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Just to add salt to the wounds....
harkovast at 2:55PM, April 20, 2012
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Mob Ties has had a guaranteed number 1 spot on DD since the site update that is not based on its current ranking and will never change.
As if this wasn't frustrating enough…Mob Ties is now on Hiatus indeffinitely at the moment.
So the number one flag ship comic for DD that is always on the top spot on the front page….is not updating anymore.
I think that says it all about the state of DD these days. 

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Genejoke at 3:10PM, April 20, 2012
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I'd been thinking the same.  With the top ten not working they would do well to pull it completely until such a time it works again.
harkovast at 3:29PM, April 20, 2012
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Okay lets be honest, its not going to start working again.
There have been no changes since the site was first revamped.
Nothing is going to change with the top 10.
They certainly wont make a change so radical as removing it. 

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PIT_FACE at 4:11PM, April 20, 2012
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it's really disheartening. have these Wowio guys  made a peep about this stuff?no stats, no top 10. way to go guys. revamp the site and leave behind possibly the TWO most impacting things beside the comics themselves.
El Cid at 4:38PM, April 20, 2012
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I say we make Harkovast the new No. 1 comic.
ayesinback at 7:43AM, April 21, 2012
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El Cid wrote:
I say we make Harkovast the new No. 1 comic.
 

have you READ it? :D
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Genejoke at 7:50AM, April 21, 2012
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Well we reviewed it in lite bites…
that said it was a positve review so maybe we didn't actually read it :)
just kidding.
ozoneocean at 8:00AM, April 21, 2012
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Skool and I can change top ten comics to be whatever we want… But being fair about that is so very, very hard. :(
 
Genejoke at 8:57AM, April 21, 2012
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could you make one based on the most likes?
PIT_FACE at 8:28PM, April 21, 2012
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id like to know that too. it'd be better than nothing.
skoolmunkee at 1:07PM, April 22, 2012
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There's been no peeps from Wowio. They're running on a skeleton crew over there, from what I understand, and mostly just hanging in there til they can do some pulic stock option thing I don't know much about.
 
Yup oz and I can change them, the mechanic we can manipulate is unique visits. So if we want a comic to be #1 we go put in a number like 50,000. We can't change the way the list works because it's static. It's just looking at whatever we put in that number box.
 
As oz said being fair is hard. He discoverd that we could change those up quite some time ago (and then I got annoyed that he changed one I thought was unfair, can't remember exactly). We've not to problem ousting ones which have gone on hiatus, I think Persona3FTW has been off a while, and Cru was off temporarily? We thought the most fair thing to replace them as would be community projects, but there's not too many of them active right now, and we also didn't want to oust legitimately updating, popular comics like Charby.
 
If you guys can give us a list of community comics which are more or less regularly updating, we'll see which ones we can safely bump off the top ten. :]
- Radio Play
- Heroes Alliance/Hero Factor/Lite Bites/?
  
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Product Placement at 3:19PM, April 22, 2012
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skoolmunkee wrote:
As oz said being fair is hard. He discoverd that we could change those up quite some time ago (and then I got annoyed that he changed one I thought was unfair, can't remember exactly).
 
Wasn't that the DD Christmas Gift comic? I remember it being put on the top 10 list to promote all the people who were contributing to it. It's still on the list, btw.
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harkovast at 4:53PM, April 22, 2012
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Can…Can I be in the top ten?
I've always wanted to be in the top ten.
I suppose El Cid suggested it, and hes always got good ideas…and murderous porn.
I don't really have a better reasons than those.
It would be nice though. 
A cat can dream can't he? A cat can dream…. 
 

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bravo1102 at 11:00PM, April 22, 2012
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If we went with the most “likes” wouldn't Death Porn be in the top ten?

I'd dump the top ten because it is an insult to lazy hacks with no readers who can't run around screaming “read whatever” because their comic is crap and frankly doesn't deserve any readership and frankly can't and will never attract any readers.  
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ozoneocean at 12:32AM, April 23, 2012
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bravo1102 wrote:
I'd dump the top ten because it is an insult to lazy hacks with no readers who can't run around screaming “read whatever” because their comic is crap and frankly doesn't deserve any readership and frankly can't and will never attract any readers.  
Hahaha, there's that self depreciation humour again ^_^
 
NickyP at 12:47AM, April 23, 2012
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Put my badly-pencil-drawn stick figure comic as #1, just for a week.
 
I just want to see the reaction of the more technical/talented/“top tier” DD members. It's the perfect way to troll people on this site. And then after the torches and pitch forks come after us, put back whatever was there and run like hell.
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bravo1102 at 2:00AM, April 23, 2012
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ozoneocean wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:
I'd dump the top ten because it is an insult to lazy hacks with no readers who can't run around screaming “read whatever” because their comic is crap and frankly doesn't deserve any readership and frankly can't and will never attract any readers.   Hahaha, there's that self depreciation humour again ^_^
And does that self-deprecation make the statement any less accurate?  At what point does it stop being self-deprecation and start being honesty?

Just the heck of it let's have the bottom ten of still updating comics by persons who participlate on the boards. 
Genejoke at 8:39AM, April 23, 2012
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Bravo, you comics may be crap but they are so crap they are good!  I enjoy them regardless.  One of these days you'll surprise me and do a serious drama photo comic, if anyone can pull it off it's you.
El Cid at 9:58AM, April 23, 2012
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I think having the Top 10 from a year ago up there made sense as a brief interim solution while things were being hammered out, but at this point it's hard to find good justification for keeping them up there.
 
I think this was suggested once before, but I'll re-suggest it: Those spots would be put to better use spotlighting community projects, stuff like the radio play and drunk duck awards. That might help draw some attention and potentially some more participation.
Product Placement at 5:48PM, April 23, 2012
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El Cid wrote:
I think this was suggested once before, but I'll re-suggest it: Those spots would be put to better use spotlighting community projects, stuff like the radio play and drunk duck awards. That might help draw some attention and potentially some more participation.
 
I'll give this suggestion a thumbs up.

But the best long term solution would of course be to fix the damn tracker that used to monitor the top 10 list.
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skoolmunkee at 10:45AM, April 24, 2012
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El Cid wrote:
 
I think this was suggested once before, but I'll re-suggest it: Those spots would be put to better use spotlighting community projects, stuff like the radio play and drunk duck awards. That might help draw some attention and potentially some more participation.
If “by suggested once before” you mean that we have done that with a couple of them, and I just said it in this thread and asked for some currently updating community comics, yes :]
 
I forgot to mention in my earlier post, but we didn't want to go by most likes because that's basically what the Browse Comics page defaults to. Plus we'd have to check that periodically to reflect the most current top ten, maybe? Not sure how static that top 10 is.
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usedbooks at 11:07AM, April 24, 2012
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I agree with showcasing active and buzzing community projects – in place of the inactive top tens. Definitely shouldn't remove the active top ten comics that deserve those spots, even if the statistics are static.
Genejoke at 1:12PM, April 24, 2012
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As I mentioned in the other thread, Lite bites is still updating daily.  hint hint. and pay it forward is still ticking along.
Hawk at 3:33PM, April 24, 2012
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I was just noticing this a while ago, too.  So I went through the top ten:
Mob Ties: Hiatus
Cru the Dwarf: Hasn't updated in ten months
P4 the Win: Ended
Geminni: Ended

skoolmunkee wrote:
El Cid wrote:
 
I think this was suggested once before, but I'll re-suggest it: Those spots would be put to better use spotlighting community projects, stuff like the radio play and drunk duck awards. That might help draw some attention and potentially some more participation.
 If “by suggested once before” you mean that we have done that with a couple of them, and I just said it in this thread and asked for some currently updating community comics, yes :]
 
I forgot to mention in my earlier post, but we didn't want to go by most likes because that's basically what the Browse Comics page defaults to. Plus we'd have to check that periodically to reflect the most current top ten, maybe? Not sure how static that top 10 is. 
Yeah, I think “Likes” would be a bad idea, too.  That system is fairly easy to manipulate, and since you can't un-Like a comic, it's just as irreversible as the current Top Ten…  “Like” numbers don't go down when people stop reading.
 
You're right, I think community projects is the only fair way to do it… though I suppose there needs to be ten actual community projects.
ayesinback at 8:26PM, April 24, 2012
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The radio play comic will be updating daily for about 3 weeks and several (most?) of the artists have had their comic/s featured. So, there's some great stuff, but there's an end date in sight.

Meanwhile, Duck and Quail and Lite Bites have been going strong for awhile.
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bravo1102 at 12:26AM, April 25, 2012
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So we're agreed that the Top Ten is extraneous.  Could just as well set up a Paypal account and have people pay for the priviledge of being there and use it to fund a series of Pinky TA action figures or paying Wowio to finish work on the site or producing the While You were Away: Drunk Duck Soap the Motion Picture or even just buying lots of hats.
Anubis at 12:53AM, April 25, 2012
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Yeah I have sorta stopped going though the main page, and have a link set right to my contro panel.    the important news comes though twitter, so I can check that at whim,  and well thats the only thing that changes on the main page.    
I hope they get some funds soon,  or something, cos DD is a good community, and it is sad to see it stripped down to a skelerton crew of updating comics and forum posters
skoolmunkee at 11:56PM, April 25, 2012
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OK guys, thanks :] I'll spend some time on this later today.
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Anubis at 5:16AM, April 26, 2012
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How bout instaid of trying to work out top tens   just put random 10 regular updating comics up   
MrHades at 10:10AM, April 26, 2012
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Man, I flagged this up in February!
http://www.drunkduck.com/forum/topic/175018/
and yes, I DO want a medal! ;)
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