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QUACKCAST 473 - Genre vs Setting

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, April 7, 2020

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In this Quackcast we talk about the differences between genre and setting and what genre really is. For instance: Fantasy and SciFi aren't genres, they're settings… Mostly. It's complicated but they both pretty much USED to be genres, now they're mainly just settings for genre stories to take place in. What does that mean?
Well, Fantasy wasn't even considered a genre back in the day, not really till after the success of Tolkien. Later on a lot of writers began using that same style and consumers really wanted it, so it became a “genre”. It was only later on when it graduated out of that to become a setting that has genre stories set within it.

Scifi was much the same. We backdate the “genre” to Mary Shelly, Jules Verne, HG Wells etc, but that's actually a little silly. SciFi was invented back in the 1920s by publisher Hugo Gernsback as a niche marketing term for his pulp magazines. He bundled together a whole bunch of futuristic stories and works of speculative fiction to sell under that name and created a market for it. That created the genre that people started to write within and to. Now however SciFi is really just a setting that has genre stories within it: detective fiction, nior, action, romance, Western, apocalypse, etc.

This happens when the genre becomes so diverse and ubiquitous that the commonality between stories within it becomes less important than the differences- i.e. the fact that a story is a romance is more significant than the fact it's set in the future, we really don't care too much about the future setting. While in the past it's that future setting which would have been the main selling point.

Think of it in terms of anime, if you have a good familiarity with it. Years ago people thought of anime as a monolithic “genre”, with all the cartoons roughly sharing a lot of themes and styles. This was mainly because only a small amount of it got exported to the west. Now however a massive amount is available and it's very easy to see how different it is. Now “Anime” really only indicates where the cartoon came from, not what kind of product you're going to get.

This week Gunwallace has given us the theme to Just wanna do porn webcomics - A dark room, the air is warm and close. Sweat, passion, heat… the only sound is heavy breathing… as the webcomicer furiously draws the latest issue of their racy webcomic! A lot of moans, vocal distortion and sexy synth music in this one.

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arspitzer at 9:20PM, April 7, 2020

Thanks for the theme song, Gunwallace... very nice!

Ozoneocean at 11:40AM, April 7, 2020

I'm ok. I think what's happening is that for some reason the broadcast software slows down my voice so it sounds really weird and deep. I think that's done to match the delay from Banes and Tantz. You can hear my normal voice on the feature review.

Ozoneocean at 11:39AM, April 7, 2020

We're very fluid in our writing styles and adherence to genre rules :D

Andreas_Helixfinger at 1:57AM, April 7, 2020

@Ozoneocean - By the way, I just have to ask. Are you okay, Oz? You sounded like you were having a cold or something recording this.

Andreas_Helixfinger at 1:55AM, April 7, 2020

Once again, really informative quackcast, you guys👍 On Banes forum topic about this, that he posted up before this, I was commenting about how I thought my stories could be defined genre-wise, and I kind of realize from listening to this that my stand as a webcomic creator really is pretty much the same as my stand as a webcomic reader. I don't really bother with genres over all reading webcomics, I don't think I really ever have in any kind of fiction that I've engaged in, now or in the past. I feel like what's more interesting to me is not so much what is being told, but how. I find myself seeing my fellow creators on DD as their own genre in a way, like, this is how Tantz Aerine makes her comics, this is how Bravo1102 makes his comics, this is how Fallopiancrusader makes his comics and so on, and so on. It becomes more about the style-development and overall personality of the artist and storyteller, rather then whatever setting- and -genre conventions are being conveyed.

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