltron that helps battle Earth's invaders," I just can't see anything beyond another Voltron 3D disaster in the making.
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mlai at 4:10PM, May 1, 2008
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What's the point of Voltron without Ms. Pink Princess?!?!!

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isukun at 6:45PM, May 1, 2008
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I think I'm more concerned about them moving the movie to a post apocalyptic New York. Why do the majority of these Hollywood movies based on Japanese films and anime have to take place in New York? What? A fictional planet thousands of light years away and stylistically based on central Europe was too Japanese? I kind of liked the mix of scifi and fantasy in the orginal.
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ozoneocean at 4:56AM, May 2, 2008
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Yeah, I'm just tired of post apocalyptic New York. -_-
It's so ****ing badly cliche. At least the anime cliche standard setting, Neo-Tokyo, is actually cool and funky. Post apocalyptic New York was tried and dull by the time of Planet of the Apes.

They use it because it's a standard, easy to identify referance point by a very large amount of people- regardless of where they come from. That doesn't make it excusable to use it ALL the time, but likely they thought an alien Central European city in space would just be too… alien. :)
 
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jalford at 12:42AM, May 4, 2008
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The movie seems to stick a little close to the TV series though. Most of Racer X's background is covered too, and I don't mean him just being Speed's bro.
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ozoneocean at 1:04AM, May 4, 2008
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Wait a sec… Racer X is Speed's Brother? o_O
His long lost brother that mysteriously disappeared and was never heard from again? o_O

GET AWAY! o_o
 
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jalford at 2:28AM, May 7, 2008
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Either that, or they're using his secret identity to cover up for Speed & X's “relationship”.
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lastcall at 3:45AM, May 7, 2008
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The Wachowski's are bad at their jobs and should feel bad.

Oh and The Wachowskis aren't brothers anymore, Lastcall. :/

LOL, that's true; I forgot about Laurencia….
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ozoneocean at 5:21AM, May 7, 2008
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Either that, or they're using his secret identity to cover up for Speed & X's “relationship”.
You mean the Batman and Robin sort of thing?
 
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jalford at 5:24AM, May 8, 2008
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That's nothing compared to Spritle & Chim-Chim's BEASTIALITY.
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ozoneocean at 7:14AM, May 8, 2008
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That's nothing compared to Spritle & Chim-Chim's BEASTIALITY.
No WAY!

Maybe, just maybe Spritle had something going on with a pet goldfish or something, but Chim-Chim was as pure as fresh snow. That chimp was NO Mr Bubbles. -_-
 
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shaneronzio at 8:51AM, May 9, 2008
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Going to see the movie tonite…will give opinion post viewing
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mlai at 4:25PM, May 10, 2008
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I liked this movie. I was crying during the entire 1st race + childhood flashback. It's so beautiful sob… LOL. IMO, that segment, up to Speed finishing the race alongside his brother's “ghost”, was very well done.

There are 2 cons with this movie:

1. There is a Jar Jar Binks in this movie. I wanted to watch Speed Racer, not Spy Kid.

2. I expected the unrealistic racing, but I didn't expect the extent of the unrealistic palette. It made things fake. I know it's a stylistic choice, but the racing sequences would have been much more intense if the cars (and everything else) looked real.

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fern at 11:07PM, May 10, 2008
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The movie was cool beans… and now we wait for the Wachowski Effect in the sequels.

Boy oh boy, will they suck-ass.
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jalford at 1:01AM, May 11, 2008
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Saw it. Loved it. My only complaints was it was at least 10 minutes too long, the retrospective of the entire movie just before Speed finishes at the end was unnecessary, and the last race was just way to surrealistic to keep up with, like Speed was just totally tripping balls(along with the directors). Weirdly, as much as I wasn't a Spritle fan from the old show, I actually dug him & Chim-Chim in this. The Fist Of The North Star parody was hysterical! Plus, Racer X reigns supreme over all the foolish mortals of the Earth!
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hpkomic at 9:16AM, May 11, 2008
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The movie was… fun.

The highlights were any of the race scenes and Speed reaching racing-nirvana at the end there (aka the Wachowski's orgasming over their CG).

The CG either worked well (Fuji race was amazing looking) or incredibly out of place (most of the stuff outside the car).
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shaneronzio at 6:47AM, May 16, 2008
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Speed Racer is the ultimate movie for all kids high on over sugared cereal.
Trixie was cute, they stuck to the same plot as the origional cartoon and I thought the effects were pretty friggin shweet.

Fast paced…don't blink or you will miss something.

seriously.

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