Now, I don't want to debate the minutae of the welfare system. I agree there are problems. But there would be consequences if you were to just remove the system. It seems to me that if we were a responsible and rational country there could be a system put in place that does encourage entering the work force and discourage generational welfare families. Even still, the abuse to the welfare system is nothing compared to the people receiving corporate welfare on the opposite side of the economic spectrum. Neither is right though.
I agree I don't think abolishing the welfare system is the answer, some people really do need it. then again many dont. and many feel that they are entitled to those services. That is my major issue with all that we have been talking about. its what parents are teaching their kids, whether its government handouts and the “entitlement mentality” or its the demonization of firearms, by governments that want an easier to control populace. the fact of the matter is that our “morals” or whatever you want to call it, is deteriorating and all I see as the politicians way of handling it is band-aids. its just one band-aid after the other right untill we are in the poor house. My problem is that they never want to fix the problem they just want you to feel better about it i.e. “my fellow Americans we know that crime rate is high so we are going to put a ban on hand guns. so now you at least, will be less likely to get shot when your getting robbed!” or "my fellow Americans we know that money is tight and food is scarce, so instead of letting you keep just a little bit more of your money we are going to take just a little bit more from you, and then WE will feed you so you will not have to worry about it!" now I realize that I'm over exaggerating the situation to make a point but, that is truly how I feel every time I hear of a new program or an new ban on anything
The rich do use more government services than the poor. This government especially has been corrupted to the rich get much more access to the government than the poor.
But more than that, a hardworking person who earns $15,000 per year will suffer much more with a 15% tax than a millionaire will.
I still don't know where you are coming from with this stuff, what programs help the rich?? votes are by and large middle and lower class. thus programs are geared towards them. If you make them dependent on you for their quality of life then they will always vote for you for fear of losing that.
you are right, to instill a flat tax right now would be a detriment to the poor who often pay very little taxes and a benefit to the rich who often pay large amounts. yet it is the only fair way! 15% is 15% that's it. with a flat tax even the lowest earner is helping our country, and it would eliminate many of the loopholes the extremely wealthy use to get out of paying taxes. I say flat tax with a 50% tax credit for non profits. meaning you could either pay your taxes to the government and let them apportion it for you or you could take 50% of your taxes and give it to the non profit of your choice, with this system the “people” would decide what social programs are most important for their communities and not the government. instilling a sense of responsibility for your own community while still allowing for plenty of money for public works. And in the long term the benefit would be even greater because then the people would be voting on who is best for the country, and not who is going to make my life more comfortable.