Banes at 10:25AM, Feb. 20, 2021

@ozoneocean - I'm always glad to see unity happening among people! And you and hushicho have found unity in your complete wrongness on this subject! IronHorseComics and I will be fighting you at the airport! ;D

Banes at 9:50AM, Feb. 20, 2021

@IronhorseComics - I've never read the comic. The movies are probably wise to take the bones or essence of those stories and change things up as they need.

Banes at 9:49AM, Feb. 20, 2021

@hushicho - Well obviously I don't agree at all - but I don't think we agree on much. S'all good! i won't go to war over it. But if I did, we'd keep it Civil!

Banes at 9:48AM, Feb. 20, 2021

@KAM - I can accept that. For me, the hero vs. hero stuff has been some of the most effective in the Marvel series. I think it's because I find the heroes of those movies the most well-realized characters. It's nice to see them go up against each other.

Ozoneocean at 9:37AM, Feb. 20, 2021

I felt the movie was really weird... It changed the characters in ways that didn't fit and was basically a weird holiday in the progression of the story towards Infinity War. It would have been ok if the civil war was the big end of the progression instead of Infinity war but it's not, it's just a diversion- which is a huge disservice.

IronHorseComics at 7:05PM, Feb. 18, 2021

The original comic this movie is based on was horrible and it only gets worse with age. The movie however was freaking outstanding.

hushicho at 3:17PM, Feb. 18, 2021

It was a horrible debacle, both in the comics and, even more, on screen. It ruined characters beyond the point of any repair, and it cast people as heels who had no logical reason to do any of these things. Poor writing tends to alter characters to fit their story, rather than the better writing approach of adjusting a story so that it makes any sense for any of the characters. Superheroes fighting each other in such a petty way is revolting and nonsensical. Most of all, it's an insult to anyone who likes the characters...especially Tony Stark, who is the poster child for Marvel ruining whenever they need a heel. Completely irredeemable things are done in any version of the story, and on its face, it's ludicrous and interferes with any charitable suspension of disbelief.

KAM at 5:39AM, Feb. 18, 2021

I was never a big fan of hero vs. hero stories. There are times when they can work or feel natural, but basically it comes off like two kids in a sandbox screaming "My toy soldier can beat up your toy soldier!" The movie probably did as good a job as it was possible to do with that plot, but still it was not a plot I was invested in, or cared for, so it's not a movie I think very highly of, and will probably never rewatch.