usedbooks at 5:28PM, June 10, 2021
I've always been fond of ensembles and then duos. Single protagonists almost always end up with some level of Mary Sue, "chosen one," or "lone wolf" vibes, which are eye-rollingly unbearable to me. The only "single protagonist" stories I enjoy are quirky detectives in a whodunnit, and even then, they are better with a partner to play off of. They also tend to slip into the background of their stories, since the main players driving the plot are the suspects.
Andreas_Helixfinger at 12:02PM, June 10, 2021
I'm definitely using the theme as a protagonist for Imsies: the Imthology, as well as for Bloodiator, which will have its launch later this summer. There's something satisfyingly dynamic about having an anthology type of series where the theme encompasses any character/story you can think of with any relation to that theme. The Imsies don't even have to always be the leading protagonists in each and every story in their series, they just have to be involved in it somehow and they come in so many different forms, applicable to any kind of enviroment or element, that there's next to no way you can't have them be involved. So you get all these different perspectives, elements and dimensions that are only as limited as your imagination. One of the authors that I know so far that utilizes this dynamic the most and the best in his works is Thomas Ligotti, with Songs of a Dead Dreamer and Grimscribe, my favourite horror anthologies of all time.
PaulEberhardt at 6:08AM, June 10, 2021
Another interesting protagonist could be the "wannabe villain" type, like Iznogoud or Wile E. Coyote, or tragic / tragicomical protagonists in general. They're usually driven by some almost psychotic obsession that's always doomed to fail ("I want to be the caliph in place of the caliph!") paired with a complete lack of self-reflection, so at the outset they might not be really relatable to most of us (hopefully). However these intense painful funny moments when they're forced to face their own inadequacies somehow manage to change that. For a very brief span of time, it makes them become as human as any character could possibly get.
PaulEberhardt at 5:26AM, June 10, 2021
@Oz: totally agreed. My guess is the great late Sir Terry tried to add more depth and detail where it wasn't really needed, which made the later novels become like all the stuff he used to lampoon in his earlier days. I guess that's the difficulty of having a world as the main protagonist: you keep adding and adding to it, you probably even have to, and there's no way to go back to simpler times. Cerebus the aardvark might be another point in case. I read only tiny fractions of it, though, from various periods - in that series even a couple of hundred pages more would still only be a small fraction.
Ozoneocean at 12:57AM, June 10, 2021
Discworld sort of was, yes. Especially in the early days when Terry was doing mainly one-offs, before he started mainly doing series based around certain groups of characters. I loved those early books the best. Back then the Discworld was wild and untamed, anything could happen. We as the reader were exploring it at the same time as the characters and the author too! In the later stories the world had crystalised and shrunk, it wasn't nearly as interesting: basically just a fantasy version of late 19th century London with the rest of the wolrd tacked on as needed, VS the original which was completely amorphous, very dangerous, sexy, strange and unformed. A lot like the way Xanth changed actually!