Kroatz wrote:I was actually just kidding with my opening paragraph and wasn't offended at all. I should have made that clearer but always forget how difficult it is to interpret these things online. I also admit to not drafting a 28 page reply and editing it down!
@ Ironscarf:
After re-reading what I wrote, I can see how it may
look like I tried to exclude you from the wonderful thinkers category.
Please know that that was not what I was trying to do. The: Im just
gonna respond to Ironscarf' line, was only meant to announce that yours
was the only post I was going to answer. Just has some subtle meanings
that the closest Dutch translation does not have.
Any
implication that you are in any way lesser, or your opinions are in any
way less valuable, were not meant at all and most likely stem from a
combination of tiredness and a slight language barrier. I am sorry I
offended you, and I understand my mistake. I will make sure I pick my
words more carefully next time, because the last thing I want to do is
insult or alienate any of you.
In response to your actual post: I
realize that alcohol is a very big part of a lot of people's lives. I
come from the Netherlands, there's stuff available to most of us that
would cause lengthy prison sentences even a few kilometers across the
border. In the Netherlands we recently raised the legal drinking age a
few years, and there were protests. We value our freedom of
mind-alteration.
But even though I have extremely easy access
to drink, pot, shrooms, or even some of the harder stuff, I choose not
to partake. If I am happy, I don't need any of it to remain happy, and
if I'm sad, I won't be helped by any of it either. And I do not think
that alcohol- or drug-abuse is in any way caused by the products
themselves. Too much of anything is wrong, and usually the fault of the
consumer.
But to me, and this is a personal opinion, any amount
of mind-altering, mind-numbing, mind-expanding, or mind-improving
substances has the potential to be too much. If I meet you after a few
drinks, and you behave completely different from sober-scarf, then you
are not the same person. If it would not alter you much, then what's
really the point? And this is completely seperate from the effects it
has on your own life. Anything enjoyed under the influence has less
value, it would be more beautiful if you had been sober, because you
would have seen it, felt it, and been able to think about as it really
is, instead of the blurred, softened image that alcohol sends to your
brain.
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@Lonnehart:
If
everyone in the world, in the universe, would be forced to worship
Flubbert the powerful, or die, then I personally do not believe that
that would be true worship. At the very least it would call into
question if independent thought, and free will, actually exist.
But
are a lot of religions not doing the same, or even worse things right
now? Worship Sponk, the smelly, or you will burn forever in his rancid
sex dungeon. If a religion can force you to believe in their particular
afterlife, and then tell you that you can only reach it if you do what
they say, that's as bad as a microchip to the brain.
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@Bravo:
Dollar - Daalder. Which was an old form of Dutch currency.
Yankee - Jan Kees. A typical old Dutch name. (Two, really)
Cookie - Koekje. Which means biscuit.
Wall Street - Wal straat. Means wall street, but was Dutch first.
Boss - Baas. Means the same, Dutch first.
Brooklyn - Breukelen. A name most likely meaning forest town.
Coney Island - Konijn eiland. Rabbit Island.
Decoy - De kooi. Meaning the cage.
Luck - Geluk. Means almost the same, but geluk has happiness attached to it.
I
looked it up, and around 1% of all english words have their origin in
Dutch. Which is probably much lower than the amount of English words in
Dutch.
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@Vladimirmasters:
Drink as much as you feel comfortable with. I am not someone you should be taking much advice from.
(Except if I recommend books, I have good taste in books.)
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@Cutecollegestudent:
1984
is the most depressingly uplifting book I know, and I read it about
once every two years. Even in the free world, we're halfway there.
We're being monitored, told lies, cut up into a ruling class and a
working class, and being slowly forced into a few big regions that are
constantly at war with each other. In a way, our reality is a bit worse,
because our subjugation is mostly voluntary. One horrible tragedy every
once in a while, and the ruling class can push any new laws they want.
Even a real Newspeak is slowly being fleshed out, starting with rofl omg
lol, and ending with no concept of freedom.
It's cool that you
have a personal link to the subject matter, and living in a communist
country for a while should, if not pleasant, at least be interesting.
And no, the original idea behind communism will never work. Just like
the pure forms of democracy and capitalism will never work. It's human
nature that gets in the way of human hope. All animals are equal, but
some are more equal than others. We'll always want more than everyone
else, which is the reason why we're at the top of the food chain, and
also the reason why we'll not remain there forever.
On chairs: That's not a chair! This is a chair! *Throw chair, storm out.*
On
Nietzsche: The bermensch thing is actually misunderstood by most. Most
of the negative connotations are because Hitler, who was on friendly
terms with Nietzsche's sister, adopted the term but not the meaning. I
guess I haven't really delved into the subject enough, but I understand
bermensch as a man or woman that makes the most of their life, mostly
in the realm of intellect and philosophy.
And finally, everyone
in a group should be on the same level of intoxication. My preferred
level is just a lot lower than the one that others appear to prefer.
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Hippievan:
The
French language, even though I have never spent a happy moment in its
vicinity, is something that I wish I was better at. The lessons I had in
high school were forced, and I did not feel the need and importance
back then. That is why hearing that your dad is learning French, at a
later age than, is very inspiring. I truly hope I still have the will
to learn when I get to my late 40's, early 50's. (Which is the age I
would guess your father to be. Mine have reached that milestone, and are
dreading the next.)
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@Ayes:
I
hope you have a wonderful holiday, that feels longer than they usually
do. And that you make at least three new memories. (Quality over
Quantity)
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@Ozone:
Any
help you can offer is welcome. And I think it's extremely cool that
you're writing with others. My last writing partner had to go back to
India, and we haven't done much since then. I guess I should give up
hope that that story ever finishes.
We'll have to agree to differ on this one. I can't view a reasonable amount of alcohol as dulling the senses. It may dull one or two, but others are heightened as a result! Some people are having a wonderful time all the time without the aid of stimulants and I envy them their brain chemistry. Others require constant medication just to remain on an even keel. If a little of one can help you to join in with the other then all the better!
Of course, non drinkers should not be pressured to join in with the drinking and no serious drinker would attempt such a thing. Someone has to do the driving after all. They are worth their weight in gold.
I must say, your handling of English is far better than most of the natives!