Jason Moon at 1:12PM, Jan. 14, 2021

COBRA KAI!! Love this show. I even have a mohawk ;)

usedbooks at 8:01AM, Jan. 14, 2021

Lol. It's somewhat a side-plot. He's killing off his remaining brothers while they look for this gem. He doesn't even know where it is. And the protagonists don't know what it is. It's 100% dramatic irony. (Can't believe you don't remember Septimus. XD He has a swordfight with Tristan in the climax -- while his ghost watches.)

Banes at 7:35AM, Jan. 14, 2021

Aha! I remember the movie somewhat, but I have no recollection of Septimus. sounds like a well-mannered Antagonist if he keeps his goals away from the Protagonist like that!

usedbooks at 6:02AM, Jan. 14, 2021

Stardust is my favorite movie and does this very well. Antagonist Septimus wants the gem that will make him king. The villain witches want to kill the heroine to extend their lives. Septimus is super evil and kills tons of people on his quest. If he got the gem, however, he would stop. But the protagonists don't know about him or his goals whatsoever. (So he is quite villainous, but technically his goals are not in conflict with the protagonist goals...)