I will answer you bravo, but why do I get the impression that you are looking to pick a fight and/or try to stomp on what I said as if it's burning you?
That is wonderful, but it is not a realistic perception of the definitions of belief as written in the books those with faith take as their inspiration going back to those desert prophets.
Those who are ‘inspired’ by faith as you say, are those who interpret it, and therefore feel it is ok to manipulate them. You can't be ‘inspired’ by faith. Either you have it or you don't, especially when it comes to its core, key principles. Anything else is simple hogwash hypocrisy for the masses that don't want to take the time to read. Or take the time to learn how to read critically.
It would be wonderful if it were as you say, but so many millenia of history prove you so tragically wrong, all the way to the current conflicts in the Middle East and the efforts of Christian Fundamentalists in the USA. (then there's Indonesia, The Philipines, India, Sri Lanka etc)
Again you confuse manipulators of religion who are FAITHLESS, with those of true faith. Therefore you are at this point completely off. What I describe is not the norm, and the world lacks faith in its great majority, at least in the way I defined faith a few posts above. To claim you are any religion follower and trample on its staples as garishly as it is taking place in all these examples you put, is proof of lack of faith. These people don't really believe that all they profess
to represent exists, or they wouldn't even think of acting the way they do.
That's simply how faith works.
Such idealism is dangerous in our world as it makes its adherant a dupe of those with their faith.
Exactly where do you base that? Sounds like an arbitrary statement to me.
They will use the moderates to get what they want and then ride rough shod over those who wish for that moderation that the monoploy of truth of the faithful does not allow for in any way form. Their own literature makes that clear whether written by Christian fundamentalists or Islamic extremists or extreme Patriots and Lenin. You play right into their hands and they are very grateful.
Pray demonstrate how that happens. If you have true faith, all those factions you mentioned and all the unintelligent remarks they make lump them all in the category that those of true faith actually actively work against.
The monopoly of truth …
From the number of times you reiterate this phrase I suspect you really like it. Do you have the monopoly on Truth?
does not allow for anyone to follow any other path except what is defined by the faithful. Anything else is not to be tolerated by their beliefs. There is only one path, not many. That it is real faith among the believers and it is real faith in the world we live in. Not everyone has the luxury to parse their definitions. They memorize the Koran (or what have you) accept what they are told to believe and act accordingly. There is no room for moderation or to define faith as anything but blind adherance to the decreed truth. Anything else is heresy and to be rooted out as not the true faith. You see it's the exact opposite of what you contend and that is their truth, not mine. I go with what they believe not what I wish they believed.
You need to base all that with arguments. I say the world is faithless, and far more are ‘atheists’ (in the sense that they don't truly believe that God does all they say God does and threaten people with) than those declaring so. I can prove it. Can you prove your statements as being ‘faith’ and not just brain washing by those who know how to do it?
And why are you so angry?
Please would people stop referring to Jews as a “race”. It smacks of the anti-semitism practiced by Modern Islam and Western Europeans.
Why does it sound anti-semitic?
Defining a group as a neat “other” makes persecution so easy. That is reality, not an idealism that does not exist outside of wonderful sounding rhetoric. It took so many so long to learn the lesson and millions of dead are silent witnesses to that.
“Nothing is more tragic then when a beautiful theory is set upon and destroyed by a group of ugly facts.”
The quote you mention is correct. It is not, however, support for what you keep repeating.
You grossly underestimate people who are not anti-social serial killers who recruit hapless victims to do their mayhem for them.
And I am still not sure what you are saying. Do you honestly think that it is ‘rhetoric’ that promotes persecution? If so, you still have much to learn- as persecution is an agent of oppression/ power struggle that has its roots and manifestations on far deeper things than anyone's belief system. It has to do with who has money, therefore who has power, and who can pry it from them, and so on and so forth.
And that can also be proven.