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Texting while Driving PSA...warning: very graphic
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**Just a warning that this PSA is very graphic.** It was created in Britain as an effective message to let kids know that texting & driving are NOT a good idea…



…What do you think about texting & driving? Personally, I think it would be nice to get rid of cell phones while driving, or at least create laws to where only headsets are allowed while driving. I think some U.S. states are already pushing these kinds of laws through.
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Vagabond at 6:14PM, Aug. 25, 2009
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I'm a fan of anti-cell phone legislation when it comes to driving. The thing is though, studies have shown that hands-free headsets are just as bad too. So I'd be against encouraging that sort of thing, too.
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Product Placement at 2:40AM, Aug. 26, 2009
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Was this a part of a show? Normally these kind of ads stop after the accident itself. And there's nothing wrong with making these things graphic. It's sometimes the only way to hammer it in for the truly dense people.

I've also heard about that study, saying that hands free cell phones were inhibiting people from driving carefully. But the way it distracts the person is just the same as if he's talking to someone who's sitting in the car. Anything that takes the drivers attention from the road increases chances of an accident.
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kyupol at 12:51PM, Aug. 26, 2009
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I agree that texting while driving (as well as any other “driver distraction” like putting on makeup, etc) is stupid and dangerous.

However, I do not agree on laws against this (as well as seatbelt laws).

Anything to increase the size of government and increase police powers is a step towards tyranny.

Can you imagine if a cop in a bad mood pulls you over and then decides on a whim to say you were driving with a cell phone even if you're not. If you can bodyslam an old lady, what more with making stuff up.
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Orin J Master at 8:20AM, Aug. 27, 2009
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sorry Kyupol, but for once you're not paranoid ENOUGH. if a cop feels like arresting you, you get arrested. you were “driving erraticly” or “acting suspiciously” and then you “resisted arrest” with your complaints and failure to fawn on him for “doing his job”. then he drives off and gabs about it on his cell phone in the freeway.

it's not a matter of government power, it's police corruption and the fact there's nothing checking them but themselves.
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Hawk at 10:13AM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Really, Kyupol? There extensive studies done that prove that seatbelts improve your chances of surviving a colloision. And possibly going into a health system where my tax dollars would be paying for other people's health care, I want laws like that enforced.

I'm all for any laws involving cell-phone use while driving. When I see a driver perform a dangerous maneuver or make a big mistake, 85% of the time they're talking on a cell phone. And I hate talking on the phone while driving, so I have no problems following the rule.
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Mr Lostman at 10:59AM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Maybe instead of just blaming the police, you two, you could work on your driving skills?
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kyupol at 1:53PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Really, Kyupol? There extensive studies done that prove that seatbelts improve your chances of surviving a colloision.

I agree. And I will wear my seatbelt for my own safety due to common sense.

What I'm arguing here is the PRINCIPLE of government intrusion into our lives. Are we such little children that the Nanny state needs to be watching behind our back to make sure we are safe?

Are you an adult or a child who needs Big Brother to watch over you?

And possibly going into a health system where my tax dollars would be paying for other people's health care, I want laws like that enforced.

That's what the socialists tell you with their propaganda. There's nothing to be embarrassed by falling for that. I fell for that too when I was younger.

Socialism is about robbing you through the legal system then giving back pocket change to you… in such a way that it provides an ILLUSION that the government is so kind so as to give you little candy treats. But in reality, that is really YOUR money.

Nothing's changed. Read Politics of Obedience by Etienne de la Boeti. There's a part where he talks about how the ancient dictators would tax their people so much and then provide bread and circus and a few festivals here and there… and then the people would be so happy and entertained and start praising the king about how great he is. That was written in the 16th century and if you read it, it seems like it was written two days ago because its so relevant to this very day.

The point is, most of your taxes go to the pockets of the big boys and you only receive pocket change.


Maybe instead of just blaming the police, you two, you could work on your driving skills?

I'm a safe driver. Clean driving record. I always drive defensively. I always anticipate the other driver (and pedestrians and cyclists) to do something stupid so I'm prepared to do evasive action. I never tailgate. I always maintain ample space around my car and I try my best not to be driving beside another vehicle especially if its a truck.

Anyway, why should the police be free from blame?

Are they infinitely just gods who cannot deceive nor can be deceived?

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Mr Lostman at 4:22PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Maybe instead of just blaming the police, you two, you could work on your driving skills?

I'm a safe driver. Clean driving record. I always drive defensively. I always anticipate the other driver (and pedestrians and cyclists) to do something stupid so I'm prepared to do evasive action. I never tailgate. I always maintain ample space around my car and I try my best not to be driving beside another vehicle especially if its a truck.

Anyway, why should the police be free from blame?

Are they infinitely just gods who cannot deceive nor can be deceived?
Have you been unfairly pulled over? And if so, are you lumping all cops together?
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kyupol at 5:25PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Maybe instead of just blaming the police, you two, you could work on your driving skills?

I'm a safe driver. Clean driving record. I always drive defensively. I always anticipate the other driver (and pedestrians and cyclists) to do something stupid so I'm prepared to do evasive action. I never tailgate. I always maintain ample space around my car and I try my best not to be driving beside another vehicle especially if its a truck.

Anyway, why should the police be free from blame?

Are they infinitely just gods who cannot deceive nor can be deceived?
Have you been unfairly pulled over? And if so, are you lumping all cops together?

Of course there are good people within the police force.

In fact, I believe that most of them are naive young people who join the force with idealistic good reasons, then later become corrupted by the system itself.

Ask yourself.
- what kind of system enforces ticket quotas on the police officers so they can keep their jobs? If a policeman lags behind the ticket quota, don't you think that there's a big temptation to make up stuff?

- what kind of system gives a policeman who choked an ambulance driver a mere 5 days suspension?

The system is corrupt. If you are a good person, to survive in such a system, you must have the traits of a sociopath or just quit.
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Faliat at 5:36PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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It's been illegal in the UK for years but every time I've seen it happen on the road nobody deals with it. Not even the police sometimes.

Aparently driving with a phone making any kind of call on your handset is more dangerous than drink driving.

And you get jailed for years when you drink drive.

Seriously. It needs tougher penalties. And it needs them ENFORCED.

BTW, that girl's screaming after the car crashes is so fake it just makes it more funny than tragic.
As well as the cheesy splatter effects.
And why does it say two vehicles were involved when a THIRD one came in and rammed the car again?
And what about that daft kid asking about her parents not waking up?
Also, the character's don't seem that relateable. I know it's a PSA and it's supposed to be short. But Could they have had less annoying characters in it so that you weren't HAPPY they crashed?

If you wanna see the way this should've been done, take a gander at this one:


Just make the driver guy texting to a workmate to let them know he'll be late and then you have a much better result.

Call that jumped up metal rod a knife?
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Product Placement at 6:02PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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I'm reminded of an incident now where this elderly lady was fined for eating an apple whilst driving her car.

The reasoning of course was the same as the cell phone, since she didn't have both hands free while driving, she was considered to be a reckless driver.

And as previously stated, using a hands free phone has been proven to distract the driver as well. Same thing can be said about a passenger sitting in the car, talking to the driver.

Point is, allot of things can distract the driver. It would be impossible to fully restrict the driver from those distractions short of encasing the driver's seat in a protective bubble, that would prevent the driver from interacting with anything else inside the car.
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Faliat at 6:49PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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It's not about distraction, it's about being able to get your hands to get to where they have to be fast enough and being able to see around you so you can deal with dangers. You need both your hands free.

Another reason why handsets are more dangerous is pretty easy to demostrate.

If you put either hand against either ear, it decreases your field of vision and what your hand won't let you see, your ARM is even more in the way.

As a result, texting should be even MORE dangerous than making a regular call because you're not seeing the road AT ALL unless you take your mind off what you're typing.

If it was just the hearing and following another conversation that was such a major distraction, why do they have radios, tape players, headphone jacks for MP3s and CD drives built into cars and why are DEAF people allowed to drive here?

You're probably LESS likely to have an accident when there's someone sitting in the car with you. Because it's an extra pair of eyes as well as a driving critic. If you're driving too dangerously, unless they're stupid they'll usually warn you about it and/or complain. Especially if it's a passenger that likes to nag a lot or a family member… Technically they're usually the same thing.

Call that jumped up metal rod a knife?
Watch mine go straight through a kevlar table, and if it dunt do the same to a certain gaixan's skull in my immediate vicinity after, I GET A F*****G REFUND! BUKKO, AH?!

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kyupol at 6:54PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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I'm more worried about the police than distracted drivers.
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Freegurt at 7:21PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Here ya go~~~

http://www.unews.utah.edu/p/?r=062206-1

I seriously am terrified of driving behind twits who are on their cell phone.
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Mr Lostman at 7:28PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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So, Kyupol, have you ever been pulled over? Or at least seen this actually going on?
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Daiconv at 9:00PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Oh man, I saw this at work. I work at a driving school and they eat this sort of thing up.
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isukun at 9:08PM, Aug. 27, 2009
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Are we such little children that the Nanny state needs to be watching behind our back to make sure we are safe?

Oh God YES! Yes we are. I have never had my physical safety threatened by a cop, but have been hit TWICE by people talking on cell phones. So yes, there is a large enough number of irresponsible and stupid people in this country that laws like this are necessary, and quite frankly, I'm glad I'm in a state now where it is illegal to talk or text on your phone while driving.

And really, outlawing common sense idiocy like this isn't going to make cops any more or less corrupt than they already are.

And as previously stated, using a hands free phone has been proven to distract the driver as well. Same thing can be said about a passenger sitting in the car, talking to the driver.

I find the opposite to be true. Having another person there keeps me more alert and aware of my surroudings. When I drive alone, I tend to get drowsy and fall asleep behind the wheel. Something about cars I find very relaxing.

I'm a safe driver. Clean driving record. I always drive defensively. I always anticipate the other driver (and pedestrians and cyclists) to do something stupid so I'm prepared to do evasive action. I never tailgate. I always maintain ample space around my car and I try my best not to be driving beside another vehicle especially if its a truck.

You can never anticipate every situation, especially when you're barrelling down a crowded highway at 70MPH. I know this from experience. I remember seeing one particularly bad accident once where a guy was driving normally, slowly passing a car in the middle lane. The car in the middle lane was slowly passing the car in the right lane. Nobody was showing any signs of problems and suddenly, out of the blue, the car in theleft lane lost control and skidded sideways into the middle lane. The guy in the middle slammed on his brakes, but there was no way to avoid the car in front of him. At least he was smart enough not to drag other people into it by swerving on the right and hitting the car next to him. The cause of the whole thing was a totally unavoidable blowout.
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PIT_FACE at 8:47AM, Aug. 28, 2009
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Really, Kyupol? There extensive studies done that prove that seatbelts improve your chances of surviving a colloision.

I agree. And I will wear my seatbelt for my own safety due to common sense.

What I'm arguing here is the PRINCIPLE of government intrusion into our lives. Are we such little children that the Nanny state needs to be watching behind our back to make sure we are safe?

Are you an adult or a child who needs Big Brother to watch over you?

adult or child? that's dumbing it down dont you think? yeah im an adult,you know why? i can drive without texting or calling people. there are alot of people who cant do this though.those people ARE childrem. at least in this instance.we keep on saying “it's dangerous! dont do it!” but it's not hitting home. people are still running over kids on the way to school or hitting trees or sling shotting themselves under semis. it puts themselves AND other people in danger and they still dont fuckin get it, so you know what?they do need this. there's alot of people out there that dont care about this shit unless it mean they might get in trouble so fine. bring it on. we can ease up on this “intrusion” once people learn some damn autononimous respinsability. that means you understand what you do has consequences and a self-sustaining people is useless with out it. fix this and THEN you can shake off you're overbearing government.
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