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The Zombie invasion is upon us, choose your weapons!
skoolmunkee at 3:03PM, March 8, 2007
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reconjsh, it's you and me with the aluminum baseball bats I think. That means you're on my team, and since you're on a team with an admin, that means you're guaranteed not to die! :D Yay for us.

I didn't follow the whole sword vs. bat agrument, all I know is that I'd feel silly waving a sword around, and also if I drop a baseball bat I won't slice my own foot off. Also I chose it for all-around usefulness, maybe if I had to slice some carrots like a ninja turtle a sword would be useful, but a bat is good for smashin' anything not just zombies. T_T

I think my 4th weapon would be something pointy, like a hatchet or a big knife or an icepick.
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reconjsh at 3:28PM, March 8, 2007
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I'm honored that an admin and a mod are fighting over me to be on their team. I feel I should have shared something with you guys a long time ago.

I… I… I was bitten yesterday, right here on my arm which I've so cleverly hidden from you and in no way hindered my ability to weild my baseball bat with samurai grace. *shows festering wound on arm* And I've only now just realized that I'm soon to be zombie chowder. I just wanted you guys to know I never meant to hurt… *cough, hack, blood spurts from mouth*… you…

Please… kill *weeze* me… qui… cklyyyyyyyyy. *last, feint exhale*

ReconJSH slumps and remains motionless, a thick line of blood oozing from his agape mouth. The large-breasted cheerleader in torn clothes who is most definitely ‘not’ a whore kneels down to mourn the 18th man she's ever loved. As she draws nearer for one final embrace, Recon's hand twitches slightly, but not so anyone will notice until it's too late.

The background music that you've been oblivious to for some time now grows to an intense climatic…. pause?

A moment of silence…

RAWR!

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HeHe. On a side note, my comic features zombies: they're called “The Fallen”. My comic isn't quite started yet, currently I'm just posting some character sketches and stuff while I get about 8 pages ahead so I don't ever miss an update. Check it out and fav it for later if you like zombie bashing.
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CorruptComics at 3:53PM, March 8, 2007
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milla jovovich

Bruce Campbell>Milla Jovovich

what? no way!
bruce will probably make out with milla, thus ending my fantasty of last man on earth scenario with milla =)

True enough, because if it's down to you, Bruce, and Milla, Bruce already is the last man left on earth.


Zombies are people too dammit!
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reconjsh at 3:59PM, March 8, 2007
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For all you zombie lovers, here's an exclusive sneak peek at a thrown-out page of my comic with zombies on it. It's only about 30-40% inked because we actually decided not to use it. Reason: as you can see, it has boring panels (angles, perspective, etc). So I don't feel bad showing this because it won't spoil anything later. :)

I jump around the page alot when I ink digitally. Enjoy. We call the nearest zombie “zombie elvis”.



Pencils: Adam Davis
Inks: Me
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WingNut at 4:08PM, March 8, 2007
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Ooo! Very nice, very nice indeed.

Speaking of Zombie Related projects, I'm currently making a graphic novel of the outbreak of the zombie apocolypse. Not gonna be in the usual AT style, but much darker and grittier. Also, that “Zombies? Please…we play video games.” picture, yeah, I'm changing that up to suit the Acquired Taste characters and I'm making a shirt. ;D

-W
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LIZARD_B1TE at 4:08PM, March 8, 2007
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Please… kill *weeze* me… qui… cklyyyyyyyyy. *last, feint exhale*

K. *blows your head off with a shotgun*

EDIT: This thread makes me want to update Grim and Bob, but not enough, I feel so unmotivated with that Comic… I think I'll write a play based on it!
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reconjsh at 4:19PM, March 8, 2007
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Ooo! Very nice, very nice indeed.

Speaking of Zombie Related projects, I'm currently making a graphic novel of the outbreak of the zombie apocolypse. Not gonna be in the usual AT style, but much darker and grittier. Also, that “Zombies? Please…we play video games.” picture, yeah, I'm changing that up to suit the Acquired Taste characters and I'm making a shirt. ;D

-W

I want royalties for using my likeness… lol. j/k, but seriously, let me know if you do a T-Shirt… might be worth buying.
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Generic Human at 7:23PM, March 8, 2007
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Speaking of Zombie Related projects, I'm currently making a graphic novel of the outbreak of the zombie apocolypse. Not gonna be in the usual AT style, but much darker and grittier. Also, that “Zombies? Please…we play video games.” picture, yeah, I'm changing that up to suit the Acquired Taste characters and I'm making a shirt. ;D

-W

I think you should leave my face on there. Keep people wondering, on the edge. …eh.

And of zombie related projects, I'm co-working a script with a friend. What he's written so far is really cool.
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Amelius at 12:53AM, March 9, 2007
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OOO, nice topic!

Weapons of choice:
Two-by-four with nail in it, if I'm in a scrape (too many nails would likely stick though…)
A push-lawnmower(anybody get that reference? Anybody?)
Bean-bag launcher…the type they fire on riotous crowds. At least the ammo would be easier to refill (I'm not well informed on the mechanism of said non-lethal weapon, but I know it can leave a nasty bruise and if it can knock you down that's quite enough force for a zombie concussion)Hopefully TV didn't misinformed me…perhaps a slingshot with heavy ball-bearings would work as well.
Mayhaps even a nailgun. Of course these are just things I'm reasonably certain I could get my hands on (except the beanbag gun)

It seems in most instances elevation is a key factor in successful zombie-slaughterin'. Facing them at ground level seems prone to stupid mistakes…like slipping on guts and sliding right into the fray on your backside. Sure, it's cool and hardcore to take them head-on with a blunt object, but I'd take the cowardly “squirrel” approach myself. Pick them off where they can't reach me.
I'd think that flamethrowers or setting them on fire wouldn't work so well since they pretty much ignore the fact they're on fire(in most cases) but they'd probably keep trudging on and just set all your good escape routes/hideouts aflame before they “burn-out”.
I'd probably hang out at the local department store (Being that I'm from MI it'd the be Meijer. Yay Meijer!) which is basically the equivalant of an S-Mart…(hey, Bruce Campbell is also from MI, heh!) oh yeah, housewares does have some nice zombie-trouncing aresenal at hand. (machetes, chainsaws,hedgclippers, terracotta lawn animals…)And the nice part is mobile ladders…for some good elevated travel to the aisles I need. (Gosh…I feel bad for the live pet aisle)
Sadly…I've spent a lot of time thinking this sort of thing over. Next to dinosaurs and tidal waves, zombies hordes are my most frequent bad-dream subjects.

Oh and yay for impending zombie-related projects! I was gonna do something about zombie roadkill before I started my other 2 comics. It was…pretty lame.
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kingofsnake at 7:38AM, March 9, 2007
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Mayhaps even a nailgun.

You and be, we'll be nailing zombies to crap all over the place

Amelius
Next to dinosaurs and tidal waves, zombies hordes are my most frequent bad-dream subjects.

For me any dream with zombie hordes is a good one.
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reconjsh at 7:50AM, March 9, 2007
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I know this isn't a zombie debate thread… but since more than one person has mentioned it, I'll ask.

Why a nail gun?

Do you mean like a video game nail gun? Or a construction tool nail gun? Because the latter seems like it'd be ineffective. Most are air powered, others are battery… both have limititions due to energy source availablility. They're not made for firing nails as projectiles, so they're not balanced like a hand gun is for full arm extension. Also, it doesn't seem like a nail would have that significant of an impact, even with a percect head shot.

I guess I'm just curious why you guys chose that.

Thanks,
~Jerome~
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kingofsnake at 8:01AM, March 9, 2007
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I listed all my reasons in an earlier post. A nail gun doesn't have the range as a handgun, agreed, but a handgun is going to be for use with medium range zombies anyway. You don't have good enough accuracy for distance shots, it would be a waste of ammo. So if you acclimate yourself to the idea of a medium distance weapon, I think a nailgun (against zombies) would be superior, if for no other reason than the readiness of ammunition. A head shot is a head shot whether with a nail or a bullet. You're going to have a grace period where you're not used to the weight or firing of the nailgun, but you're going to have that with a handgun too if you're not familiar with it.
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AQua_ng at 9:03AM, March 9, 2007
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Assuming we're talking about the generic slow-moving hoarde of the undead, I should give you a few facts.

-A zombie's life span is around 3-6 years, before the brain decays from the worms.

-Fire never works. It can't hurt zombies and it would just make a beacon shouting “Hey! You guys! Some meat is over here!” Just because it burns us doesn't mean the brain will fry.

-No Leeroy Jenkins'ing out there. It's a waste of ammo, time and will give the zombie army another recruit in the ranks.

-Shopping malls, police stations. HELL NO MOFO. It will be impossible to survive there with all the other citizens running about with their own morals. The worse thing is to be trapped in a building of zombified fellows. Avoid if possible.

-Elevation is an obvious thing to do, but ONLY if you know what to do about supplies. I recommend bunk at a friend's house on a steep hill. Unless that place is writhing with the undead.

-Zombies may be stupid, but they have heightened smells, sight and hearing.

-Don't try and act like a zombie. It never works (except in SotD, but that's just a movie).

-With transport, the best bet is the bicycle. No need for fuelling, has no problems in traffic, and you could use it as a weapons if you want.

-When choosing a weapons, factor in, avaliabilty, durability, ammo, skill required and damage. A mix of long ranged and short ranged weapons are suited for whatever comes.

-Armour? Short and tight. We need a fast getwaway from them, not a huge plate of armour that slows you down. Same applies to hair.

-A risky chance, but it is thought to be possible to elude the hoarde with mirrors.

-Go to the countryside. Animals aplenty, trees for cover and height, and few people would be there in the first place to be zombified.


And now you know.

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Red Slayer at 9:28AM, March 9, 2007
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Fire never works. It can't hurt zombies and it would just make a beacon shouting “Hey! You guys! Some meat is over here!” Just because it burns us doesn't mean the brain will fry.

And instead of having a slow horde you will end with a burning legion.

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CorruptComics at 12:07PM, March 9, 2007
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-Don't try and act like a zombie. It never works (except in SotD, but that's just a movie).

You do as the majority of the movies before you!
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Generic Human at 1:08PM, March 9, 2007
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And instead of having a slow horde you will end with a burning legion.


that would be a really cool picture to draw. Imagine Bruce Cambell standing on a cliff, torch in hand, overlooking a sea of zombies on fire! S-mart brand cans of gasoline would be scattered all over the ground. A storm brewing in the background. And the wind would be blowing just enough to give Cambell's hair some great lift and make the fire look more dynamic.
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subcultured at 2:53PM, March 9, 2007
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maaaan i wish bruce cambell had more good movies in hollywierd. he's a funny actor and had became typecasted =(. now that he's getting older he can't do too much crazy stuff anymore.

first time i saw him was not in an evil dead movie, but as brisco county jr.
J
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emjee at 2:56PM, March 9, 2007
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Ok, my weapons would be:

1. one of those long crowbar things - They are durable, metal, not really that heavy and can double as a tool.

2. A sludge Hammer - tool/short range weapon incase a zombie gets too close

3. Alcohol and dirty rags too light on fire - Maybe I need to clear out a building/street/room

4. Tazer - Because it would be funny :D



If I were to be hled up somewhere, it would be in Walmart in a very small group. Why Walmart? Because not only do they have low prices, they hold tools, bathrooms, clothes, food, water, medicine and a camping isle. It's also a really big place, which is a draw back, but there aren't many exits or windows.

Walmart also tends to be around outdoor malls or plazas, so if we run out of certain provisions, we could raid the surrounding stores. That's even if we can go outside. Depending on the amount of zombies. Will it be like Dawn of the Dead? 28 Days later? Or night of the Living dead?

Cuz, depending on the zombies, we are either screwed and should kill our selves, or we could wait it out.
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emjee at 3:00PM, March 9, 2007
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3. Alcohol and dirty rags too light on fire - Maybe I need to clear out a building/street/room

This would be for light. Or if these aren't generic undead, to scare them off.
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LIZARD_B1TE at 3:01PM, March 9, 2007
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And instead of having a slow horde you will end with a burning legion.

lol!

OK, in response to Aqua's post, I feel I should point out what my own research as led me to conclude:

The Hive Theory: Zombies will never turn on eachother, as they are incapable of individual thought. Just because they're dumb doesn't mean they act like animals and eat eachother when they need food. Many Zombologists argue the reason for this, but my own research has led me to believe that they have a hive mind, which means that there must be some kind of zombie queen or overlord or something out there.

The Parasite Hypothesis: It should be noted that undeath is not the only mutation cause by zombie-ism. Studies of Zombie bodies have shown zombologists that zombies develop sharpened canines with venom glands when they turn. This venom seems to be what passes the disease to others, leading zombologists to theorize that zombie-ism may be caused by a parasite. Since zombies may be dispatched buy destroying the brain, it is believed that the parasites make their home there, and that this is where new parasites are born. However, lack of in-tact zombie brains makes this difficult to test. So it may or may not be true.

The Head Law: It is a common misconception that decapitation can kill a zombie. This, however, is false. Decapitation will merely render the body motionless. The head will remain a threat until the brain is destroyed. Severing the spinal chord has been shown to immobilize zombies, but keep in mind that they are still alive, and you shouldn't get too close. Also, the Hive Theory shows that even when paralyzed, the other zombies will know where you are. We reccomend ripping out the eyes of paralyzed zombies, if for some reason you can't just kill it.

The Animal Theory: Though animals are rarely infected, it is not unheard of. Some Zombologists believe that different strains of infection may exist, some of which infect animals.

I hope that these help. We here at the Institute of Zombological Studies (IZS) strive to help rid the world of these moaning menances.
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emjee at 3:08PM, March 9, 2007
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…oh yeah, housewares does have some nice zombie-trouncing aresenal at hand. (machetes, chainsaws,hedgclippers, terracotta lawn animals…
These are good to use for if they get too close. Like you said, picking them off from far away would be better. Also, some of these are messy. Someone mentioned the heightened senses, so the blood from the Zombies could either attract them to you, or make you blend in.
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skoolmunkee at 4:45PM, March 9, 2007
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I listed all my reasons in an earlier post. A nail gun doesn't have the range as a handgun, agreed, but a handgun is going to be for use with medium range zombies anyway. You don't have good enough accuracy for distance shots, it would be a waste of ammo. So if you acclimate yourself to the idea of a medium distance weapon, I think a nailgun (against zombies) would be superior, if for no other reason than the readiness of ammunition. A head shot is a head shot whether with a nail or a bullet. You're going to have a grace period where you're not used to the weight or firing of the nailgun, but you're going to have that with a handgun too if you're not familiar with it.

I dunno man, the nail guns I've used didn't really impress me as zombie killin' things. Plus you get nail jams and stuff.

Besides, if you fire a nail gun at a zombie you just get a zombie with a nail in its head. Nails are pretty clean wounds and I don't think they'd destroy the brain so much, just maybe poke a couple holes in it, I can't imagine a zombie being too affected by it. The advantage of the bullet is that it usually makes a big hole in the head and things go explodey.
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Amelius at 10:05PM, March 9, 2007
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Ah yesh, the nail-gun bit was just a thought of “what can I readily use in a hardware store?” (or as it was, the hardware section of the store I'm in) and having observed the way people take out zombies in movies, it doesn't seem that you need to blow off a zombie's head to kill it, just cause enough concussion or some sort of damage. Of course I gather this from having observed zombies being killed by screwdrivers through the ear (courtesty of Dawn of the Dead) to getting an ashtray to the forehead (SoTD).
If you had to destroy the brain completely, it would rule out the “smashy with blunt object” alternatives altogether. For the most part it seems “hit & go”, whereas you'd have to hit them several times to take down a single one (not good in a crowd of ‘em)
As mentioned, the readiness of ammo was a strong point there, even if it’s weak ammo.
I honestly couldn't tell you where to find a real gun store in my area anyway. Instead of practical zombie-eliminating weapons (like a bazooka or a bulldozer) the nailgun just kinda popped in there. (plus I could yell “Ha! Nailed ‘em!”)
It really depends on where I am at the time of this zombie takeover. Heck, bowling balls would seem to be good in close combat even. Barbells, computer moniters, a backpack full of rocks…seems that anything is affective if used right. If I’m on the low ground, darn right I'd pick up something that'll be useful away from the plug.
Plus, I don't think I can get them to cooperate for my elaborate Rube Goldberg zombie killing machine I set up…
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Zad at 11:15PM, March 9, 2007
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Ehehe..i thought this would be a kewl thread at first, but 4 pages, a dark room,and my fear of the dark later, I AM SOO CREEPED OUT!!!!! :)
Lessee…what should i use?
1.Uhh…. >…<









Edit:
Does it automatically say edit? Do i need to type it??
Anyways, OMG FIRST POST YAY!
**huggling of the Zeno doll**
And yes, I love Zeno :3
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Beaums at 11:53PM, March 9, 2007
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Hm, let's see…

Aluminum baseball bat - light, yet strong. I'd have said a regular bat but I don't think they're as durable. Good for hittin'! Also you could use it as a walking stick! (And for playing baseball if you can find enough other living people and an empty field without zombies, and a baseball.)

That shovel-weapon from World War Z - fictional, and I can't remember what it was called, but it was effective in the book, plus you could dig stuff with it. T_T All those close-range stuff is for emergencies, not a first choice, that would be guns.

A handgun and a rifle - I dunno much about guns but I figure you'd want a gun too so you don't have to get up close and kill them. I listed both kinds because… I don't know which is better for stuff. Though a rifle would make 3 big weapons so maybe just.. 2 handguns or something.

I wonder if nerve gas would hurt zombies. I mean, their brains are important, and damaging them physically kills them.

I'm going to have to agree with skoolmunkee on this one. Nothing beats bashing a zombie's head into a bloody pulp with a baseball bat. NOTHING! But really, anything that creates a bloody splatter effect is formidable for fighting off a zombie horde. Oh! And and and, what about a wooden cricket bat guys?! Shawn of the Dead anybody? I'd go completely old school if a swarm of zombies came my way. I'd probably have a better chance of survival with arsenal of guns, but fightin' up close n' personal with the zombies would be a mind warping experience. Straight up.

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AQua_ng at 1:02AM, March 10, 2007
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Now, we shall do a quick run through of the zombie outbreaks classes.

Class 1: Rural outbreak, just a small village/town.

Class 2: Large city, e.g. London.

Class 3: National scale, like Germany.

Class 4: OH NOES!

I recommend reading this. Very useful.

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reconjsh at 1:17AM, March 10, 2007
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I recommend reading this. Very useful.

I want to say for the record that I didn't see “nail gun” listed in that Survival Guide, lol.
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AQua_ng at 1:41AM, March 10, 2007
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I'm getting paranoid now…

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ozoneocean at 3:51AM, March 10, 2007
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Bugger personal weapons! I'm with Phantom Penguin and Inkmonkey! A fricken Tank. Although I might try one of those funky new Russian Black Eagle tanks…

My other choice of weapon is a WW2 Queen Elizabeth class Battleship. Heh. They couldn't TOUCH me. I'd have a lovely looking weapon (with a whole crew too of course), sit back off the coast and pound them into dogfood with the big guns.

Thirdly I'd use a Mil-Mi Hind E fitted out with rotary machine-gun pods on the stub wings, and extra fuel containers inside the cabin. Seeing as the guns are all forward firing and undirected I don't even need a gunner!
With the maximum guns that's four pods, each with one 12.7mm (50cal) four barrel rotary gun and two 7.62 mm four barrel rotary guns, making a total of 12 very deadly machine guns, plus the twin barrelled 23mm cannon on the side of the cockpit… Pretty formidable.

But for guns to carry to fight off a horde of stupid zombies, I'll take my lesson from the excellent Boxhead Zombie game: a high capacity fast-firing shotgun is the way to go! Preferably belt fed. Ha! That's right, gimme a shotgun machinegun that loads from a belt. I could carry a pack for it on my back.
Groovy.
 
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Zad at 7:10AM, March 10, 2007
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I am to lazy to read the guide, so i'll just take my chances with my theory.
Did anyone notice that the main chracter of the movies and his/her love always make it out???? I'm just gonna hit on some movie star and hope it works >.<
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