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Useless posting and posting in old threads
subcultured at 8:00AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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if this thread doesn't go back on topic, i'll lock it soon.
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Custard Trout at 8:42AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Yeah, we should probably take this internet censorship business to Debate and Discussion.

I really don't mind posting in old threads as long as it's relevant, but some people pick the most inappropriate threads. Someone posted in a thread started on the 19th of October. The problem? It was about a dead student. It's completely irrelevant now, it's exceptionally annoying because people are giving advice to the thread starter even though it's now far to late for it to be helpful at all.

Sidwarrious: What you say is true, but it's like getting a stone in your shoe. It's small, you can easily take your shoe off and shake it out, but it's still annoying.

There is also the point that you think someone has actually contributed and has added another point of discussion, but instead all you get ‘lol i liek teh piez!’ and it fucking drives me up the wall, all over the ceiling, and headlong into the floor again. My idiot tolerance insurance doesn't cover that.

Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Sidwarrious at 8:52AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Then isn't that your problem?


ATTENTION EVERYONE:
Trout's mommy has informed us her wittle girl can't handle small annoyances and because of her special needs we're all to be supperty-dupperty nice to her and make sure that of everyone on the internet and in the world that her needs are met first and foremost and that she never becomes frustrated or upset.

I know that's an asshole way of putting it but don't that sound right on about what you just said? Everyone's different. In the way it agrrivates you it doesn't bother me. What you see as a useless post I may not(Though I usually do) your religion isn't me own.

Where would you draw the line at unnacceptable? Only posts that are over a paragraph long should be posted in the forums and they have to use perfect grammer, because Trout doesn't like people to not use perfect grammer, and they have to agree with what you say and they have to be COMPLETELY on subject all the time? I know that's extreme, but everyone has something they could bitch about so why not fix it all? Why because we wouldn't be much of a community then would we? I like that when I get on I feel like I'm talking to other people. If I wanted debates I'd go to the debate section but I don't EVER post in there do I? No, because I like talking to people. I hate stupid ideas, not stupid people. The bitching I've seen in here has annoyed me more then all the “useless posts” on DD.

Now will you guys PLEASE lock this post so I can go back to being a nice guy and be the asshole no longer?! I don't like having to do this! Trout may burn me in effigy now!

None of that was personal, I was jes trying to get the point across.
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Custard Trout at 9:07AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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No, just being on topic and readable is fine by me.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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TheMidge28 at 9:53AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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If you like talking to people you might want to do that in a PQ or AIM.
Some people avoid threads where they see the same people posting over and over.
If your okay with that then that's fine but there are those on here that are not.
Lets put this in a different way…
Lets say there are a group of people hanging out.
And there is a discussion.
What if there is one person who has to comment on every one else comment.
Trying to one up the others.
I don't know about you but I find that annoying and would avoid hanging out with that person.
We all have experienced this person.
This is a very similar instance with forum posting.
Does that make any sense?
I hope it does.
Understand what the original intent of what Rutger was posting was not addressed at specific people but a trend which seems to be occuring.
If you take offense maybe you need to re-evaluate your posting habits.
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Bekefel at 10:37AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Someone
I totally know that's bekefel in the advertising discussion.

What the hell?

Don't lock this until someone explains this to me.
Please, please, you give me too little credit.
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mechanical_lullaby at 11:05AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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That's because Disney sucks.

And there it would start. Please don't people.

And even then? So you read the line “Like your avatar”. Let's say a mod doesn't delete it and it remains as long as everyone doesn't BITCH about someone posting that or draw attention to it what of it? Are you complaining that you went and read it? You lost 30 seconds.

And that's where you're wrong. I don't care that someone posts that, at all. It would just be more appropriate to take it to a pq. You obviously care alot about this subject to take it into a tangent. My god, you. For someone who complains that every post shouldn't have to be a paragraph long, you sure pack a lot of crazy examples in your argument.

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Sidwarrious at 11:39AM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I'm only like that discussing this.

But you said it Midge, it's all a matter of opinion. I'm not bothered by it. You are. So do we work everything to placate you? Do we work to placate everything everyone complains about? And then how do we define what was useless or not? And really how often do you respond to pqs? I pq people quite often and NEVER get responses and instead they'll answer me in a thread. Not one or two people, but almost every person I've ever asked or said anything to.

And even if there was someone who said something after everyone said something like I said I wouldn't care. There are real things to get pissed about and for me whether some guy online wants to get some attention for himself is rather small thing to be mad about. If this issue and how much it bothers you is oen of the top 50 stressors in your life then let's trade lives because you have it very easy.

And Trout see now you've specified what you want which is very reasonable but if we got into SPECIFICALLY what was on topic and reasonable and set alot of standards things would be different. Does “Hey Rut, I agree with that” is that really on topic when we are discussing? Not really no, but the person has expressed a though which is fully reasonable. I'm sure that line is not up for debate, but what if someone just saying something that simple annoys someone because they didn't want people to agree but to actually add to the arguement? Once again it's all a matter of who to pander to.

How was I wrong about that lullaby? That was specifically an example someone gave that pissed them off. If it was you then well, lol. But let's just say that DOES aggrivate someone then my point is valid. So here's hoping I'm right in some way.


AND STOP ATTACKING ME! My point may not be popular but give it to me that at least I'm trying to be nice to people. You guys are of the mindset “Not like us, well fuck you.”

And also I've said MANY times that I'm not trying to be a bad guy, I just want you to really think about what you guys are actually complaining about. Ok? REALLY think about it. Don't just yell at me. I'm trying to be nice here! I really am!
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TheMidge28 at 12:00PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Sid, it would be best for you to slow your roll.
My post was not intended in an attack towards you and was never out of anger.
I am not complaining but addressing an irritating trend.
This is the same for Rutger's original post.
In no way was this ever about you but the trend, but you seem to be making it about you.
As to answering pq's if one is sent to me,I do respond…to everyone.



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Sidwarrious at 12:07PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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It's not that Midge, it's you guys are attacking a group of people that you yourselves are into. Everyone does useless posts. EVERYONE. I've seen admins do it. I could go back and make a LONG post of every useless post done by the people who say they hate it.

and I never argued from the perspective of someone who does it. I argued from the perspective of someone watching and saying “Is this really something that even needs to be discussed”. People complain, people always complain about something, but this was just stupid.

All I wanted to say in short was “Hey, let's all be friends. Don't hate a guy just because he never says anything interesting, you can hate him because of his interest, political affliation, his race, his religion, his astral sign or anything else instead”.

The only way I've felt personally attacked is that I'm trying to be tolerant I keep getting it shoved in my face that I shouldn't be.
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Sidwarrious at 12:14PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I jes really like DD, and I don't want there to be a bunch of stupid new rules for forums posting cuz I think it's just strict enough as it is.

But now I'm going to buy comics, so hopefully everyone is making out and in love right now.
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mechanical_lullaby at 12:20PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Lol.. I'm not trying to attack you either.
My posts are always in playful jest.
but just for you…

Sidwarrious
The only way I've felt personally attacked is that I'm trying to be tolerant…


Sidwarrious
Don't hate a guy just because he never says anything interesting, you can hate him because of his interest, political affliation, his race, his religion, his astral sign or anything else instead".


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
*hugs Sid*
you're so up-settable XD

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Custard Trout at 1:02PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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No Sid, you seem to be confusing on topic with long. If someone wrote ‘I agree’ I would deem it pointless, it's all well and good agree with someone, but do you really need to just post that? Why not elaborate on why you agree. The same goes for disagreeing, why do you disagree? This may shock you, but people are genuinely interested in reading your reply and discussing topics with you, that's why they participate in the forums instead of reading a book or staring at the ceiling.

Following your logic, it is you being pandered to, as you are so far the only person who has objected to people complaining about pointless posting, this puts you in the minority.

We aren't ‘attacking’ you for being disagreeing or having a different opinion, but because you are causing the discussion to continue by giving us something to discuss (also because for some reason you can't comprehend the idea that annoying things annoy people). Nothing you have said so far as been pointless.

How do you not consider it annoying? These people are contributing nothing, and when the forum is particularly slow (It's annoying the rest of the time as well of course) it's frustrating to think someone has contributed something new only to find they think Mr.Mchypothetical's sarcastic remark about wheelbarrows was totally super rad.

Hell, why don't we just sod the rules all together? Ignorance is bliss after all!
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Sidwarrious at 3:16PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I love Mr. Mchypothetical! His house in the woods that you have to get to by getting in his black unmarked van that he tells you has candy in it is awesome!

Lulls, that was a joke. I was being ironic. Trying to make people laugh since this thread is so wholly depressing.

And like I've said many times, those things don't annoy me. I have other things that stress me out and I like to be my most positive on the internet. For reals, if I'm surfing through threads and I go into it and I see a bunch of pointless posts I LITERALLY think nothing of it. Nothing goes through my mind. I do not care. I could not care less. I don't even think about it. My train of thoughts is somewhere along the lines of “I wonder if someone commented me?/Have I gotten anymore views today?/I wonder if anyone has responded in *insert thread here* yet?”.

And as for the contributing nothing, sometimes there really is nothing more to say without completely reiterating what someone just said, or you really don't have anything else to add. Look at the first page of this thread before I came. Hpkomic told me to not be an ass, shaneronzio's first post and mlai's comic(though he was obviously jes trying to be a douche) all useless. Go to the Fave riddle/joke thread! I actually made a big long list of useless posts in there, which I will not post because I really don't wanna “out” anyone. Like I said, we all do it, we just bitch when others do it. I'm just a realist here.

And as for the rules thing, like I said I actually like how the mods here are active. But sometimes I feel stiffled as in RL I have to be the guy always saying something funny and interesting and entertaining or deep and so when I go online I like to relax and not have to worry “Is this post long enough or on topic enough?” I do this for fun, albeit I didn't have much fun yesterday so I got off and watched tv. Technically I fell asleep as the tv went on, but still.

Like I said, I really love this community and if it became without flaw it'd be boring. Stupid people can be entertaining too and if you just go with the flow it won't bother you. You're(speaking of everyone who agreed with the first post by Ruttlings) putting too much into it and thinking too much about it. If I got bothered by stupid people on the internet I wouldnt get on the internet because most places 9/10 people are complete blabbering idiots. The idiots here on the forums are very much a minority, at least in the forums I frequent and the idiots there are I really don't notice. Honestly. If you got me to try I honestly couldn't list a single person on DD who outright annoyed me. I guess I just don't let the little things in and snap at the big things. I'm just kinda centered. I didn't even get pissed when some guys vandalized my car with toilet paper and eggs even though I spent all morning cleaning it, but I did get upset when they stole my radio twice. Why? Because one of those thigns is really worth being upset over and one is just people being stupid and I'm glad you're smart enough to argue with me, it means you're not stupid and idiots do need to be kept in check from time to time but realy cracking down and taking out EVERY post that doesn't strictly keep things moving in a nice and orderly fashion would make me bored and the admins insane. And the admins don't need to be more insane. Look at Ozone. Look at Sub. You don't think there is already something wrong with them? Sub's a youtube junkie! He keeps spamming the “What the heck” with random ass vids. I like the vids, but obviously the guy has something loose. If he had to honestly be on track for every retarded person posting he'd really go crazy.

Sorry, I tend to be long winded. Someone will quote me on that somewhere down the line.

Basically what I'm tryign to get across is the rules are fine now, perfect. I love them as is. If I had to worry about my posts getting deleted cuz it was deemed I didn't say enough I'd leave the duck. The only reason I stay here and no other forum site is I love the community. I really do. You guys keep me coming back. I don't wanna go back to comicgenesis. They took my ice cream and threw a condom on my car!
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Inkmonkey at 3:35PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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AND STOP ATTACKING ME! My point may not be popular but give it to me that at least I'm trying to be nice to people. You guys are of the mindset “Not like us, well fuck you.”

And also I've said MANY times that I'm not trying to be a bad guy, I just want you to really think about what you guys are actually complaining about. Ok? REALLY think about it. Don't just yell at me. I'm trying to be nice here! I really am!

But you're not trying to be nice to people. You're deliberately being mean so that your point will be more memorable. Saying “I'm not being an asshole” doesn't mean that you're suddenly being nice and polite. That's along the same lines as "I'm not racist, but…“


Aaanyway, as a mod I see useless posting as annoying (in my part of the forum, at least), because I basically have to check all the posts to make sure that no one's causing trouble, picking fights, etc. It's a hassle if The Game Room is suddenly swamped with threads with new stuff posted in them, all of which are either off-topic or are simply some guy saying ”Yes.“ (or even worse, ”lol"). Another problem is that some comments are way off-topic, and I have to debate with myself whether I shoudl delete it or not. Even worse if I catch it later and the whole thread has switched from Super Mario 64 to everyone talking about their favorite horror film. Do I dump it into Media Discussion, or just hope people get back on topic.

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Sidwarrious at 3:47PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I'm the only one saying anything on my side. My posts are memorable already and I didn't start actually saying anything mean until after that and it was to illistrate a point or maybe even be sarcastic, but I never meant anything in a spiteful way.

so tired of explaining. I really want this to end. This is why I don't go to the debate thread…!!! Dump it in there! Then I won't post in it EVER! ^__^ I like that idea. I'm tired of being the bad guy. Let the guys all say “Yeah we hate people posting useless posts/lol/Iagreewithrut” and I can die in piece not pieces. It's not in me to back down so just get rid of it and let this end. I'm too stubborn to just NOT reply when someone says something.

And yes you should be annoyed. But that's your job. It's what you wanted to do. If I had to go to EVERY topic I'd be pissed too, but I only frequent about 6-7 different forums and I only go to topics that interest me anyways. Hence why you've never seen me in that recipe one, but a couple times when I got interested. Now I don't care at all. Not me cup of tea, personally. But for the average person who the post means nothing to, it's different you must agree. If I see a useless post I don't have to react to it. You do.

*cocks gun and puts it at head* Now put it in debates or lock it! My eyes are actually bloodshot from this man! I'm going CRAZY!….Or…

My favorite horror movie is American Psycho! Doesn't everyone love American Psycho! Let's talk about American Psycho!
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Custard Trout at 3:54PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Wait, you want this thread to be moved/locked because you are sick of posting in it? After you accuse us of being pandered to?

I'm not being mean here, but drop dead you hypocrite.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Sidwarrious at 4:04PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Man I was joking. And haven't I mentioned we're all hippocrits? I could swear I did. When I said we complain about useles posts and do them.

I was kidding. Lighten up. How bout we put on a happy face. Or tell me ya did since I can't see it.
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Inkmonkey at 4:13PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Are you sure he's not joking? Because a lot of people have taken your “not being mean” posts seriously, and you've seen how annoying that is.
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Sidwarrious at 4:28PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I dunno if he is. I keep trying to say I wanna be nice and post. Trout hasn't so maybe he's serious. I'd like to think he wasn't and that everything is slowly turning to sunshine and giggles. That'd be awesome.

Also I like to think I'm NOT being burned in effigy right now. But a part of me wants it. It shows they care.
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Sidwarrious at 4:32PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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And even my “mean” rant at Trout was ACTUALLY a Dr. Cox rant from Scrubs season 1. I was hoping someone'd comment that's where it was from and we'd all laugh and everyone'd buy me a laptop. I can dream though.
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Custard Trout at 4:56PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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And even my “mean” rant at Trout was ACTUALLY a Dr. Cox rant from Scrubs season 1. I was hoping someone'd comment that's where it was from and we'd all laugh and everyone'd buy me a laptop. I can dream though.

Maybe you should stop trying to be funny since you're failing so horrendously at it? Not everyone likes/has seen Scrubs you know.

In fact, acting like a moron during a serious debate is also pointless posting, how would you react if you talking about the president being shot and I said ‘I Said No was like the tyrannical ruler of Do As Your Told’?
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Sidwarrious at 5:03PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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I'd already made my point. Still already made it. And even thenI was serious, just not full-out-for-blood serious. I referenced Scrubs, but did I use the reference in an unfitting way? Or did it make my point?

I'm sorry I wasn't making you laugh, but maybe you should start laughing. At this point all that needs to be said is said and this is just pointless bickering. I'm offering the Olive Branch here. Let's be friends K?
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kyupol at 5:07PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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The way I see it, its Sidwarrious who seems to be the target of this thread because he posts too much or something.

Posts: 970
Joined: 10-1-2007
Seen: 11-20-2007

In a month, he seems to have gathered up the same number of posts I made in a longer period of time.

It is annoying to MOST people. I had similar experiences back when I had too much time on my hands (3 hour break in college wtf!!! I had all the time to debate in forums or troll or just live in the damn boards or somethin. lol) One time I joined a certain forum and I raked up 50 posts in a span of 1 day. All that chatting and yadda yadda in almost every thread.


However, I also have sympathy for people who like to post too much.

WHY do they do it?

Is it done for the sake of being annoying? (if its all about telling everyone to fuck off yes it is and such people should be banned or have posting restrictions.)

Or is it done for other reasons like beating boredom or loneliness caused by not having friends or something? (If this is the case, I think it is LEGITIMATE)

Give them a break. If it gives them happiness to post up, just let them.

And btw, I'm one of those who are willing to ACCEPT and TOLERATE people who post too much.


Just my 2 cents on this.
NOW UPDATING!!!
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Sidwarrious at 5:15PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Lol, I do have alot of posts don't I? But I don't think I've posted useless posts really. But I have done posts that are off topic and carried on off topic. I'll admit it. We're all flawed and we all go back on our word. We've all made exceptions for ourselves and our friends. But I really would like to think Rut wouldn't target me like that. Would he? Hmm, I've never had to break the legs of a European before…
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Custard Trout at 5:26PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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The quantity of posts isn't the problem, it's the quality. If you post ten times a minute without being stupid, then that is fine.

Also I have never made a useless post, ever.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Sidwarrious at 5:33PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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OK Trout. I'm not gonna argue you with you on that. I wouldn't know.
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Lord Shplane at 5:58PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Some guy is STILL necroposting in YSGISH.
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Sidwarrious at 6:05PM, Nov. 20, 2007
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Seriously? Not everyone in the world or at least DD has come and seen this? For shame!
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