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Macattack at 6:27AM, May 12, 2012
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what has been seen…. can not be unseen….. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?????
gullas at 11:14AM, May 12, 2012
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Huh Oz as Justin Hawkins…. I'd seriously consider touching his privates while wearing a giant furry suit….
Ozoneocean at 12:11PM, May 12, 2012
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That would be my dream come true Gullas…

OK, still haven't psyched myself up to finish that musical thing for the DD soap, BUT I just finished recording silly traditional sounding blues song to a backing track made by Gunwallace. God I had fun!!!!!!
^_____^

zIt will be the theme for this week's Quackcast, which will be a drawing and artwork focussed one with an interview of the famous Monique MacNaughton, AKA Coydog.
http://www.graphicsmash.com/comics/unafrontiers.php
www.drunkduck.com/user/Coydog/
Product Placement at 12:29PM, May 12, 2012
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Lonnehart wrote:
Product Placement wrote:
Oz believes in a thing called love.


Does anyone have brain bleach? And a diamond tipped hand drill? I'm gonna need them…
There is no special reason why I'm qouting this post. I just wanted this picture to carry over to the next page.
Those were my two cents.
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ayesinback at 12:49PM, May 12, 2012
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hahahaha!! - adieu professor. hello pirate.
You TOO can be (multiple choice)
Product Placement at 1:17PM, May 12, 2012
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ayesinback wrote:
hahahaha!! - adieu professor. hello pirate.
Oh, you'd find that I have a quite an extensive list of various avatar pictures, that I've build up over the course of my time here.

Edit: Not to mention the collection of other user's avatars holding various “For sale” type signs (long story how that happened).
Those were my two cents.
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gullas at 4:01AM, May 13, 2012
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ayesinback wrote:
hahahaha!! - adieu professor. hello pirate.
Isn't Professor Pirate ProductPlacement?
bravo1102 at 11:06PM, May 13, 2012
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As for labels only in the military would you see a page labeled “This page intentionally left blank”
Ozoneocean at 10:10PM, May 14, 2012
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No I've seen that before on exam sheets and things… maybe instruction manuals as well. It's just to reassure people that there really IS no more info and that nothing was left out accidentally in their copy.
Pretty important in some situations :)

But why include blank pages anyway? For notes? I suspect it's just something that has to be done for printing because mechanised printing involves certain numbers of pages that have to go through the process even though you might only be printing on 68 pages for example, maybe they HAVE to print 70 because that's just how things are set up, and so on, so that's why you always have extra pages?
Just a theory.
-or not the printing process, but the binding process?

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Anyway, the Quackcast comes out today/night depending on where you are and we have EXPERT comic art advice from someone I consider a master ^_^
Also the theme music is all new and done especially for us by Gullas!
And the end theme is a Blues number strummed beautifully by Gunwallace and sung horribly with crazy lyrics by a mad person.
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Product Placement at 3:55AM, May 15, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
But why include blank pages anyway?
Oh, that's just the complimentary page that the printer gives you.

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Ozoneocean at 11:05AM, May 15, 2012
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Indeed ^_^

Well the latest Quackcast IS out now, not that there appears to be too much interest. Man this place is soo quiet, I can hear the cockroaches…
Funny too that I don't get replies from about 70% of the people I email lately. Either it's an epidemic of rudeness or I'm in some sort of internet Sargasso sea or everyone in the world is just really busy right now?

Whaaaat-ever. It's all good. Less stuff I have to respond to and deal with. In the meantime, it's past my bed time, but I've totally finished the line art for the next Pinky TA page. Yay!
lba at 11:39AM, May 15, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
No I've seen that before on exam sheets and things… maybe instruction manuals as well. It's just to reassure people that there really IS no more info and that nothing was left out accidentally in their copy.
Pretty important in some situations :)

But why include blank pages anyway? For notes? I suspect it's just something that has to be done for printing because mechanised printing involves certain numbers of pages that have to go through the process even though you might only be printing on 68 pages for example, maybe they HAVE to print 70 because that's just how things are set up, and so on, so that's why you always have extra pages?
Just a theory.
-or not the printing process, but the binding process?

That's pretty much it. Sadly, the blank pages don't exist for any cool reason like some weird tradition or anything.

For printing magazines it's because of the way in which they're bound that you have blank pages. When you do a saddle stich binding, which is what most magazines are done with, page #2 is the back of your first sheet but page #3 is the front of your last sheet, so the only sheet that has two consecutive pages is the centerfold ( Hence why old porno mags used to stick their double page pin-ups there whenever possible. ). But because the page shuffling is all weird, you either have to design to a set amount of pages, or wind up with up to 3 blank pages.

Book bindings are different though, the pages do go in consecutive order on their sheets, but printers still put in several blank sheets for a couple reasons. One is that it helps protect the actual written pages of the book. Alternately, some folks use them as a means to pad out the book a bit with thicker paper and make it more substantial on the shelf. The most practical reason though is just to organize things.

Legal documents and stuff I don't know about. I assume it's because there's penalties for not being able to account for every page of a document.
PIT_FACE at 8:51PM, May 15, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
Indeed ^_^

Well the latest Quackcast IS out now, not that there appears to be too much interest. Man this place is soo quiet, I can hear the cockroaches…
Funny too that I don't get replies from about 70% of the people I email lately. Either it's an epidemic of rudeness or I'm in some sort of internet Sargasso sea or everyone in the world is just really busy right now?

Whaaaat-ever. It's all good. Less stuff I have to respond to and deal with. In the meantime, it's past my bed time, but I've totally finished the line art for the next Pinky TA page. Yay!


actually that's something to consider. i have been wondering why i havent heard from you about the radio play for a long time. i mean a really long time. like months. unless you just decided to refuse Pit Face her fame!!
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wish guys could accept a fucking “no” sometimes. way to be ultra creepy and rag on my fucking night.

Genejoke at 10:49PM, May 15, 2012
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wish guys could accept a fucking “no” sometimes. way to be ultra creepy and rag on my fucking night.
But surely you know that “NO” really means “yes, if you pester me enough to show how much you want me” when it comes from a woman mouth. Men like that aren't creepy, they are darkly romantic and express it with a calm intensity that is deeply moving if you let them in close. What's particularly lovely is that when they do open up their hearts, it's by leaving the object of their affections blood spattered all over the walls. Who says romance is dead?
Heh, I've been watching too much Dexter.

bravo1102 at 12:11AM, May 16, 2012
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In the manuals where I saw those intentionally blank pages they were looseleaf pages in a binder. There was no reason for the blank page, just that there was a page intentionally left blank. Why?
It was because the blank page was put in for a page that once had content. Change #5 of the manual was to take out said page and put in the blank one because the process desribed had been made simpler and required less text. In order to keep the page numbering the same there was a blank page. This was so soldiers using the updated manual wouldn't see page 6 go to page 9 and wonder if they missing a page. There was the intentionally left blank 7.5
Where whole sections got removed you'd see one page numbered with a whole series of page numbers on it just to assure the soldier that a section was not missing, just removed to make his life easier. An example the start-up for the Preventive care and maintenance of an M60A3 tank originally ran to some 100 pages. Crews in practice only did about 1/5th of it. So by change 10 of the manual the Army got the message and it was reduced to 15 pages. Later printings of manual were missing the blank sheets and had the page renumbered but had sheets labeled “notes” and others specifically addressed to the Preventive Maintenance section of the Army so soldiers could send in their ideas for how to make maintenance better and smoother and easier. In other words send in your short-cuts because your time in precious and you might know what you're doing with the equipment better than the engineer types who wrote the manual. I never sent in my ideas I just passed them on to the maintenance section and they sent them on up. Kind of neat to see it show up in the PM journal some months later.

Of course this has changed and it's soldiers who write the manuals these days. Thank you SFC James Walker. I know you're not enjoying Afganistan but your facebook page is a hoot.
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Ozoneocean at 6:37AM, May 16, 2012
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@ Bravo and lba- yeah, there are lots of reasons printing is weird… It's not just the US military that has strange format and editing requirements,. Any big corporation, overnment department or university is equally a cluster-f…
Then you get into the specific weird little stupid requirements of printers who only accept files in certain outdated bloody formats with all sorts of different stipulations and requirements. ARGH!
Thank heavens that digital process printing is slowly but surely taking over from all the oldies!

I like old things, but not when it means needless bloody pointless screwing around in my day to day job! I almost never ever have to get something done on films anymore. Maybe one every two years, YAY!
But then there's clients too. There will always be the clients… -_-

@Pit- please go out with me? please?
Please? Please?
You know you wanna!
Come on.
come on.
Come on.
Please?
Come on.
Come on.
I think you're really hot!
Come on.
Go out with me?
Please? ^_^

There you go, creepers everywhere!
The DD soap stalled on a silly musical idea. I'll send out singing parts when I'm done…
OK, I'll finish it and send out the parts tomorrow. How's that?
PIT_FACE at 8:58AM, May 16, 2012
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gene-that's worthy of a valentines day card. Christmas even!
Oz-oh allright you win. pick me up at 8. wear yer fanciest hat.

lba at 11:03AM, May 16, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
@ Bravo and lba- yeah, there are lots of reasons printing is weird… It's not just the US military that has strange format and editing requirements,. Any big corporation, overnment department or university is equally a cluster-f…
Then you get into the specific weird little stupid requirements of printers who only accept files in certain outdated bloody formats with all sorts of different stipulations and requirements. ARGH!
Thank heavens that digital process printing is slowly but surely taking over from all the oldies!

I like old things, but not when it means needless bloody pointless screwing around in my day to day job! I almost never ever have to get something done on films anymore. Maybe one every two years, YAY!
But then there's clients too. There will always be the clients… -_-


Oh yes, I do so love the old file formats.

“You want me to lay this out in Quark Xpress? It's a T-shirt. We can do it in Illustrator. You do realize that no printer on Earth still uses that right? You still want it because your designer is 89 years old and only learned how to use Windows 95 two years ago? Oh…. alright. And you need all your images as .svg files? But they're currently on 4x5 film that needs to be drum scanned because your photographer is 74 and believes computers are demonic?……..”

“Ok, get the f**k out. -_-”
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Niccea at 12:26PM, May 16, 2012
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I'm in the midst of the peculiar work situation. My check for the last pay period has $600 instead of $60. I guess there was some mistake with a decimal somewhere. I've known about the mistake for a while and tried to contact payroll before the check was sent out. I haven't heard back from them yet…and I just got the check in the mail.
HippieVan at 4:51PM, May 16, 2012
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I have the best doctor. My little sister had a infection where she hit her toe and we were all sitting in the doctor's office together. My dad and I were joking that her toe would have to be amputated. (“Sorry, it's gonna have to come off.” “We can call you Little Nine-Toes!” etc) Then the doctor pulled something out and my little sister said “What's that?” My doctor told her, “It's the saw.” XD
(It turned out just to be a q-tip.)

More seriously though, I got a prescription and my dad was complaining on the way home what a pain it is putting in the insurance claim now that he's separated from my mom. And I was thinking how much I would hate it if I had to go through insurance(private insurance, no less) every time I went to the doctor or the emergency room. My poor American friends. : (
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kyupol at 10:35PM, May 16, 2012
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A little dicking around… isnt gonna hurt ^^
Ozoneocean at 1:16AM, May 17, 2012
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…Kyupol and penises… inseparable combo :)
It is pretty funny after a fashion though!
Ontario… that's where Banes is!

@lba- I've only had one instance where I had to work with SVG and it wasn't bad, so I've never had any trouble with them… plus they display in browsers without the need of plugins, so that's pretty cool!
But yeah, no one uses them.
EPS is though… I use that one all the time. I dun like it. PDFs are usually so much easier.
…except for multiple pages…

@Pitface- Fancy hat, check! Wear something sexy. We'll paint the town red.
With paint… not blood. Unless we bring Genejoke.
Ozoneocean at 4:03AM, May 17, 2012
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Oh man… BEST Indian costume EVER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZy75CpqW3Q&feature=related
bravo1102 at 8:10AM, May 17, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
Oh man… BEST Indian costume EVER.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZy75CpqW3QEvery 1970's compilation album commercial ever has that clip in it. “From K-Tel Great hits of the Dancing Disco 1970's, you'll get Cherokee Nation…”

Just finished reading a bio of Sam Houston, he spent a lot of time among the Cherokees and if the women looked like that I can see why. He's known to have done a lot of womanizing amongst them. I can understand now why lots of guys back in the day took Indian wives, if they dressed like that.
HippieVan at 11:25AM, May 17, 2012
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bravo1102 wrote:
Just finished reading a bio of Sam Houston, he spent a lot of time among the Cherokees and if the women looked like that I can see why. He's known to have done a lot of womanizing amongst them. I can understand now why lots of guys back in the day took Indian wives, if they dressed like that.
I'm not sure, but she doesn't look native to me. Also, they didn't dress like that.
(Sorry to be a downer.)
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Ozoneocean at 7:58PM, May 17, 2012
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LOL, maybe in Las Vegas?
The youtube comments seem to suggest the band is German and that in Europe they lurved the Indians and not the cowboys…
ANyway, those hats beat anything in my collection :(

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I was tenderising some nasty freezer burned steak last night, on an outside table with a tenderiser mallet. A bit fell on the ground and got covered in dirt…Maybe snails and slugs too, you never know, there are a lot about and it was dark, the nasty buggers!
I washed it off nicely and cooked and ate it anyway.
-well done of course.

None of it tasted very nice, and I got a bit of a painful wobbly tummy and a stomach ache afterwards… :(
Is there a connection with the dropped meat,just coincidence or was the freezer-burned crap not such a great prospect to begin with?
Well my big fat, fluff tomcat Simon was more than happy to gobble up the very numerous fatty offcuts, and he's pretty expert at judging meat quality so I think I can discount the last possibility… So either coincidence or washing off dropped meat is just not good enogh.
lba at 9:43PM, May 17, 2012
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Cooking it would have killed anything it might have picked up off the ground, unless your horrible death continent's bacteria is like the rest of the wildlife and has murder as it's only goal in life. I'd say it was probably the freezer burn, or your body decided it didn't like how fatty the meat was. The cat probably isn't the greatest judge of what's good to eat for a human anyway. The dirty little monsters routinely eat things that would poison any human being, like their own feces and rotting birds.

As for the .svg's, I get them constantly. A lot of my clients seem to still use inkscape or some other obscure vector software and none of them understand the value of an .eps or .pdf when it comes to editability, so I get these ridiculous .svg's with the gradient separated into hundreds of different shapes, lines that turn into millions of individual points next to each other and crap like that. It's not even necessary to send them to me that way, because they're flat images that are going on printed materials. They just do. Most of the time I just end up rebuilding the file myself and factoring in the extra time in my quote to the client.
Ozoneocean at 10:48PM, May 17, 2012
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You might be thinking of dogs there lba. Cats are famously fastidious eaters. I've never known of a cat to eat its of poop… I'm sure that happens in some crazy cases though, just like it does with humans, but probably rarer, since the wonders of civilisation give us a nice buffer against the natural selection pressures of evolution…
But with Simon particularly, we won't even eat meat from a sealed can or packet if he suspects something amiss, or the surface isn't clean enough etc.

Even kills he's made himself (rats, he only hunts for the food), some he won't consume at all, some he will but studiously avoids certain parts always.
And some steak off-cuts he won't touch either.
He's pretty reliable. :)

That SVG issue you mention- I've had that many times with EPS files… I find it's usually a version incompatibility issue. Files made with older programs etc… Things like gradients and transparency and even clipping and transparency masks and compound paths sometimes just don't translate right because of the program that created the file type, not the file type itself necessarily…
But EPS is one of the worst because it's older.
When I still had to do films this one guy needed them as Corel Draw 9 files, and there were all sorts of weird issues that'd crop up after I finally got them translated over and opening up correctly in Corel. Hated that -_-
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Hippie Van wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:
Just finished reading a bio of Sam Houston, he spent a lot of time among the Cherokees and if the women looked like that I can see why. He's known to have done a lot of womanizing amongst them. I can understand now why lots of guys back in the day took Indian wives, if they dressed like that.
I'm not sure, but she doesn't look native to me. Also, they didn't dress like that.
(Sorry to be a downer.)
Yeah, originally in Eastern tribes the women didn't wear tops in the summer so the dancer is overdressed. Cherokees are a varied mix of Native American, Black and European (often Scotch-Irish) blood so they often do not have classic “native” features and will often appear quiteEuropean.

That whole German's loving to play the Indians in “Cowboys and Indians” is like my childhood friends always wanting to be the Nazis when we played Army. Playing the bad guy is more fun.
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Did… did you just insinuate that the Indians were the bad guys?
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