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Quackcast 714 - Future Weapons

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, Nov. 19, 2024
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Last week we had an overview of weapons throughout history and how it's a constant game of balance and oneupmanship. Now we're looking at future weapons and Scifi stuff! There's a lot of potential and a lot of interesting ideas you can use in comics and stories. We talk about a few of these and some of our faves, as well as our own inventions.

Future weapons can take all different forms, many kinds of directed energy weapons, energy propelled projectiles, satellite based weapons, drone and robot technology, autonomous weapons systems etc. Biological and chemical weapons are super scary but generally pretty useless in reality, even as terrorist weapons because they're so imprecise and uncontrollable and take a lot of work to set up and deploy. This means they will hit people who aren't your target and they also have an excellent chance of not even working at all despite all the preparation and cost, so we're not even bothering with these in the discussion.

One future Scifi weapon concept that always comes up are “plasma” weapons. These are super undefined and no one really knows what they are because they can be so many things. When it comes to weapons what we mean by “plasma” is the very hot gas that has free ions so that it's electrically conductive like metal. We know dangerous plasma mostly from its use as a cutting torch in welding and also the gigantic planet sized solar flares that seem to erupt from the surface of the sun are plasma that's following the huge loop of a magnetic field projecting from the sun, because it can be controlled by magnetic fields. Given this it can be used in a few different ways as a weapon: you can use it like an explosive chemical propellant for firing bullets, you can use it as a sort of flame thrower (especially effective if you can direct it with a magnetic field), you can contain balls of plasma with magnetic fields and throw them like canon shells, or you can use the plasma as an electrically conductive medium to direct lightning bolts.

Directed energy weapons are very traditionally SciFi but have only ever seen limited practical usage despite the old popularity of the “Death Ray” and lasers as weapons. They're attractive because the only limiting factor is your energy source, you don't need to carry ammunition so theoretically you can have unlimited shots, they travel at the speed of light so you can't miss, they're not affected by friction or gravity so there are no ballistics to work out either, there's also no loss in energy like there is with traditional guns where the propulsive explosion badly transfers energy to the projectile. The trouble is that they don't work very well as weapons because you need to put in a LOT of energy to do any damage over a distance because they don't work well in an atmosphere, you also have to hold it on a target for a long time. This category includes the aforementioned lasers, microwave weapons, electron beams, particle beams etc They have a lot more potential as space weapons where atmosphere isn't an issue and their lack of recoil is a huge advantage.

Electrically accelerated projective weapons known as “mass drivers” are another category. They are capable to much higher speeds than traditional guns or missiles because they're not limited by the compression of gasses. In this group we have Gauss guns aka coil guns, rail guns and some other variations. They use magnetic or electrical fields to accelerate projectiles. The main advantage is speed, increased safety because they don't need dangerous propellant, and shots only limited by your electrical capacity. The disadvantages of these systems is that they're very complicated, they can't use explosive projectiles, and they have a high failure rate- Railguns are the most promising system but each time they fire they produce clouds of burning fire, which is caused by layers of metal being stripped from the rails inside them, which means they degrade very quickly and the rails have to be replaced constantly.

We all know the potential of drones, but the use of autonomous self directed weapons where the drones can pick their own targets is where they become scary. Autonomous weapons are already a reality in large defence turrets on ships, around army bases, and important buildings (like the Whitehouse). They can be set to radar directed target acquisition, which they need for defence against fast moving missiles. Machine gun turrets on the defences along the DMZ between North and South Korea also work like this. Even cruise missiles are somewhat autonomous in that they can find their own way to their targets. What we're really worried about though are things like predator drones or tracked bomb disposal robots coming after us with weapons like mounted machine guns, both are possible and have been tested.

Satellites have limited weapon capability, none have enough power onboard to carry useful energy weapons, while mass drivers and traditional projectile weapons introduce the problem of recoil which is extremely hard to cope with for a satellite in orbit. They can carry missiles like nuclear weapons be they're extremely vulnerable to attack for such an expensive weapon. successful experiments have been made using traditional guns against other satellites but they're very messy and dangerous to everything in orbit. A stupid idea that was proposed were the “rods of god”: giant tungsten poles which the satellite could drop as destructive gravity driven bombs, The trouble is that would be super expensive to get into space, the accuracy is extremely bad and the energy needed to aim them would be too costly. It would only be useful as a “sword of Damocles” if you had them always hanging over specific targets, but even then they'd be very easy to disable.

We came up with our own future weapons. Mine was a marshmallow gun that would spray masses of harmless sugary marshmallow fluff all over your enemies, then use a microwave emitter to massively expand the marshmallow and heat it to debilitating levels. This would envelop people in masses of injurious, burning gooey muck, which would then harden on them and any surface it touched. It would also be terrible for the insides of electronics and machinery.
I could talk about a LOT more but let's leave it for now. Listen to the cast! What are YOUR fave future weapons and how do they work?


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Ozoneocean at 8:32AM, Nov. 20, 2024

@Marco- very good point about weapon power for different story types. Star Wars specialises in that hahaha! All weapons in that are always useless unless the plot demands it at that moment- without the plot demanding it weans do nothing. And the bigger and more powerful the warship, the more useless its weapons are, the smaller and weaker the ship though and it can basically destroy an entire moon with a single shot.

Ozoneocean at 8:29AM, Nov. 20, 2024

@Bravo - thank goodness people censor stuff with guns. They're pretty horrible. Though small bore weapons will kill you just as bad without big bloody holes.

Ozoneocean at 8:27AM, Nov. 20, 2024

@PaulEberhardt - that is 100% accurate ^_^

PaulEberhardt at 10:00AM, Nov. 19, 2024

One of my earliest failed attempts at a science fiction draft - aeons ago - featured rayguns that needed to charge a capacitor before shooting, which took ages and produced an irritating whining noise. As it had no proper sights it was impossible to aim, and it'd run out of battery after just two shots, which would be announced by a loud beeping alarm and a bright warning light. Since most parts were cheap plastic, they tended to fall apart just when the warranty expired. And if they worked, well, any small-bore pistol would have more range and power; the raygun would make a terrifying bang when fired and an impressive flash, because of the ionising air, but the energy would quickly disperse with distance, to deliver no more than an annoying tingle. Still, everyone in that future would use nothing else, because everyone knows rayguns are so damn cool (Also, they came with great freebies like an inbuilt watch and spacey stickers for customisation).

bravo1102 at 9:15AM, Nov. 19, 2024

There are of course laughable exceptions like some horror films. Many movies underestimate damage because of ratings. You can't have heads blown open from gunshot wounds in a PG-13 movies.

marcorossi at 7:26AM, Nov. 19, 2024

In the first webcomic I wrote, that was a cyberpunk story, I had the idea that while the society where the charachters are living is quite degraded, there is a limited access for firearms, so people mostly use stuff like tasers or similar. In my view, if we are speaking of personal weapons (not megacannons or similar), low powered stuff is better for stories because people like to see people fighting, the hero is hit but struggles on etc.; if people just are vaporized at the first strike stuff becomes much less funny. In TTRPGS ofter firearms weapons are underpowered relative to reality, to make the gameplay funnier and more "Hollywood like". Even in sci-fi stories where people have funny laser weapons (that look cool because of the light effects) often these weapons are less damaging than a modern day firearm would be, to make action scenes more interesting.

bravo1102 at 7:23AM, Nov. 19, 2024

Actually some movies use modified firearms as "lasers" and have the actors shoot them to more accurately put in the beam later. So they do have recoil. Lol


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