Chapter 3 page 23
j giar on Feb. 4, 2009
(EDITORS NOTE: That'd be me. If your getting this page as the updated page be sure to click back to page 22. An error in storytelling, damn artists, has caused a glitch in the story. That has been rectified. SO for your viewing pleasure read page 22 and then this page. All will be right with the world, I will solve world hunger and bring piece to waring countries. Okay maybe not all that but….Jim Editor/artist and guy that messed up the page.)
So as much as I like this page..I'm left with a somewhat uncertain feeling. So I'll put this up and see what kind of feed back I get. We finally meet Koike ( who was mentioned way back in the park shoot out) who is the head of The Elite. Which explains all the tat wearin' mofo's we've seen through the story. And it also tells us a little more about Frank and who or what he is. A few more pages and we'll wrap up Chapter 3 and head into Chapter 4.
Since last week and the snow…We were told on the forcast that between Tues and Weds we'd receive 1-3 inches of new snow. Tuesday night as I sat in the studio inking this page, my wife came down and asked, “Have you looked outside?” I hadn't…“It's pouring snow!” I figured it'd be gone by morning…It wasn't. By the end of the day Weds. we had a total accumulation of 11 INCHES OF SNOW!!! Ugh…I….hate….snow….I…hate…Ohio.
So see everyone next week…put on your mucklucks. Stay warm. Brrrrr. Jim
Senretsu at 6:55AM, May 13, 2009
We'll be waiting on your next update, Jim! Personally I always liked the art. It's all very sin city ish. (Which I'm sure is a typecast you, by now, despise. Unless "sin city" is what you were going for) But hey, I'm not about to tell an Author how to run his comic. Gambatte Kudasai mang!
j giar at 12:56PM, Feb. 9, 2009
Sysli-Yep on all accounts. Except for the dignity thing. =) Trev- Thanks for the 5, brother.
Sysli at 8:27AM, Feb. 6, 2009
Aww, I managed to sum up things! And spell things wrong in the process. Still, I'm all kinds of honoured because my misspelled crazyness was deemed good enough to summon up things. My fanatic attention to details finally did some good. I feel all proud. Id better stop now before I ruin the dignity I have left. ... (Eeee, I got things right, eee!)
j giar at 7:20PM, Feb. 5, 2009
Armando- Thanks for visitin' and glad you dig the inks. Midge- As always thanks for the support..and yeah I love stand offs. Corey and Chip- Thanks...I've thought it over and next week I think I'll post a page to clear this whole problem up. Thanks a huge frickin' pile guys. You all rock.
cs3ink at 6:56PM, Feb. 5, 2009
By the way, your hands kick SERIOUS ass!
n_y_japlander at 5:59PM, Feb. 5, 2009
I see it all now.... At first I thought Assy was holding the staff/rod/shaft, but he is actually touching the chair, as to bend over to talk to Koike... Koike has the staff, he does a Jackie Chan move, because the gun is far out of reach. so he flips the stool into the table sending the gun twisting an turning into the air.... now I see it clearly... and like it even better than before!
TheMidge28 at 5:19PM, Feb. 5, 2009
superb layout and love the visceral tension in that last panel.
armandoB at 4:26PM, Feb. 5, 2009
nice inks
j giar at 12:52PM, Feb. 5, 2009
OOoops, sorry. Hit "say it" before I was done. This was the intention of this page.. "As far as I get it, Koike notic is sitting in his chair of awesome, then Asswipe (let's call him Assy) offends him and he aquires a gun due to his magical powers of badass. I don't think Assy is the one holding the staff since we can clearly see that Assy has a ring, and said ring ought to be visible if he was holding the staff, but it's not. Thus somebody else is holding that staff. Assy isn't attacking anybody, he's just doing something really really stupid by mentioning Franks name. Big nono that leads to tie-clenching and gun pointing action. Nice. I actually think Koike may be holding the staff. Or rather, I know he is, because we say it in page 20 panel 3." And thanks again Sysli. Jim
j giar at 12:48PM, Feb. 5, 2009
I'll just address everyone all at once...It'll be easier and take me less time to type. So yes, what I feared had happened...did. It wasn't until this morning as I went over the scans that I realized I had lost my intention of the action, or rather what I was leading up to. Which if any of you out there are like me and others and always learning, this is a perfect example of how important clarity is for this medium. And if people like Chip and Slide are unsure then I've dropped the proverbial ball on presentation. It's nothing major..in fact I'll take Slides suggestion and pull back on that first panel to fix everything. Huge..HUGE points to Sysli for not only catching everything..but also putting the pieces of the puzzle together thus far. If you remember at the beginning I said nothing is what it seems. Every character..even those that may bite it, are important...So for those that are checking in I'll edit Sysli's post and give you the low down thus far... Thanks again folks for all the input..You make my job easier by speaking your mind and giving me your honest opinions and comments. Thus far..."Hey, it was page 16 Koike was mentioned... Something about not being pleased that his Elite had been used to redecorate the ground by the 42. Back in ye olden days before I came and left comments the size of small towers. Heeeeye, wait... Doc said, more or less, that he'd take care of the problem with the Elite after "his" 42 had killed them. Now we have Assy mentioning Frank as if he killed the other Elites, but he wasn't even there. Somebody have told a quite different version of the park incident than we saw, presumably somebody who wants Frank eliminated, and this somebody isn't above lying. I'd say it could be Doc, but lying like that seems a bit unlike him to me." Thanks Sysli..=)
Sysli at 10:58AM, Feb. 5, 2009
Okay... Our Hero Frank must have some very very badass abilities if he's not only a surviving traitor, but also has a more or less unspeakable name. I sense a kind or grudging respect. As for the action... I'm afraid I'm a bit confused too, but I utterly fail at understanding fights in any form and medium. As far as I get it, Koike notic is sitting in his chair of awesome, then Asswipe (let's call him Assy) offends him and he aquires a gun due to his magical powers of badass. I don't think Assy is the one holding the staff since we can clearly see that Assy has a ring, and said ring ought to be visible if he was holding the staff, but it's not. Thus somebody else is holding that staff. Assy isn't attacking anybody, he's just doing something really really stupid by mentioning Franks name. Big nono that leads to tie-clenching and gun pointing action. Nice. I actually think Koike may be holding the staff. Or rather, I know he is, because we say it in page 20 panel 3. See, it's all in the details. Lovely lovely details. I think the problem is that it's been a few weeks, so even I forget the small details along the way. If the break between pages hadn't been there I'm sure it wouldn't be as confusing. Hey, it was page 16 Koike was mentioned... Something about not being pleased that his Elite had been used to redecorate the ground by the 42. Back in ye olden days before I came and left comments the size of small towers. Heeeeye, wait... Doc said, more or less, that he'd take care of the problem with the Elite after "his" 42 had killed them. Now we have Assy mentioning Frank as if he killed the other Elites, but he wasn't even there. Somebody have told a quite different version of the park incident than we saw, presumably somebody who wants Frank eliminated, and this somebody isn't above lying. I'd say it could be Doc, but lying like that seems a bit unlike him to me. Hm. Hm hm hm. I think I'm beginning to find the peices of this puzzle, but I can't quite get them to fit yet. Oh, and a small artistic thought. in panel 5 (the first of the mini-panels) we can see a knife in the backgrond. I'm wondering if that's an unneeded detail? The focus is on the gun and its placement, but I can't help wondering if the knife is going to be important. If it isn't, then it may be better if it had been left out? I'm not sure, and it is just a minor detail, all in all it looks great as always Jim. Looking forward to next thursday already. And don't let the snow get you down Jim, you can beat its ass! Because everybody knows snow's all wimpy, it has to travel in gangs to do any harm. I'd better stop now, this comment is growing a bit huge, even for my standards. See yoy next week!
SlideStudios at 9:11AM, Feb. 5, 2009
Finally caught up on the story, so now I know what is going on. I think panel 1 should have been pulled back some. It almost looks like the Koike is reaching behind his own back and pulling a sword, at first glance anyways. I went back and looked at page 20 and see that you have the white silhouette of asswipe in the door way, but that is pretty hard to notice. and I see that Koike has a cane on page 20, so that is him swinging his own cane. But I didn't notice the cane on pg 20 the first time. But the art is freaking awesome and now that i've read the story, i am really interested in whats going on. talking cats rule.
cs3ink at 8:47AM, Feb. 5, 2009
I think the page kicks ass... except I'm not quite sure about 3-7. Oh, wait... Asswipe is the one swinging the cane? How does the stool overturn? And how does Koike (gee, where have I heard that name before...?) get the gun? If "asswipe" is swinging the bow at Koike, why is he swinging it *away* from his master? Okay. I'm sorry, it's a VERY well-drawn page, but I'm confused by the storytelling. Sorry.
j giar at 7:25AM, Feb. 5, 2009
Corey- Glad you like the page...but from your response I can see there's an issue with the last three pages. I'll explain after a few more comments. Thanks again for your's. Jim
n_y_japlander at 7:11AM, Feb. 5, 2009
I Like this page!!! Why would "ass wipe" attack someone he calls Master?????? (not expecting an answer, just wanted to comment on your excellent story telling abilities... as in real life, people do stupid shit when they fear the unknown) I do miss the snow, but I do not envy you! I have been there with the heavy snow, frozen pipes, and ice storms... that I do not miss, just the light stuff!