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marcorossi at 3:46AM, April 22, 2024
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I think there is also the fact that younger people have stronger emotions, so the characters of the series I liked as a kid will have a bigger “emotional footprint” for me than characters of more recent stuff.

This IMHO can lead to some overvaluation of old stuff: things that I remember as supercool because they were supercool to me at the time, but I think they are also factually superior to stuff that I watch naw from a more jaded perspective, even though if I was younger today I would think that the characters of today are supercool.
bravo1102 at 4:14AM, April 22, 2024
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Some people mature faster than others. Others feel some obligation to NOT like what all the “cool” kids like. There are occasional real-life “individuals.”

Also tastes become more nuanced as people mature because of experience and education (not just formal schooling, could also be informal education outside of mere experience)

And then there are those who insist on liking something because no one else does. Plenty of people on this site wear their tastes in obscure bands as a badge of honor and heap derision on “pop” music.

By the way the term “it thing” goes back to at least the 1940s with the “it girl” Who or what is most popular that everyone who is anyone is into “it” . Been listening to popular radio shows of the 1940s and it was already part of the lingo. Possibly could go back to the 1920s which was full of fads and “it” things that the “in” crowd are following.
(I was amazed to discover the term “hipster” in a 1945 letter by Louis Armstrong to Orson Welles)
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J_Scarbrough at 8:51AM, April 22, 2024
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I'll admit that as a kid, there were plenty of things that I would dislike compared to other kids simply because I found them overrated, RUGRATS being one of them (keep in mind, this was before SpongeBob took over Nickelodeon as we knew it). On the flip side however, there was plenty of things that I genuinely liked that nobody else did, but the fact that nobody else liked them in no way influenced my enjoyment of such things, like COW AND CHICKEN or ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE; I seriously loved both shows, but everybody else hated them.

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bravo1102 at 10:04AM, April 22, 2024
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COW AND CHICKEN or ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE; I seriously loved both shows, but everybody else hated them.
Never thought those two would appeal to kids and they were originally broadcast in prime time. Can't see how kids could get the satire especially in Rocko's Modern Life. But twenty somethings loved them. Wasn't crazy about Cow and Chicken which was an acquired taste, but loved I.M. Weasel. Actually know all the words to the theme song. Lol.
I knew a girl in Middle school who was adamant that she didn't like Star Wars and would spare no chance to tell you. It was obvious that some of it was because everyone gushed about it all the time and she was stuck up and just had to show how superior she was by not liking what everyone else liked. This was 1977 so it was still just STAR WARS with no episode IV or New Hope. That 70's Show had a great episode about what it was like then. It was like movies had been invented all over again.
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Ozoneocean at 9:47PM, April 22, 2024
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J_Scarbrough wrote:
like COW AND CHICKEN or ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE; I seriously loved both shows, but everybody else hated them.
Both of these were directly inspired by Ren and Stimpy and that grossout semi-adult, “weird” style of knowing humour.

Cow and Chicken was more for older kids and teens, definitely leaning on wierdness and grossness (bit too hard a lot of the time). I never really liked it for that reason. It was closely related to I Am Weasal and I only liked that for Michael Dorn.

I LOVED Rocko's Modern Life though.
That had the right balance. It shaved off all the twee nasty wanky massively over-indulgent crap that Ren and Stimpy had with its creator's extreme fetishisation of the 1960s. It also didn't have the over-reliance of grossness and weirdness for it's own sake that Cow and Chicken copied.
Rocko was just brillian, it was smooth and streamlined. It had great characters and humour, great popculture refences, and great original writing.
It was done in a way that made it have the ability to apeal to kids but the story content and refences were certainly very adult.
It's a great show! Much better tat what inspired it.

Rugrats was pretty good in the begining, as was Sponge bob, PowerPuf girls and a lot of shows of that era but in later seasons they shited their demographic to aim at young kids and the quality massively dropped off. None of them were originall meant for younger children but that's what they became because parents are morons who sit kids in front of colourful characters with funny voices.
InkyMoondrop at 11:09PM, April 22, 2024
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And that is why I came to appreciate Animaniacs.
bravo1102 at 4:22AM, April 23, 2024
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InkyMoondrop wrote:
And that is why I came to appreciate Animaniacs.
Rocko was great and all but Animaniacs was must watch, set the VCR TV.

I liked I.M. Weasel because it was a cartoon centered around “you can't fix stupid” I.R. Baboon was the epitome of stupid and I.M. Weasel was the guy trying keep the stupid from overwhelming the world.
J_Scarbrough at 8:34AM, April 23, 2024
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ANIMANIACS was certainly a great show, but when it comes to the trio of Steven Spielberg-produced toons, FREAKAZOID! gets the vote from me in terms of absolute favorite. Co-creator/Freakazoid voice actor Paul Rugg is both a hoot and super nice guy; I've bantered with him on Facebook a time or two in the past.

POWERPUFF GIRLS and DEXTER'S LABORATORY both suffered under the hands of one man: Chris Savino. When he became the showrunner for both shows after Craig McCracken moved on to work on FOSTER'S HOME FOR IMAGINARY FRIENDS, and Genndy Tartakovsky moved on to work on SAMURAI JACK and others, Savino essentially ruined both shows what with changing the art styles (which he reasoned was better than keeping them exactly the same, because either choice would have made the shows suck anyway), but also retconning a lot of what had already been previously established, like how Dexter and Mandark met. Sure, it was nice to give Mandark a backstory, and show us that he had Flower Power hippy parents who named him Susan (a nod to the Johnny Cash song), but changing how they met to Mandark actually wanting to be friends with Dexter, but Dexter refusing turned Mandark into the victim and Dexter into the bad guy was a huge disservice. Not that it was totally OOC for Dexter, as he often looked down on those whose intelligence was inferior to his, including his own family (especially Dee Dee), but the whole point was that 1. Mandark proved to be a worth adversary/nemesis for Dexter for actually being smarter than him, and 2. Mandark was just pure and plain evil from the get-go, so making him the victim instead was like a cliched scorn/revenge plot.

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bravo1102 at 9:03AM, April 23, 2024
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FREAKAZOID was also a personal favorite. Totally demented especially with how they worked in satire on Clinton. Still remember the episode where Freakazoid stops the attack on Pearl Harbor with the Blazing Saddles toll booth gag and in the alternate universe Pinky is the US President.

I missed most of the retconning of DEXTER and only saw the special past, present and future Dexter showdown with Mandark, snd the Paul Williams and Dom Delouise guest appearances. As for POWERPUFF Girls I gave up and went back to Anime magical girls like Project A-ko and Cutey Honey. But I was already an adult and moved on to more mature offerings. I was building up my anime collection.
InkyMoondrop at 11:11AM, April 23, 2024
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I know it's called “social deduction”, so it's not meant to be played against the computer, but I for one am devastated by how I have to interact with a player community to play my favorite type of game. And I mean a player community which is toxic (I know, I'm way too sensitive that I find people hurling insults or slurs at each other at every turn if the game doesn't go their way or they're bored to be toxic, the average is completely used to it by now, but it really ruins the entire experience for me). I loved Mindnight, but hated the player base and now it's dead. There would be others to try, like Town of Salem or its sequel, Matriarch, whatever… but I'd have to assume if it's a problem in one place it's a problem generally as well. And good luck getting your friends to play online games with you if you can't even get most of them to even look at your creative work for almost two years. I wouldn't care if it's AI or not, I'd welcome options and so far I've only heard of one such game with a single player option - that didn't convince me it's any good.
J_Scarbrough at 1:25PM, April 23, 2024
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Honestly, what online community isn't toxic on some level? Well, the DD community certainly isn't, but that's beside the point.

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Ozoneocean at 8:46PM, April 29, 2024
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I've been so stretched thin lately.
Ironscarf at 9:03AM, April 30, 2024
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Ozoneocean wrote:
I've been so stretched thin lately.
Stretch Armstrong made quite a career out of it, but not so good for the rest of us. Is it a multitude of competing work and life demands, or pressure you're putting on yourself to do certain things?



I was doing so well at the start of my comic with almost weekly updates, but gradually slipped back into my old ways. It's disappointing, but I'm finally discovering things about how my peculiar brain is wired that might help me get back on track. Digits crossed.
Ozoneocean at 1:51AM, May 1, 2024
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Ironscarf wrote:
Stretch Armstrong made quite a career out of it, but not so good for the rest of us. Is it a multitude of competing work and life demands, or pressure you're putting on yourself to do certain things?

Both :(

Ironscarf wrote:
I was doing so well at the start of my comic with almost weekly updates, but gradually slipped back into my old ways. It's disappointing, but I'm finally discovering things about how my peculiar brain is wired that might help me get back on track. Digits crossed.
Hahaha! Same with me. I'm working on this Key Of Dreams thing but stuff keeps getting in the way lol!
J_Scarbrough at 7:02AM, May 3, 2024
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The internet: “Nobody's talking about SpongeBob's 25th anniversary, boo-hoo!”

Also the internet: “Yap-yap-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary-blah-blah-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary-drivel-drivel-drivel-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary.”

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Ozoneocean at 10:26PM, May 4, 2024
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J_Scarbrough wrote:
The internet: “Nobody's talking about SpongeBob's 25th anniversary, boo-hoo!”

Also the internet: “Yap-yap-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary-blah-blah-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary-drivel-drivel-drivel-SpongeBob's 25th anniversary.”
The “internet” comes out with so much crap and it just passes over my head a sails away somewhere else… I'm not connected to any of it.
Didn't even know about the Sponge Bob stuff.

There's this stuff about bears and men and how men are scarier than bears or something? Honestly I've only seen the briefest 3rd had snippets of that back and forth crap (“yes they are” “no we're not” etc) and it's not for me.
I wasn't even aware of Andrew Tate and that crazy “doctor” Petersen till they were already over.

I SERIOUSLY believe that “the Internet” as people refer to it only actually makes up about 0.01 percent of the internet population and they're mainly based around a few Toktok, Youtube, and twitter accounts with a few others scattered here and there. Oh and half of them are just Russian bots. (on both sides).
Genejoke at 4:09AM, May 5, 2024
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I have no idea what most of those things are you're talking about.
Ozoneocean at 5:14AM, May 5, 2024
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Genejoke wrote:
I have no idea what most of those things are you're talking about.
Precisely!
bravo1102 at 5:42AM, May 5, 2024
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The men and bears thing is simple.

Men are horrible awful things that never listen to women, never believe women nor have any respect for women. Whereas a bear probably just wants to be left alone and won't bother you. So bears are preferable to men. I responded that most of that is because men talk and bears don't and we should consider what Mrs. Bear thinks about all this. So I got jumped by the the knee jerk types who say “that's not what this is about”

They brought up bears, how do bears treat their mates? They don't mate for life. They don't have sex face to face. In fact most mammals mating is damn close to what we humans call rape. Oh, but the knee jerk types don't want to hear that. Oh no, human men have no respect for women and unless you totally listen amd agree you're a fascist patriarchal monster. I'm a 1970s ERA equalitarian. You want respect and to listened to? Respect and listen. Don't spew a nonsensical analogy and expect someone who thinks outside the box not to knee jerk "totally agree, no criticism at all. Don't think just nod head because don't want to upset the powerful agenda.

That's my rant.
Well ladies you prefer a bear? May I recommend polar bears. Grizzlies and black bears just want to be left alone. Polar bears will treat you like prey.
Ozoneocean at 6:38PM, May 5, 2024
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Hahaha ew

Baby bears are the cutest things, I LOVE them so much. From a distance.
Adult bears are bloody scary….

They're close genetically to dogs and they sort of look like crazy, scary huge monster dogs in a way.
J_Scarbrough at 10:11PM, May 5, 2024
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Seeing the promos for this new FOP reboot series, I have to ask . . . what is with this trend of really choppy CGI animation lately? It's really not that appealing if you ask me. Yeah, I know; nobody asked me.

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Ozoneocean at 12:48AM, May 6, 2024
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I didn't see any posts on my social media celebrating Cinco De Mayo yesterday :(

People are just not interested in that anymore -_-
bravo1102 at 1:41AM, May 6, 2024
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Ozoneocean wrote:
I didn't see any posts on my social media celebrating Cinco De Mayo yesterday :(

People are just not interested in that anymore -_-
Everything was huge for May the Fourth. Think Star Wars really has taken all the interest in what was always just a reason to drink.
J_Scarbrough at 8:59AM, May 6, 2024
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Not to mention the Kentucky Derby was apparently this weekend as well. There was a strange blurb on the radio proposing that all three occasions be amalgamized into one big holiday weekend called May the Horse Be With You, in which STAR WARS fans could watch horse races while eating tacos and drinking mint julip.

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Niccea at 11:24AM, May 6, 2024
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Ozoneocean wrote:
I didn't see any posts on my social media celebrating Cinco De Mayo yesterday :(

People are just not interested in that anymore -_-

Sorry I was too blitzed on margs to make a post. My bad.
PaulEberhardt at 12:06AM, May 8, 2024
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J_Scarbrough wrote:
Not to mention the Kentucky Derby was apparently this weekend as well. There was a strange blurb on the radio proposing that all three occasions be amalgamized into one big holiday weekend called May the Horse Be With You, in which STAR WARS fans could watch horse races while eating tacos and drinking mint julip.

That combination sounds random enough to be just my kind of party. 😎🍻

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJp1NnOFKVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP8rC1absMI

(btw.: Yee-haw!)
Ozoneocean at 5:41AM, May 10, 2024
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I happened to see my reflection yesterday and see what I was wearing- slim black pinstripe trousers, a black long sleeve button up shirt, red brown motorcycle jacket, hair in pulled back in a ponytail, dark glasses.
I look like a well to do drugdealer, pimp, or a strip club owner 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Oh dear 😅

Tomorrow bin dressing as Tom Baker's Dr Who at least so I'll be doing something different!
Ozoneocean at 6:46PM, May 12, 2024
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My Tom Baker Doctor Who cosplay was a success!
The funny thing was that I realised I am older that Tom Baker when he finished with the character in 1981 but I look younger than when he started with it in 1974 XD
plymayer at 4:33AM, May 13, 2024
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J_Scarbrough wrote:
Honestly, what online community isn't toxic on some level? Well, the DD community certainly isn't, but that's beside the point.

While I agree that the DD community is not toxic, state an opinion that isn't “what your supposed to believe” and some will jump all over you. Some will be nasty too.

But we are better at IDIC than most. No slam on CF as I post over there too but their forums can be down right mean and evil if you say the wrong thing or have the wrong opinion.
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But we are better at IDIC than most. No slam on CF as I post over there too but their forums can be down right mean and evil if you say the wrong thing or have the wrong opinion.

And quite unforgiving. A permanent ban is permanent.

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