I just finished doing a four page storyline, and honestly it was just a sloppy porn for fun stuff I done as a means of “visual comfort food” because I am going through a move at the moment.

I do try to put some effort into it, but mainly it is just something I have fun, try out some ideas and just plan old a way to work out some fantasies and issues I am working out. I some times feel horrible because I keep hearing youtube reviewers constantly go on about “nobody wants to read your wank fantasies”, and to be honest I question if I should just keep the comics to myself or even bother drawing them.

So I just thought I start a topic and see if anyone else does this.

That would be my “sketchbook” which is basically all I ever do anymore.
I used to fill up notebooks with intricate plot lines but I can never get around to actually doing it

It's a funny thing. I always seem to come up with stuff that I could just have it be a, like you said, comfort food sort of little venture. But then I remember the comics I'm doing and these other big projects and I end up sort of wave it away or weave it in, figuring that I am in a sense already doing that stuff but as part of something bigger and more ambitious thing.

I feel like I've figured out my identity as a creator and find myself stuck with it now. It sometimes makes me miss the days when I was still experimenting and basically just deriving all that I wrote or drew from other bodies of work for fun and nothing else. It feels like that was an easier time. But my urge to keep going with what I got now is always stronger, so there it is.

But as for your own situation, feeling like your stuff don't deserve attention or even to be drawn just because some people out there wanna act like they're the wine-tasters of art and rub it into peoples faces, I think that is something you shouldn't think too much about.

You look at sites like Newgrounds you have creators who thrives and grows big followings on their “wank fantasies”. I'm aware of these wine-taster types. I've seen thumbnails on Youtube that reads like “If you're writing fan-fiction you're a loser” or something like that, and I'm like, sure, there's a lot of fan-fiction that is bad, but there is fan-fiction out there that is really good also if you bother to look for it. I've come across some of it myself.

So if I were you I would give these wine-tasters the middle-finger and just do whatever I'm compelled to do. Just stick to whatever makes you feel good, man👍 And remember. Critics are supposed to help artists get better at what they do, not shit on them and make them want to quit. Critics who do the latter sucks and no artist should want to hear their pompous bullshit.

The critic who goes on about how “no one wants to read your wank fantasies ” is the person who couldn't write fiction if their life depended on it. They have little to no imagination of their own so no ability to suspend disbelief and have rarely been put in the real world and so have no idea about the wild stuff that goes on.
They need to be repeatedly hit in the head with a blunt object. Nothing to draw blood or anything, just knock a lick of sense into them without me having to explain that the sky is up and the earth is down. I despise their pretentious presence because they are often willfully ignorant but believe they have unlocked the secrets of the universe when all they've done is be able to match their socks up after mom does their laundry.

That's my rant.

Do what you want. I'm constantly experimenting and just learned some new things about the program I've been using for years. Listen, learn and keep trying new stuff and don't be afraid if it could be termed “masturbation by pen” you made it and it still feels good doesn't it? No matter how sick and masturabatory it seems check Deviant Art and there's someone who has a huge following that has been doing it for years.

That's why I started up ATROCITIES. It's my horrible masturabatory crap that I do as practice. Couldn't do anything else anywhere near as well as I do (or don't) without it. It's part of my growth as a digital artist so there it is. And amazingly it has been filling out bits of my world building too. Everything is grist of the mill from the wank crap to that comic Sistine Chapel ceiling you'll finish one day. The point is to just keep creating, create what you want and have fun doing it.

Now I've built on one of the storyline to make my new comic mess that is just mindless gladiatorial combat. It's stupid with a ridiculous title but I've having fun doing it and it's pure seat of the pants write up as I create panels. And I'm having fun. Hopefully that comes out in the comic or maybe I'm totally screwing the pooch, but I'm learning new stuff still and I get a kick out of doing it. Sure beats sitting around feeling sorry for myself and beating myself up for how crappy everything I do seems to turn out.

Also, by the way. The stuff that my comics and stories are composed of is basically like maybe 25-30 percent ideas, that I think are really clever, and like maybe 70-75 percent wank material of my own, and that's probably a overly generous estimation^^

Thank you for the feedback on the subject, it helps a lot.

I honestly felt bad for the longest time because of two main reasons, one is I use to watch Linkara a lot, recently I've been fading him out like the dozens of other youtubers in the past due to just losing interest and honestly he seems to become more and more bitter since his title card artist, Dr. Crafty, left for his own channel, and he is the one that often shouts about “wank material” on occasion.

The other is when I try hard to create a silly “porn” tabletop rpg that revolves around hurting monsters through bonds and sex, I kept it more Tromaville levels of silly, no need to go into complex descriptions as it was suppose to be in good fun and honestly I find it no more weirder than having a group of people talk about murdering and eating a child in horrific detail (an actual thing I've encountered in many tabletop groups). I brought this up on something like r/trpg or rpgnet and they acted like I was some kind of horrible monster.

Plus a large chunk of “true” rpg horror stories seems to focus on some guy who rather have sex in game instead of bashing somebody's brains in.

What's really weird, is other countries are cool with sex in their game. I remember there was an indie TRPG where combat happened by fucking the monster girls into submission and there was different maneuvers to use on them.

*Furwerk studio: welcome to human sexuality 201. The second semester class will go over hang-ups and frustration.

Prerequisites: Sexuality 101 and Introduction to Fetishes 102.

This is like textbook behavior around these things. Often the ones most uptight about it are the ones without a real sex life. It's some sort of secret thing that they want kept out of their nice clean RPG world.

At one point or another I dated every available woman I played RPGs with. One married couple used the week's session of D&D as foreplay. We'd get chased out of their place early some nights.

My first comic here, “Rimjob,” started out as a comic I did for my own amusement, and I had no intention of ever showing it to anyone. It was about one third done before I started posting any of it.

fallopiancrusader wrote:
My first comic here, “Rimjob,” started out as a comic I did for my own amusement, and I had no intention of ever showing it to anyone. It was about one third done before I started posting any of it.

That's pretty much also why I started to draw - I just wanted a comic with things I enjoy. You shouldn't listen to people who tell you “nobody wants to see that”. It most often just meants "this is something I don't like, so nobody should be doing it". When doing something for yourself, just draw and post whatever you like, maybe somebody else will see and enjoy it too.