Episode 588 - Revisiting Old Ideas

Jun 20, 2022

Sometimes it's worth revisiting old ideas because you can do them better or explore them deeper. This could be in the form of a full reboot, or it could be as simple as reusing a pose in a panel or using the same theme again like Pixar does with 90% of their output i.e. “coming of age”. Like them you don't need to feel obligated to always do something totally original, revisiting old ideas is a great way to refine them, create better work, or explore different aspects of them you hadn't considered before and put new and interesting spins on things. Consider that Pixar's Turning Red, Encanto, Moana, Coco, The Incredibles 2, Ratatouille, Inside Out, Brave, Onward, and Luca all share the same “coming of age/childhood independence” theme and yet all do it in unique and original ways, exploring different aspects of the idea from all sorts of angles.

Topics and Show Notes

Most of the women that Frank Cho and Milo Manara draw look the same, but they do it in such an interesting way that people love them nevertheless. Leonardo daVinci and or his students painted at least 4 different Mona Lisas and probably many drawings; practice make perfect! How many film and comic versions of the origin story of Batman, Superman, and Spider-man are there? SarahN on Drunk Duck used to restart and redo her comic “Vampire Phantasm” annually, maybe 5 different times, and it just got better and better and more interesting with each iteration. Amelius on DD did a soft reboot of the origin of Charby The Vampirate called “ReVamped” where she went back and tweaked the origin story a little and redrew the pages with much improved art, however she didn't stop working on the original story, that kept going at the same time!

So you see there is a lot of merit in revisiting things and improving upon them! For every George Lucas inserting bad animation and “Noooooo”s into iconic and much loved films there are many more people who revisit older creations and do much better things with them. What do you wish you could redo with your work or how do you reuse old ideas? For me it's usually specific panels… sometimes they bug me too much and I go back and change them. They could be 15 years old but I'll still do it!

This week Gunwallace has given us a theme to TAoSP The Adventures of Sir Power - In the words of the master behind this tune: funky theme for a comic that's a little bit ‘funky’. It really is a bouncing funk, with a fuzzy, spiky sound that vibrates and cuts its way through.

Topics and shownotes

Links

Charby The Vampirate ReVamped - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/ReVamped/
You can find SarahN's much revisited Vampire Phantasm here - http://www.vermillionworks.com/
*Wrongly called “Jack” in the cast.

Featured comic:
The Werewolf Prince - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2022/jun/14/featured-comic-the-werewolf-prince/

Featured music:
TAoSP - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/TAoSP/ - by Zero Hour, rated M.


Special thanks to:
Gunwallace - http://www.virtuallycomics.com
Tantz Aerine - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Tantz_Aerine/
Ozoneocean - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/ozoneocean
PitFace - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/PIT_FACE/
Banes - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes/
Kawaiidaigakusei - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei/

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Episode 565 - Lady Barbarian

Jan 10, 2022

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“The Girl Boss in the sausagefest” Pitface and Tantz chat are here to chat with me about the subject or lady Barbarians: What they look like, where they originated, why they originated, what they mean, and the logic behind them. They're often overshadowed by their male counterparts (e.g. Conan), and often dismissed as simply an erotic male fantasy, but they've been around just as long and they've also had just as much of a role to play in the traditional “barbarian” mythos as the male versions. Sure, the sexy versions are abundant, iconic, and visually striking, but they're not the be all and end all!

Episode 562 - the plots the themes - The space between

Dec 20, 2021

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Merry Christmas and whatever you celebrate :) Interesting topic from Banes! It's his idea that sometimes the literal elements of a story (the plot etc.) are simply too weak to properly support the theme. He gives the example of The Truman show, where the idea is that a person is living a fake life under constant surveillance as the star of one of the most popular real life TV shows ever and he doesn't know anything about it… The themes are the power of the media, commercialism, the American dream, obsession with reality TV etc. Banes felt that although these themes were very strong the practical setup of the world and story weren't quite strong enough to support it.

Episode 549 - Love stories

Sep 20, 2021

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In today's cast we're chatting about LOVE stories! This isn't a subject we get into much but it's a huge genre so we thought we'd tackle it. We thought none of us even WORK in that genre till I belatedly realised that Banes and I sort of DO with Bottomless Waitress hahaha! There's all sorts of love in there… Sorry for the sound quality with this one I've no idea what went wrong.

Episode 539 - Schemers

Jul 11, 2021

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Schemers can be part of some great stories when they're done well! When they're done badly though they're very annoying! Schemers, plotters and planers have become a super annoying trope in anime: at the end of the first or second episode a person will show up in the shadows and say that they're amused how things are all going as predicted and planned…. They'll appear again at the half way mark of the series and again 3 episodes before the end in the run up to their climactic battle with the protagonist. It's a trope and a formula. Sometimes it works, often it doesn't.

Episode 512 - Fire and Ice Commentary

Jan 3, 2021

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Happy 2021 everybody!!!!! For this fun first of year Quackcast We do a commentary and reaction to the Ralph Bakshi and Frank Frazetta classic sword and sorcery animated movie from 1983, Fire and Ice! Tantz and Banes have never, ever seen it before so it was a new experience to them and maybe to YOU as well? Fire and Ice is a simple fantasy story about evil prince Necron who wants to rule over all the lands using his control of a huge glacier. Brave Princess Teegra, Larn (mullet head), and Darkwolf (the Deathdealer), team up to battle to stop him destroying the southern lands. It was done with rotoscoped animation which made the figures look quite realistic. Rotoscoping is basically filming real actors and then taking out the background and painting over their bodies and turning them into cartoons. It's an analogue old fashion way of doing motion capture, like they do in modern 3D CGI animation.

Episode 450 - happy Halloween horror franchises

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Tantz is dressed fabulously as a queen and I'm a skull faced monstrosity… I'm also wearing a costume, hahaha! Which you can see in our Patreon video ;) Queen Tantz Bathory and prince of horror Banes join me to talk about Horror movie franchises, what makes them work and what doesn't- as franchises rather than just a stand alone movie. The problems facing a movie series about horror are different from other genres and focus more on formula than just characters the way they do in most other types of film so it's an interesting discussion.

Episode 442 - Death comes to all

Sep 2, 2019

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