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ozoneocean at 7:00PM, March 7, 2012
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Another work filled night at home, but at least I got more sleep this time.
And now in the office again during the day to relax and do nothing.
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Isn't life strange…
 
@Niccea - thankyou! That's a nice offer. I may take you up on that :)
 
@lba - how about your Last words toothy looking ghost guy with HIPster glasses and beard? :)
 
Speaking of hipsters, I was talking to a friend that other day who I hadn't seen in a long time. He'd had a holiday over in the states to see his brother in Seattle. And he told me all about this place called Portland where all the hot girls have lots of tattoos… which he seemed to think was rather notable for some reason. Anyway, he had the impression that it was an arty, fun place.
Reminded me of that hilarious show “Portlandia” and I just had to show him. He was dumbstruck. Hahaha, too close to reality ^_^
 
lba at 9:50PM, March 7, 2012
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Portland is quite well-known for it's very liberal, health-conscious, trendy culture. For whatever reason, that portion of our country seems to attract a great deal of trendy types. The show was specifically made to mock the culture there. So far as the tattoos go, it is kind of notable in a way. I don't know if it's a uniquely American thing, but for whatever reason, in the last 5 or so years, tattoos have gained a widespread general public acceptance and are now working their way towards becoming a social norm in 20-somethings. It's something like 30% of the 25-36 age demographic has tattoos already and a further 15% have or are considering getting one.

I'm actually thinking I'd like to come up with something new for the avatar. Just not sure what yet. I might just cop out and take something I've drawn recently and crop it down.
bravo1102 at 10:28PM, March 7, 2012
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gullas wrote:
huh, in the end the top drawer might return ;)
At times like this I am so happy I studiously avoided Top Drawer when it existed.  As for greener pastures, look at the background of this page.  It doesn't get greener.  If anything they went somewhere that was less green.
Well I loaded Google Chrome so I could edit my comic pages and good grief all of a sudden everything works and works well!  IE was lagging and my wife spent half her time wondering around looking depressed that everything kept locking up or loading glacier slow.  
Decorating a set sucks.  The more I go through looking for accessories the more I realize I'll have to totally redress the set later.  Everything is stowed away somewhere and I have to look through reams of stuff to find anything.  Somehow, somewhere the flooring poster paper got wet so it's buckling.  That will make everything not sit flat.  So do I chuck the whole thing, cut it down, or just soldier through.  
ozoneocean at 11:34PM, March 7, 2012
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@Bravo. IE just does not work well at all and hasn't for many, many years, but people still stick weith it anyway. I find Chrome a bit spare myself, but it's many times better than IE.
lba wrote:
I don't know if it's a uniquely American thing…
 
 Yeah, what I meant was that tats are really so bloody common that it doesn't seem like a notable thing to me. Most places I've been it's like 70% of people have at least one, from grannies to teens. It's a 2000's fashion fad that started in the 90s and then went mainstream this century.
 
The one really notable thing is that lots of tats, especially brightly coloured, well drawn ones, usually indicate a bit of wealth.
 
I saw this pic thing on Facebook where it has this bald guy with his arms covered in tats and another pic of him all covered up in surgeon gear and it had this ridiculous text at the bottom about how you shouldn't judge a book by its cover because the person you think is a low life could actually be saving your life on the operating table or some such gumph…
…and I though, "What is this? 1983??!!!"
 
Old people, doctors, lawyers and all sorts of well to do professionals openly have tats now as “personal expression”, it's just universal. How can some tat wearers still feel persecuted?
 
skoolmunkee at 11:55PM, March 7, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
Old people, doctors, lawyers and all sorts of well to do professionals openly have tats now as “personal expression”, it's just universal. How can some tat wearers still feel persecuted?
America's a bit behind on some elements of social progressivity, depending on your region. Big news!
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bravo1102 at 12:18AM, March 8, 2012
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skoolmunkee wrote:
ozoneocean wrote:
Old people, doctors, lawyers and all sorts of well to do professionals openly have tats now as “personal expression”, it's just universal. How can some tat wearers still feel persecuted?
 America's a bit behind on some elements of social progressivity, depending on your region. Big news!
And the statistics are: one out of four Americans have a tattoo.  Upwards of 50% of them will at one point or another regret having gotten it.  One third will try to have it removed.  So the new big booming start-up business? Tattoo removal.
 
If I could swing the start-up loan I would do it.  It requires great attention to detail and the ability to work on small things.  Right up my alley.  But the start-up is over $25,000 for the school and the laser.
Macattack at 6:27AM, March 8, 2012
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I am like an internet browser snob… I use internet explorer for downloads, mozilla for facebook that I have modified, and google chrome for like everything else. The one urk I have with google chrome is that if you're saving images (like comics that make you laugh) and you do too many in one sitting it stops saving them even if it says it still is. Other than that it's a GREAT browser.
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I still wish that I had the guts to start up my business idea. There's so many talented people out there who can't get jobs because of the economy I'm so tempted to just hire as many as I can and just get them to start building whatever I can think of that they can. I mean it worked for 3M but still it's kind of a big risk to take on
ozoneocean at 7:42AM, March 8, 2012
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Macattack wrote:
I still wish that I had the guts to start up my business idea. There's so many talented people out there who can't get jobs because of the economy I'm so tempted to just hire as many as I can and just get them to start building whatever I can think of that they can. I mean it worked for 3M but still it's kind of a big risk to take on
 
Just dooo eeeet!
Currently I'm helping a friend set up a business… it's hard, but it's also fun. You just need to get started :)
 
It's much easier if you partner with someone who has expertise in one role and you handle the area you're the expert in.
 
I'm not actually partnering though, I consider myself as a “consultant”. I'm still putting in a crap-load of work and even a bit of money, but not taking any of the risk really. If it works out there'll be rewards down the track, as well as friend who is more happy and financially secure (which is the best part), but it's mostly all a favour for now.
 
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I have considered tats at various stages, but always demurred because I realised I was only interested as a monkey-see, monkey-do sort of thing: running with the pack, and I don't DO “running with the pack”. The pack can go die.
If I get one it has to be my choice only, not for fashion, not to be cool, not to fit in, not for a joke, not for a girl.
 
bravo1102 at 9:27AM, March 8, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:

I have considered tats at various stages, but always demurred because I realised I was only interested as a monkey-see, monkey-do sort of thing: running with the pack, and I don't DO “running with the pack”. The pack can go die.
If I get one it has to be my choice only, not for fashion, not to be cool, not to fit in, not for a joke, not for a girl.
First, tattoos are expensive.  I rarely had that kind of money and when I did it went to model kits, fine dining, vacations and maintenance of home and car. I despise needles.  I can't stand them at all and the thought of someone jamming one into my flesh repeatedly to put in ink freaks me out.  Last, I never really found a design I'd ever want on my body permanently.  Tee shirt, hat sure, but on my body?  
A few friends got tattoos and all the stuff they had to go through maintaining it after getting it with the bandages and alcohol and bleeding and all and you paid someone to do this to you?  I depised having IVs and that was just one pin prick. But repeated ones?  
lba at 10:30AM, March 8, 2012
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Tattoos really don't hurt much apparently. The needle is moving so fast your body doesn't really have time to register it all that well. Imagine a prickly layer of Vick's vapor rub and you've got the sensation. They're also not as expensive to maintain as most people think, IF they're applied properly and you take care of your skin properly. Taking care of it after getting it is as simple as making sure you rub lotion on it regularly to keep it from drying out until it heals. The average person's tattoo won't ever need to be retouched provided they take good care of their skin in general. It's really a matter of getting a good artist who uses the right inks more than anything else.

This is all info from the girlfriend, who does have several tattoos. I'm not going to question her authority on it seeing as how she's the one trying to get a tattoo license not me.
gullas at 5:38PM, March 8, 2012
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lba wrote:
Tattoos really don't hurt much apparently. The needle is moving so fast your body doesn't really have time to register it all that well. Imagine a prickly layer of Vick's vapor rub and you've got the sensation. They're also not as expensive to maintain as most people think, IF they're applied properly and you take care of your skin properly. Taking care of it after getting it is as simple as making sure you rub lotion on it regularly to keep it from drying out until it heals. The average person's tattoo won't ever need to be retouched provided they take good care of their skin in general. It's really a matter of getting a good artist who uses the right inks more than anything else.

This is all info from the girlfriend, who does have several tattoos. I'm not going to question her authority on it seeing as how she's the one trying to get a tattoo license not me.
 
The closer it got to the nipple, the more painfull it got and the tail is close to a bone so I felt that one quiet a bit. But the needle the arist used for the stripes was bigger and that one hurt a bit, but it was worth it…. 
I've read somewhere that females have a bigger threshold to pain than males…maybe I'm just a whiney bitch…  
Niccea at 5:45PM, March 8, 2012
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Well. I went to a job fair today. It said on the flier to expect to be there for an hour and a half to two hours. They had three stations we had to go through. I stood in line with a bunch of high school kids in the first station where they entered everyone's name and email in a computer. We were told to right down departments we are intereseted in. I had signed up for administration or front gate. I was told that they were only hiring 20 people for those postitions so I might need to look into something else.
 
Station two was a mini oriantation about the company given by two GMs and the VP.
 
Station three was the good part. I was at the end of the line for interviews because I took some time to talk to the VP. They had someone at the head of the dividing everyone up and making them wait to be interviewed. The person took one look at my application and saw I had a Bachelor's degree, and called someone that was standing to the side over. Evidently they weren't making it public that they had a Cash Control position that they were interviwing on the side. They were just waiting for someone with the college degree to walk in.
lba at 10:17PM, March 8, 2012
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gullas wrote:
 
 
The closer it got to the nipple, the more painfull it got and the tail is close to a bone so I felt that one quiet a bit. But the needle the arist used for the stripes was bigger and that one hurt a bit, but it was worth it…. 
I've read somewhere that females have a bigger threshold to pain than males…maybe I'm just a whiney bitch…  
  First question: who did it? Because that is just some kickass artwork.


Of all the artists in the world, I only envy a few their style and my number one is Hiroshige, and that remind me so much of his woodblocks. I'm a serious junkie of ukiyo-e, woodblock and the japonisme movement. It's about the only artistic movement that will stop me dead in my tracks. I can't even really exactly say why, I've just always loved the quality of relief printing and the movement and flow of those pieces. It's always been a major dissapointment to me that so many of those old prints have never been documented and shared.
bravo1102 at 11:01PM, March 8, 2012
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lba wrote:
Tattoos really don't hurt much apparently. The needle is moving so fast your body doesn't really have time to register it all that well. Imagine a prickly layer of Vick's vapor rub and you've got the sensation.
Honestly it's not so much the tattoos or the process as it is me.  I have such a phobia of needles (based on some horrible early childhood experiences) that it will never happen.

I don't even like Vicks prickly heat.

Gullas' Tiger: I painted something similar on a 90mm  female yakuza figure I did a few years back.  She was topless and the painting instructions suggested she had body art.  I dragged out some wood cut illos I had and tried to copy one in 1/16th scale.  Looking at that I might get out one of fem figures and copy that. 
Lonnehart at 1:29AM, March 9, 2012
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Heh… so very VERY tempted to spoil a lot of Mass Effect 3.  I estimate I'm halfway through the game now.  Been taking care of every single side mission I possbily can as they have an impact on the ending (or so I've been told).
 
But I won't spoil the game.  I don't want Skoolmunkee tracking me down and sniping my head apart with a Phalanx pistol…  :)
Genejoke at 2:03AM, March 9, 2012
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mass efect 3…  gonna have to wait a while sadly.  too much on and too little spare cash.
ozoneocean at 2:28AM, March 9, 2012
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@Lonne - Don't your DARE Lonne or you'll have more than Skool mad at you. I'm going to wait a few months to play ME3. I've waited a long time for it already and it's been hard, but I've just too much to do, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it. :(
 
@Gullas - Looks amazing on your boob!
 
@Niccea - Congratualations! And good luck too! ^_^
 
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Hahaha, well then, I forgot that when you do a crap load of work for someone as a favour; while you don't do it for money you do expect to have what you've done be appreciated. So That's the end of that work for a while I'm afraid. I will still help out as much as I can but I can't afford to have pro-bono stuff shunt out other previous heavy commitments. I've been waaay too lax with that so far and it's left me exhausted.
 
…So it's back to my freelance work, my own artwork, and all the pro-bono work for Drunk Duck… wee…
 
gullas at 4:27AM, March 9, 2012
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@lba, the artist is Thomas Asher. Brilliant Florida based artist that comes regularly to one tattoo shop here. 

@bravo, sounds interesting. I'd want to see that. 

@ozone, why thank you ozone. I thought that this thread lacked boobs, too bad it's only a manboob…
ozoneocean at 8:55AM, March 9, 2012
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Got two weeks worth of DD soap script done. And then sent all the lines off into the blue yonder!
You'd think it'd be easy because it's all written out already, but it's not that simple… you have to edit stuff, turn it into lines, specially number each and every single one as part of an ordered system for editing later, pick roles for people, collate each person's different lines, describe the context and type of lines for them, send individual emails to each person…
 
It takes many hours.
But the end product is worth it! ^_^
 
Product Placement at 8:58AM, March 9, 2012
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Lonnehart wrote:
But I won't spoil the game.  I don't want Skoolmunkee tracking me down and sniping my head apart with a Phalanx pistol…  :)
 
You should be more worried about me coming to hunt you down. Unlike the swift and relatively painless death of being taken out by a clean shot from a sniper, I'm sure I can find some ways to make your demise extra slow and painful.

Edit: Since this is relevent… I just recieved this picture, from the guy who's handling my Mass Effect 3 order (part of a community that does group orders, for discount reasons):
Those were my two cents.
If you have any other questions, please deposit a quarter.
This space for rent.
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ayesinback at 9:18AM, March 9, 2012
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jaybus!!

Spoiler threats, manboob, chest-beating (to which i just might add some violin accompaniment), and death threats. . .

Now THIS is what I call a moan and groan thread. Yah!!
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Macattack at 10:42AM, March 9, 2012
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even as a student who turns here far more than he should because classes warp reality causing time to slow down to the point that 1 hour feels like 3 hours…. where was I going with this??… oh ya… even as the above said I still have trouble keeping up with this forum :P 
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I'm still excited to return in the soap… it's brief but it's almost like when you see yourself in the background of a commercial! Maybe next week?? Who knows. :P
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I wouldn't really look for an acting job but if I did I think it's my secret dream to be a voice actor. I love doing voices and sound effects and it just seems so much fun!
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ps @Oz: I totally should! I'd call it Macattackproductions!… or maybe some name that wouldn't get me sued or be based off my 18 year old computer name :P Still I don't know if I'd be who's best to make such a company but it'd be worth it
Chernobog at 1:53PM, March 9, 2012
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Hope this one brightens someone's day. I came up with it the other week.
 
I went to a casino once and instead of playing cards, I sat down at the
all you can eat brisket and T-bone buffet for several hours. Eventually,
a hostess came by, disturbed, and asked if I'd like to go play some
games instead. And so I told her, "I don't like to gamble when the steaks are this high."
 
 
“You tell yourself to just
enjoy the process,” he added. “That whether you succeed or fail, win or
lose, it will be fine. You pretend to be Zen. You adopt detachment, and
ironic humor, while secretly praying for a miracle.”
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Lonnehart at 2:51PM, March 9, 2012
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Chernobog wrote:
Hope this one brightens someone's day. I came up with it the other week.
 
I went to a casino once and instead of playing cards, I sat down at the
all you can eat brisket and T-bone buffet for several hours. Eventually,
a hostess came by, disturbed, and asked if I'd like to go play some
games instead. And so I told her, "I don't like to gamble when the steaks are this high."
Heh… nice one.  I'll tell that to my sister's family next time they take me out to eat.
 
There's one thing I have to say about Mass Effect 3.  The manual?  It really IS in the game itself.  Which I find annoying.   If I hadn't found it my exploration in the game would've been more frustrating.  And I'll spoil this so no one else gets frustrated.

In reaper controlled systems you can scan for waypoints to resources (fuel, intel, stashes of credits).  But the more you scan, the more the Reapers become aware of the Normandy SR-2's presence in the area.  Once they're fully aware they'll enter the system and chase the Normandy ‘til she flees the system.  You can then risk going in and retrieving the resource by going back in and doing your best to avoid the Reaper ships, or you can do one mission and all the systems reset (the Reaper ships will be gone and you can start scanning again.
 

I hope that didn’t anger anyone.  :)
HippieVan at 4:04PM, March 10, 2012
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Gosh, I have zero tolerance for caffeine. The line for me between energized and jittery is very fine. I knew I should have gotten a small ice cap because a medium is always too much for me, but I was especially tired. Now I'm super on edge.
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Ironscarf at 5:38PM, March 10, 2012
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Hippie Van wrote:
Gosh, I have zero tolerance for caffeine. The line for me between energized and jittery is very fine. I knew I should have gotten a small ice cap because a medium is always too much for me, but I was especially tired. Now I'm super on edge.
 
I feel for you Hippie - caffeine rush is truly the worst.

I have discovered that playing the didgeridoo is exactly like riding a bicycle: once you master the circular breathing you will never lose it. You will also never sleep again without snoring loudly (that part doesn't apply to bicycles).
I think this must be why Aussie Aboriginals do that dream time thing - it's the only way you can get a decent kip without waking yourself up every five minutes.
 
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@ironscarf: I have a didgeridoo, but I've never been able to figure out the circular breathing unfortunately.
 

 
Now I'm feeling all hot and itchy like I do before my attacks. I really have not been taking care of myself lately, so it's my own fault. Cheering myself up with some Falco.
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junoblairb at 2:59PM, March 11, 2012
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On the subject of tattoos, the needle concept is vastly glorified.  Most folks think of traditional needles and tattoo needles are much less… well, terrifying looking. Fill-in needles don't even look like needles - they look like freaked out markers.  :)  Personally, it's more annoying than it is painful.  I like the Vicks vapor rub analogy - that's pretty spot on.  I want more!!  That's one thing about it - it's definitely an addiction once you start on it.

In other news, I'm HERE! Which I didn't foresee happening again for a while.  But apparently my art faucent in my brainpan got turned back on.  So I'm writing and drawing and ignoring my studies (which I'll regret quickly).  I've really missed being amongst comicking folk.  The music industry is vicious and that's saying a lot considering I grew my spine when first starting my webcomic.  That perverse level of competition rears its head like something out of a foriegn horror film - lots of lies, lots of fakeness, lots of bullshit.  Needless to say, I look forward to spending more time here where people aren't assholes and even the ones who are aren't people you want to punch in the throat.  XD
ozoneocean at 9:50PM, March 11, 2012
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All the arseholes left from here a while ago, so things should be fine here.
It's not toooo busy generally, but we keep things going. ^_^
 
I have nasty weird nerve twinges and pains in my wrists after doing some heavy moving yesterday… Hopefully that won't get in the way of my drawing! I'm currently working on TWO pages of Pinky TA at the same time and at work I'm doing a faux 1920s Art Deco poster for a musical play as a favour to my boss. It's surprisingly fun and shockingly close to the real thing… I seem to have absorbed so much 1920s that this stuff is in my blood now.
Either that or I just got lucky.
 
bravo1102 at 10:28PM, March 11, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
All the arseholes left from here a while ago, so things should be fine here.
It's not toooo busy generally, but we keep things going. ^_^
 

I'm thinking of morphing into the biggest arsehole in the world for this forum just because I can.  
I have really been feeling resentful lately because of my poor self-image.  Any tiny slight all of sudden becomes a catastrophe and the smalles omission is suddenly a deliberate smear.  Then there's the horror that I'll be eclipsed by any and all who offer the least bit more than I have.  It's like here I am having worked and strived and done my best for so long and along comes Mr. Newbie ingratiates his/her self just right and I'm yesterday's news and they get all the acclaim and I'm left doing the lion's share of the work with no acclaim.  
There are plenty of people out there who work tirelessly, endlessly and get nothing. Then there are those who think they did something and deserve recognition even though what they did wasn't all that much.

Built the main set for the comic and right now working on redressing it for its other roles.  I reviewed the list of scenes and it may not be as hard as I thought to redo the set between scenes.  But I have a feeling I'm over crowding the set with characters.

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