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TMNT: The NEW Movie Yay or Nay?
Chelano at 7:53AM, July 28, 2006
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/teenagemutantninjaturtles/

You be the judge

yay

or

nay
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PhatScurl at 11:37AM, July 28, 2006
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Hollywood has finally manage to kill my childhood…geez, i hate full CGI action movies. The first movie kicked so much ass, but this…this just looks like its gonna suck
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Chelano at 11:58AM, July 28, 2006
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i think it looks pretty sweet. It will be a big improvement hopefully from the NEW cartoon that came out and RUINED them. But the only thing I don't like is the eyes.
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SarahN at 12:20PM, July 28, 2006
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Looks interesting. :-) I hope it's good.
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Mimarin at 1:35PM, July 28, 2006
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Any word on who they are up against? I hope Krang, Krang was awsomesauce.
Of course you will. All intelligent beings dream. Nobody knows why.

Also, tell random people they are awsome! it helps!
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isukun at 2:50PM, July 28, 2006
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They've stated that they want it to take place in the sae universe from the movies, but have more of a comic feel. Whether it turns out to be good or not will depend on whether it follows more in the footsteps of the comics or the commercialized garbage that was the original TV series. The first movie actually took plot elements from the comics, even if it made it a little more kid friendly. Afterwards they tried too hard to appeal to the audience that was watching the TV show.

So far, I like the look of it. When I saw the still shots I wasn't too thrilled, but it looks much better in motion. I'll probably go see it just to see if it can breath life back into the franchise.

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Inkmonkey at 4:17PM, July 28, 2006
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Turtle Power!!!!!

So… I guess that's a “yay”
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Hawk at 7:53PM, July 28, 2006
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Looks really nice, visually, and Mikey's voice sounded right. Not much else to judge it on. I didn't like how their necks look, but that's no deal breaker. What COULD be a deal breaker is how the humans look. They're a lot harder to do than the Turtles and could potentially look awful.

But then there's the story, what it's all about. I hope it's some good old-fashioned fighting the Shredder action.
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Inkmonkey at 11:00PM, July 28, 2006
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I'd find it hard to believe that the turtles are in the Big Apple if there aren't a good number of at least background human characters.
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alejkhan at 11:20PM, July 28, 2006
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I'm definitely interested in this one, especially if, as they say, it is going to be more like the comics. Those were some great comics. I am a bit disappointed at the lack of Shredder, but more importantly, a movie with Krang would be amazing. His voice was priceless! I read though that the story is going to be about how the Turtles are no longer a cohesive fighting team, Leonardo storming off not being to take the pressure and going solo or something, and about them all getting back their ninja turtely groove.

I'm glad that it is entirely in CG - it gives animation, at least in the West, a bit more credibility as a feature film - animated feature films just don't ever get taken seriously, at least a lot less than CG ones. Not that it should be “serious” or trying to contend for an Oscar or something, but it won't automatically be branded as a kid movie, I hope. From the trailer it looks like it has a nice dark edge, with some classic TMNT humor. And that should make it worth the making.
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Hguyver at 9:01PM, July 29, 2006
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Yay for me.

I think it look pretty cool. The CG thing is probably going to allow it to appeal to younger audiences since that's the way most animated movies seem to be going.

The ending of the trailer was great. I'll be holding out for it.
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Inkmonkey at 9:16PM, July 29, 2006
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I'd find it hard to believe that the turtles are in the Big Apple if there aren't a good number of at least background human characters.
Keep in mind we're talking about giant talking fighting turtles here. I think there's a lot about this movie that's hard to believe.

The thing about that, though, is that the giant talking turtles still have to be like the Ninja Turtles, more or less as they have appeared in other media over the years. If Raphael isn't tough but rude, and Michaelangelo isn't a party dude, then I'm not going to be able to accept them as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They'll just be giant talking fighting turtles.

In that same vein, as someone who has been to New York, the fact that way too many people live there is an important part of what it is, and if the whole city is magically empty it will be hard to accept. Granted, if they kept the Turtles exclusively in the sewers and on top of roofs (where they usually aren't any people), then it might be a bit easier to swallow, but that could come off as a bit forced.

Personally, though, I do hope that human characters are kept in the background. I don't think we need another plucky teen who accidentally wanders in on the Turtles and becomes their bestest buddy.
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Hguyver at 9:21PM, July 29, 2006
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Personally, though, I do hope that human characters are kept in the background. I don't think we need another plucky teen who accidentally wanders in on the Turtles and becomes their bestest buddy.

Ah, yes TMNT II, That was a bit hard to swallow wasn't it?
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Hguyver at 9:25PM, July 29, 2006
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Ah yes, that too. Even the super shedder couldn't have saved that movie.
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isukun at 1:09PM, July 30, 2006
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Granted, if they kept the Turtles exclusively in the sewers and on top of roofs (where they usually aren't any people), then it might be a bit easier to swallow, but that could come off as a bit forced.

I don't see why it would seem forced. They were genetic freaks and in the comics they did shy away from placed with a lot of people. For the most part, you didn't see them wandering the streets, they kept to rooftops, sewers, and the occasional back alley. I would be kind of disappointed if they were stupid enough to take their fights into a crowded nightclub again.

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Hguyver at 3:29PM, July 30, 2006
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Yeah, that really wasn't very ‘ninja-ish.’
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Inkmonkey at 4:22PM, July 30, 2006
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That's a good point, but still, I think some level of human element helps to ground the concept, and gives a nice reference point for just how odd things are for the boys.
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Chelano at 7:39AM, July 31, 2006
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The movies had good voices. The old cartoon, the voices were ok. The NEW cartoon….ouch…

This new movie….I really hope they choose good voices.
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Inkmonkey at 8:39AM, July 31, 2006
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What was wrong with the voices in the new cartoon? I agree that they weren't as good as the movie voices (no Corey Feldman?) but I think they were of very good quality.

Really, I didn't have any complaints about the new series until they revealed that Shredder was an alien…
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Inkmonkey at 10:27AM, July 31, 2006
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Yeah, they basically mashed Shredder and Krang into a single character.
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Chelano at 12:33PM, July 31, 2006
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What was wrong with the voices in the new cartoon? I agree that they weren't as good as the movie voices (no Corey Feldman?) but I think they were of very good quality.

Really, I didn't have any complaints about the new series until they revealed that Shredder was an alien…

I dunno man. I just didnt like the voices very much. As for shredder…..Hmm ninja with a big alien brain (o_O). Weird
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isukun at 12:47PM, July 31, 2006
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I doubt they even had Krang in mind when they made the Shredder into an alien in the new series. Krang was a complete bastardization of a race of aliens from the original comics. In the comics, they aren't even evil, but I can see why the makers of the new show would want to change things. It's not like they could kill off the Shredder in the first episode. Plus they seemed to be shooting for some level of continuity between the various stories from the comics.

In general though, the new show tries much harder to appeal to the fans of the original comics with some story arcs taken directly from the comics. Some are almost completely unchanged, as well.

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Hguyver at 1:19PM, July 31, 2006
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I've never actually seen the original comic book series. But I've always thought the new series was alright.

Also, even though he was an alien in a robot suit thing, the new shedder was a lot more badass than the old one was. I mean, from the old series, what kind of master evil ninja needs to get a semi-retared mutant pig and rhino to do his dirty work for him?
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Hawk at 6:49PM, July 31, 2006
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Yeah, the original show shredder became a joke. They didn't try at all to maintain his dignity. I've only seen the first season of the new show, but it feels like they did a much better job in that respect. But I was disappointed when I found out they made him an alien.
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isukun at 7:06PM, July 31, 2006
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He wouldn't have been much of a villain if they completely followed the comic storyline, though. He dies in the first comic. They bring him back later, but I'm not sure I like the “cloning worm” idea better than what they chose to do in the new TV series.

I've never actually seen the original comic book series.

I haven't really looked into whether they have reprinted the graphic novels or not, but you can find the first two issues on this site. Just go to the comics section and scroll to the bottom.

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Inkmonkey at 7:12PM, July 31, 2006
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The thing about making him an alien in a robot suit is that doing so makes everything he does that much less impressive. Then it's not a highly trained, expert warrior who, through pure cunning and skill, can defeat 4 Superhuman creatures capable of defeating a veritable army of his own soldiers. When you reduce it to, “it's a robot”, then you think, “Well, yeah, any idiot could have done that if they had a robot suit to do all the hard work for them.” Aside from that, his history with Splinter's master is pretty ruined too. There was something real to a feud fueled by jealousy and love and what have you; there's nothing behind “alien fight”. It takes everything about the character out of perspective, and makes him impossible to relate to. He's a completely flat character now, with simple “take over world” goal with no real motivation.

It's like in Batman & Robin when Bane was reduced to a simple lackey, whereas in the comic he was nearly Batman's mental equal.
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rainealchemist at 8:31PM, Oct. 3, 2006
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I loved the 80's TMNT movies. They where great and still are good movies. I'm just wondering if this movie is going to be all cgi or live action. I liked it better when it was live action, like the ones they made in the 80's i loved those TMNT movies.


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Inkmonkey at 8:42PM, Oct. 3, 2006
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All CGI
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Rich at 8:51PM, Oct. 3, 2006
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Yeah, CGI and it's gonna kick loads of ass. Even if it sucks it will kick ass. The teenage mutant ninja turtles are THAT awesome.
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jalford at 1:10AM, Oct. 4, 2006
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Actually, the latest 4KidsTV version of TMNT was largely based on the original Mirage comics. The new “Fast Foward” spinoff though does suckass!
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