SS4 152 Janey and Claire flashback.
skyangel on Nov. 10, 2012
I've been trying on and off all day to load this for you, and just kept getting the 502 gateway error!
Thankyou so much for all the feedback too! I haven't read any of last weeks comments yet and I just noticed there are 3 pages of them!! You guys are just awesome. I really need to go to bed now but I'll read and reply to as much of your thoughts etc. as I can on Sunday.
Now what could Janey possibly do with Claire that Sarah wouldn't? lol Find out next week ;)
xx
skyangel at 3:40PM, Nov. 11, 2012
Amber: Nicely crushed there between the heavyweights! ;) Yes at the end of the day it's not going to be about whose to blame but can Sarah get over it and continue with the relationship isn't it. If she feels responsible or forgiving enough she might give Janey another go, but if she feels as strongly as you do we're already past excuses.
skyangel at 3:31PM, Nov. 11, 2012
Bear: Very good point I think. Claire and Janey have always been very close and if Claire had any temptation to experiment I think Janey would be a natural choice. Apart from that though I personally have mellowed in my sexual attitude with age. Stuff that seemed gross to me once has slolwy evolved into, what's really so bad or different to stuff I do anyway, so I was kind of seeing Claire as pushing those limits a bit out of a mix of both curiousity and revenge.
skyangel at 3:27PM, Nov. 11, 2012
Tommym and Liz: It is wonderful to swap from one side to the other and look for both the best defence and attack of each character. In real life I've always been pretty good at squirming out of tough spots with a few carefully thought out lines, but of course some acts are defenceless so I've just given Janey my best shot and then jumped into Sarah to see if I could buy it or not and trying to imagine sarah fighting with both logic and anger as well as perhaps some guilt.
skyangel at 3:21PM, Nov. 11, 2012
Liz: last panel..;)
skyangel at 3:20PM, Nov. 11, 2012
DV: I never anticipated Janey dying from mixing her meds but as LV points out I think the correct phrase might be, 'shouldn't operate heavy machinery'! lol Either way she was depressed and feeling reckless but I'm not taking her side.
arici at 11:22AM, Nov. 11, 2012
OMG I hadn't even thought about the health thing. Since they prolly didn't use any protection this is making everything so much more irresponsible! Let's keep the thought of a mixed sex threesome a little low, shall we? Sorta gives me goosebumps. And not the pleasure kind ;-)
oldironside at 10:34AM, Nov. 11, 2012
I'm sorry, but the idea of Janey with a real flesh and blood phallus attached to some sweaty,hairy geezer just doesn't ring true, even if she is being adventurous. I think her reaction would be somewhat akin to the way the crew of the Nostromo reacted when the Alien came out of John Hurt's stomach.
dragonrider at 9:59AM, Nov. 11, 2012
@oldironside thanx for breaking that one out, been waiting for the gleesome threesome monster to wag his teenie weenie, now waiting for the other shoe to drop, Janey thinks she's preggers from it. Now one or two other thoughts occur here and Claire would not mind them a bit, believe you folk cross the pond call it "dogging" or public sex with the hope you are seen another might be picking up a stranger and getting very, very friendly. Now then a bit of a comment here Claire really has a problem keeping her knickers on wouldn't be surprised if the folks at public health weren't on a first name basis with her from her many visits so I suggest Sare goes immediately and get tested for STD's. @Tommyn Uhhhh all its diversified glory? Hmmm don't think I'm up to whipping myself into a frenzy just to have an orgasm think I'll stick with a bit more vanilla cream in the mix if you please.
GreenGlowingGoo at 7:30AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Wow... all the way back to page 101. All of those pages after are tainted for me. Now I'm really sad.
tommym at 7:09AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Dear Sky,@ LV Glad we agree on what Sarah is going through. Think BearinOz has point. If one is to try out same sex, who better to do it with than someone you already know and have feelings for. In the heat of passion it would not be the first time some one said something they didn't really mean in order to have sex. And yes between two people who are ready, willing and able it is quite possible for them to start jumping into kinky stuff. As to what exactly, I highly recommend going to Wikipedia and typing in BDSM. It's The Wonderful World of Sex in all its Diverified Glory! tommym
arici at 7:09AM, Nov. 11, 2012
First of all: compliments to sky and Emi, fantastic art and story. I really like the flashback! Just a small comment on the story itself: I don't think it's going to do Sarah any good to know precisely what j and c did. It's like that scene in 'Closer' where the guy wants to know exactly what his wife and her lover did... but strongly dislikes the answer... we shall see
comic_didi at 6:57AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Good thing I didn't skip over the rest of the comments. I would not have thought of the blackmail thing. Or more to the point, I never figured that doing something to prevent a bad result you predicted could be termed mental blackmail... So there we are, Janey fell into one of the common crap that cheaters do. Continue so their lover doesn't spill the beans. And gosh, see how nice that turned out? Well, no one ever said they had the best logic. Next week is gonna be intriguing. Will this talk be good for them? Or just infuriate Sarah so much more? It could go either way.
Lunaris Victoria at 5:53AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Going to clarify on DV's behalf that blackmail doesn't have to be coerced from someone else. We're all capable of mentally blackmailing ourselves. Ever do something because you thought if you didn't that things would turn out worse? Same thing. :/ Whether or not it's the case, I won't presume...but I can see what DV is saying. And no, Janey isn't making excuses. She -did- just cop to enjoying herself. ~Liz
DarkVisor at 4:49AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Big props to Sky for this arc, this is a hugely controversial subject (just have to read the comments for the last page to see that :P) but you seem to be handling it, umm, 'nicely'
DarkVisor at 4:48AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Little Swan: that's just it, so far she hasn't made _any_ excuses, just giving the reasons she did what she did. That's usually how people get caught up in crap like that: they slip up once and then get blackmailed into doing it again (or worse), and yes, in Janey's mind she was being blackmailed (just read panle 5 again), even if Claire didn't actually say so
oldironside at 3:26AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Can I be the only one horrified by the thought of Janey in a threesome with a bloke? There's something unnatural about that.
Little Swan at 2:40AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Great art and storytelling Sarah! Not going to say what I think of Janey and her "excuses" though..
Fruitbat_44 at 2:23AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Well at least Janey hasn't fallen back on, "But I was thinking of you the whole time!" *Maybe* monogamy is not the ideal state people think it is, but Janey had to know that cheating on Sarah would hurt her. And given how Janey reacted when she thought Sarah was tempted with Gerry . . . But on the smutty side; the girls have come a long way since Part Three Page Six so, apart from the possibility of getting a guy in for a threeway, just what was Claire more adventurous about?
oldironside at 1:46AM, Nov. 11, 2012
@LV: I'm not saying it's all J's fault either, but I'm trying to give Claire some of the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it was an epiphany for her. She and J were always close, so just maybe they are better suited to each other than J and S. We shall see.
Lunaris Victoria at 1:25AM, Nov. 11, 2012
@ironside As always, I'm not absolving Janey of guilt. Just so many people harp on her guilt as it is, I feel the need to play Devil's Advocate a bit. XD
oldironside at 12:49AM, Nov. 11, 2012
@LV: Well, that's what she implied. I'm very much of the opinion that it takes two to tango. Just because Janey looks like an angel doesn't mean she isn't capable of being selfish and manipulative.
Lunaris Victoria at 12:13AM, Nov. 11, 2012
@ironside To be fair, Janey never said her medication made her do it...just that she knows it was stupid to drink while medicated. :) As for Claire...meh, she's been a thorn in the side of my happy couple, I'll admit a bias. >.>
oldironside at 12:07AM, Nov. 11, 2012
Oh, man that was hard work. I lost count of the number of times I tried to log on yesterday. Still, great update. I can't help thinking Claire is being treated badly. No one seems to want to assign any motivation to her other than that she's a total bitch. It must be vaguely possible that Janey has the same effect on her that she has on the rest of us? And as for Janey's defence of "my medication made me do it", she's just using that as an all purpose allibi to do whatever she wants. "Now what could Janey possibly do with Claire that Sarah wouldn't?" I have a list of deviancies in my head which good taste prevents me from posting on a Sunday morning. Next week should be fun, though.
DarkVisor at 9:25PM, Nov. 10, 2012
Oh and Sky, regarding your last question ("Now what could Janey possibly do with Claire that Sarah wouldn't?"), quite a lot actually ('anal' comes to mind first). One thing Janey needs tolearn regarding blackmail: it only works if you let the blackmailer get away with it, come clean as soon as you can, you are going to get it in the neck anyway but it's always _better_ if it is you who 'spills the beans' (secrets do far more damage than the truth, for a start you can't begin to repair potential damage if it's hidden under the rug)
DarkVisor at 9:20PM, Nov. 10, 2012
Most readers, even Janey supporters, agree that what would be, best in the long term, would be for them to seperate for the short-term while they sort themselves out (_both_ of them need to grow)