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Gamejolt just banned all adult games.
Furwerk studio at 4:48PM, Jan. 13, 2022
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I dabbled in video game design, and made a few porn games, actually they were digital comics with mini animations, word balloons and sound trying to play with the infinite canvas idea, but still, it sat for a few years on Gamejolt and today I found out all of those games had been removed under the a new “no porn” rule. It sucks because I had done a full renovate on the account, new name, new banner and trying to learn how to code so I can make proper games.

They did this because they want to become a new social media site, aimed at teens.

Oh, and went other users tried to contact the moderators to find out what had happened, or try to point out they were wrongly taken down, the response was something sassy, mean or right out telling the former users to “fuck off.”

I am really trying not to be bitter about it because I really feel like modern gamers are so afraid of sex, nudity and fetishes, but it is very, very hard not to be.
hushicho at 11:46PM, Jan. 13, 2022
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Be bitter about it. Be angry. This is bullshit, and it shouldn't be tolerated by anyone. Convincing yourself to just shrug it off just enables these jackasses to try stunts like these again and again.

Never support the site again, and be sure to spread the word. Thank you very much for letting us know here, and I'll be sure to let my friends and colleagues know.

It is so important to spread the word about these bad practices. Wringing money out of teenagers is not happening with any of these attempted platforms, and if it works even for a time, it's not a viable long-term approach. But until the particular host crashes and burns and posts about its incredible journey, we absolutely need to keep creative people away from it.
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lothar at 2:32AM, Jan. 14, 2022
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It's the trend all over the internet. And not just porn. It seems that the early 2000z was the high water mark for freedom of expression.
Andreas_Helixfinger at 7:19AM, Jan. 14, 2022
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If you wanna find another site for you or anyone you know to host porn games I can recommend Newgrounds. They are down with porn as long as you give it the proper rating and its up to basic technical standards and ethics.

Funny. Newgrounds has been around since 1995, it's older even then the Duck (and I do kind of consider it the Drunk Duck of games and animation) and its still community controlled and still allows the expressive freedom it has done since day one.

It seems to always be the oldest of these sites that manage to keep its identity and artistic freedom going, while all these younger sites are the ones to capitulate to the trends.
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hushicho at 3:24PM, Jan. 14, 2022
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Most of the sites doing this particular stunt want to make bank off of what they're doing, or they wouldn't be doing it at all. They don't want the actual effort of supporting artists and creatives, that's hard and sometimes it's controversial and you have to think and make difficult decisions. Part of that is due to the fact that obscenity is a totally subjective label, used most times to give ignorant authorities carte blanche to oppose anything they don't like.

And don't kid yourself, this isn't just a recent trend. This has always been how the internet was. Trends like this have always been around. Any creators who don't do “family friendly” nonsense have always been used to build platforms and sites, then made unwelcome when those same platforms and sites decide to be lazy down the line.

Google and Apple both have been among the worst companies for freedom, creativity, and expression, and their decisions to discriminate against adult content or mature anything – unless it's backed by a big studio and makes them $$$ – have influenced a lot of these much smaller fry. Which naturally is extremely irresponsible, but they don't care; they're lazy and want to do the minimum at any point so they can do even less. It doesn't actually occur to them that this is a bad idea until they start losing money and losing people who can be bothered to give a fuck about what boring homogenized nothing they're doing.

As always, a bunch of money-chasing assbags have looked to this strategy because they think it's easier and more profit-oriented, rather than actually aligning themselves with art, creativity, even the creative industry. They've gambled unwisely, since the up-and-coming users of the internet are more against censorship overall than practically anyone before, but it will take time for these companies to notice their error. It'll take time, too, for most of them to disappear after their incredible journey.

Being anyone who doesn't cater to the mainstream, especially if you do anything provocative or daring, means you always have to have an exit strategy, no matter what. You can never be comfortable anywhere for long. And that is an unfortunate way we have been made to live our lives, and anywhere and everywhere I can fight a group of horrible people causing that, I will.
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Furwerk studio at 9:01AM, Jan. 17, 2022
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Wow, it was such a bad move it wound up on Jim Sterling's show and is having a few PC gaming sites asking “why?”.

Anyway I talked to a few hobbyist/solo devs and found that the site has been, at best, deader than disco. A lot of complaints they had is there was not only a flood of fangames, but a tsunami of anti/hater “fan”games that downright mock a fandom.

And those were the worse “games” released as they tend to be quickly thrown together in Renpy in maybe less than a few minutes, the images used were a lot of stolen ref photos.

And a quick glance at their site while I try to get my money out of them, the problem actually had gotten much, much worse.
hushicho at 3:58PM, Jan. 17, 2022
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Hey, disco persists to this day and is one of the most diverse and influential genres of the past century!

But personal tastes aside, that's super unsurprising. Pulling a stunt like this in an attempt to revitalize a flagging host is pretty common too. They love to build themselves off of inclusiveness and tolerating content that isn't general audiences. But when they have to put in effort, that's always the first things to go: tolerance and inclusiveness, and anything that isn't for a general heterosexual mainstream family.

It's a clumsy attempt to make a bid for a broader audience, which never seems to realize that these actions drive away the loyal users of the site or platform. It would actually be far more likely to have success if they were to instead appeal to people who gave that site or platform what success it had. Loyalty can get you a lot, and not even trying just drives home the fact that they have no faith in their users, even to the point of assuming that they have nothing of value to contribute to the thing staying afloat.

But they never seem to learn that. And one would think that with anything niche market, anyone going into it would know that from the beginning.

But one would be very mistaken.
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lothar at 2:16AM, Jan. 18, 2022
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Loyalty indeed
bravo1102 at 4:54AM, Jan. 18, 2022
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They've forgotten that as Avenue Q put it so succinctly and correctly the internet is for porn.

Sadly down to #2 on the list of most common web content. For so long it was #1. Now sports is #1, porn #2 and UFOs #3.
Furwerk studio at 7:23AM, Jan. 18, 2022
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bravo1102 wrote:
They've forgotten that as Avenue Q put it so succinctly and correctly the internet is for porn.

Sadly down to #2 on the list of most common web content. For so long it was #1. Now sports is #1, porn #2 and UFOs #3.

I say it is a distant fourth now, at least in English speaking circles as it goes #1 Conspiracy theories, #2 “Army” politics (left-right-left-right), and #3 streaming games, usually all three can happen at once now.

Kind of a shame really.
bravo1102 at 11:23AM, Jan. 18, 2022
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Furwerk studio wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:
They've forgotten that as Avenue Q put it so succinctly and correctly the internet is for porn.

Sadly down to #2 on the list of most common web content. For so long it was #1. Now sports is #1, porn #2 and UFOs #3.

I say it is a distant fourth now, at least in English speaking circles as it goes #1 Conspiracy theories, #2 “Army” politics (left-right-left-right), and #3 streaming games, usually all three can happen at once now.

Kind of a shame really.

No. According to independent sources it's sports, pornography, conspiracy theories (that has subsumed the topic of UFOs) like nine of the ten most common searches are sports related. And Tik Tok has taken over from Google and that is ruled by people showing off body parts and conspiracy theories. The Chinese will be taking over any minute so study up your Mandarin.
Furwerk studio at 1:41PM, Jan. 18, 2022
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I missed when conspiracy theories was mainly the government hiding alien porn in Ontario Canada or Elvis was really alive instead of “fake” elections and time periods not existing for idiotic reasons. As for the sports, eh, I'm a hockey fan so I can dig it.

I guess I'm just kind of down after losing a source of revenue for a very, not regulated, bottledneck? I'm going with bottleneck. For a very tightly bottlenecked industry that I lost a lot of passion for.

As for everything else, at least we can watch bootleg version of Haunted Cop Shop now.
Ozoneocean at 6:11PM, Feb. 6, 2022
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lothar wrote:
It's the trend all over the internet. And not just porn. It seems that the early 2000z was the high water mark for freedom of expression.
Exactly. The mid 2000s were the high point of the internet.
The corporations and governments didn't really know how to control it then. Now they do.
 

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