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QUACKCAST 427 - Betrayal

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, May 21, 2019

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Betrayal is an interesting thing to use in fiction. You can have betrayal of your nation, your organisation, friends, lovers, religion, beliefs, self. In stories it can be used to add a nasty twist or completely change the flow of events and alter the balance of power in a dramatic way! It can be devastating in relationships. The story of Judas betraying Christ for 30 pieces of silver is one of the most famous betrayal stories and became so iconic that the phrase “30 pieces of silver” or just the word “Judas” became synonymous with the act. Of course the inspiration for the best treachery and betrayal comes from real life and the names of the betrayers often echo down through history. IFrom Rome we have Brutus, in the USA the name “Benedict Arnold” has a similar meaning to “Judas”, the 20th century gave us the term “quisling” after the Norwegian political leader Vidkun Quisling who sold his country out to the Nazis.

Betrayal is a horrible thing to experience, but it can be very useful in fiction- as long as you don't also betray your audience by not properly bracketing, contextualising or justifying the betrayal, i.e Captain America and the “Hail Hydra” fiasco. Betrayals are an extremely powerful tool because they can absolutely and very suddenly reverse and alter plot, character relationships, story structure and the audience expectations all on one fell swoop, so it's best not to handle them in such an amateur, soap opera fashion.

This week Gunwallace has given us the theme to Through the Window: Flamenco, Latin, fast stepping, toe tapping, heel stomping to this powerful rhythm that wants to get your body up and moving, swaying and spinning on the dance floor, shimmying with your partner, fast and intense!

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Featured comic:
The way of the Waifu -

Featured music:
Through the Window -, by Andore Mordre, rated E.

Betrayal newspost by Tantz Aerine -

Special thanks to:
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Abt_Nihil at 7:48AM, May 23, 2019

That's definitely better for your mental health ;)

Ozoneocean at 5:00AM, May 23, 2019

@Abt - ah, I don't follow the politics at all.

Ozoneocean at 4:59AM, May 23, 2019

PQ Gunwallace, he'll set your right!

Mana Senshi at 3:01PM, May 22, 2019

Oh my gosh, the Through the Window theme was beautiful! Is there a way to download it/purchase it?

Andore Mordre at 2:56PM, May 22, 2019

Loved the theme for Through the Window! Thanks so much for that! :D

Abt_Nihil at 12:22PM, May 22, 2019

I see :) Well, it *was* a sudden turn, but it was played for shock value. I'm not saying it was a particularly well constructed narrative, but on a par with the usual "let's pretend we're shaking up the status quo and after a few months return to it by implausible means" superhero stuff. That it has such a bad reputation and is always singled out as a bad example has more to do with the recent politics of the comic business, *cough comicsgate cough* and I resent that. Secret Empire writer Nick Spencer pissed comics fans off similar to how Rian Johnson pissed Star Wars fans off with The Last Jedi.

Ozoneocean at 10:22AM, May 21, 2019

The idea was based on a dream I had and I emailed that to Tantz for her newspost. She came to with the point about Captain America for an example of how to do it badly. My favourite good example is Dune ☺

Ozoneocean at 9:34AM, May 21, 2019

I only know what Tantz Aerine has told me and the comic pages and things she directed me to -I trust her because she's a a bright bulb :) From what I gather it was quite a sudden turn and absolutely did not fit with the 50 or 60 or so years of established cannon. You can do that sort of thing but it's soap-opera level stuff.

Abt_Nihil at 8:35AM, May 21, 2019

Et tu, Oz? You, of all people, perpetuate the myth that the Captain America "betrayal" was "not properly bracketed, contextualised or justified"... when it was really just nerd rage... primarily from the toxic kind of nerd :(

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