UPDATE: Okay, need to rest for 24 more hours before I can even begin to work on this comic…next new comic will probably be up Saturday. I apologize, folks. Also, I changed Goro's line in Panel 4; my little homage to “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.” I like how most of you came up with creative explanations for my little research mistake regarding the flammability of rubbing alcohol; thank you. That's the mark of truly loving fans. I guess I can always claim “Dramatic License.”
OLD POST: Okay, early version up, I'm _almost_ done with the colors for the previous page…you can see it in progress there… and yow, Cammy without the hat looks way too much like Goro, especially without color. I need to diversify my facial structures…like that guy who draws “Fans!”
Oh, a “So Bad It's Horrible” entry on TV Tropes? Yikes… well, can't please everyone, I guess.
@Anonymous
Where has Goro tried to kill the thieves? The closest you could argue is the rejuvenation, and that was an accident and not intended. The ruthlessness of the thieves is clearly shown in that Goro irritated them and now they will kill him. It wasn't even treated as a major decision. Most smart criminals try to avoid fatalities in the first place not because they are nice people or have anything against killing someone but because the legal penalties for armed robbery and murder are quite different.
I have to agree with Lighthawk. Although rubbing alcohol isn't the most energetic combustable, it does still pack a punch. One project I had to do in high school was create a hot air balloon for which the only fuel was an alcohol soaked cotton ball.
As for burning the alcohol on your hand, the easiest way to do it is by using a solution of alcohol and water. The water evaporates and takes the heat away so you don't get burned while the alcohol fuels the flame. How I've used it is to "burn" dollar bills and have them come out unscathed.
Finally, for the "So bad it's horrible" by definition it's something that nobody likes, therefore, since you have all these people here, myself included, that like this comic it is clear that the label does not apply and someone seems to agree because there is no mention on the page anymore.
I could find no trace of Dragon Doctors on the So Bad It's Horrible page. Maybe it got taken down? Seems like a pretty clear case of Complaining About Shows You Hate to me, which is not what the SBIH section is for, according to the description.
@ Anonymous: I would like you to know that I find Goro's assumption safe and plausable. I, personally, would find it out of character for Goro NOT to assume the worst, given her military background. The theives said that they are trying to make alot of money quickly, or else they will be killed. Bringing in even more cash would mean that they get a tidy profit out of the same venture as well. Added to which, rejuvination fluid would be common in most hospitals, so why would they go to a large one like this for only a galon drum of that? Much more plausable that they came for both the Drum and the Essence, meaning that Goro would die anyway.
And, even accepting their story, that they only came for the Drum, it is likely that, finding out that there is the Essence there, most theives, when faced with the possibility of their own demise if they don't make enough money, would happily steal it as well. Goro would understand this, and wouldn't trust them further than she can throw them while on an operating table IN HER CURRENT STATE.
That is just my oppinion on Goro's character, however.
I canât remember if I have ever posted here before, so I will start to say that I really enjoy the Dragon doctors. The comic is exiting, funny and truly unique. Keep up the good work Speedball!
Now about rubbing alcohol. It sees to me, that all the âcleverâ people here that think that getting burning rubbing alcohol splashed into your face is not going to cause serious burns have little experience if any with burning the stuff themselves.
I have plenty of experience with burning the stuff, and I can assure you that the flames are quite hot and can easily cause serious burns. It is true that you can apply it to your skin and burn it without any harm, but that only works if it is on a more of less horizontal surface. All flames are hottest at the top, so as long as all your skin is under the flames you are not burned (at least not seriously). In the comic the burning alcohol is however applied to a vertical surface, so the thief will feel the full heat from the top of the flames and such get seriously burned, maybe not enough to cause permanent damage, but enough to disable her long enough for Goro to take her out.
Also when thrown trough a flame the way that it is in the comic, the alcohol will burn in a much more âexplosiveâ way than when applied to skin and then set on fire afterwards.
I know I don't comment much (I think I commented once before), but I read most every day (yes, even if I already read that day's strip). My guess was there was something special about the magical flame that either caused the alcohol to burn hot enough or to carry the flame. This also lets Goro off the hook for maiming the guy, after all, if Goro knew that about alcohol she would have meant it as a distraction, not a way to inflict serious burns.
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Oh and about the "So Bad It's Horrible" business, you have to gain a certain amount of notability before people post on a place like TV Tropes about you without being a fan. :)
anonymous
at 7:02AM, May 27, 2010
First time I'm commenting on this wonderful comic. Just feel I had to for this one. I'm going against the grain here but I really really love this comic.
For some reason after this I'm starting to dislike Goro. I'm almost hoping he loses this battle. The thieves were actively trying to ensure no casualties, including Goro himself with a deal. Yes I'm assuming they would have kept their word, but Goros automatically assumed they wouldn't in his actions and is crossing a fine line. Hes going to kill them on the 'possibility' they will kill him and took advantage of the 'truce' assumed. All his opponents before without a doubt would have killed him but this is a completely different situation. Its a very very dark moment for Goro... I have more sympathy for the bad guys then the dragon doc at this moment. Weird I know.
The rubbing alcohol wouldn't burn her flesh like that but that really isn't a problem. It is entirely plausible that the rubbing alcohol "carried" the magical flame to her face.
There's worse facial discernment out there, Speed. "Misfile", or "Red String" come to mind, where I really wish the artists would hang little signs around the characters' necks, because I can NEVER keep track of who's who. Red String has to be the worst offender -- the main character started out with blonde hair, and that's how I told her from the rest of the girls. When she dyed it back to black, I couldn't tell her apart unless someone called her by name!
Yes, you can dip your arm in rubbing alcohol and set it on fire without doing any significant damage (or even much discomfort). It's a standard magician's trick. But alcohol in the eyes is another story--pretty painful in itself. If it were on fire, well...
I suppose the patient on the phone in the last panel is now going to panic and screw things up big time, since life is never easy.
That's... not actually possible....
Rubbing alcholol burns at a relatively low temperature; you can burn it off your skin with no damage beyond singed hair. Also, it'd be almost entirely consumed by the time it reached her through the flame.
It could set her hair on fire, though. You could do that...
First, I see what you mean in the third panel, cause they do look alike. Second, OUCH! Flaming liquid to the face is something I didn't expect, but since this is Goro I guess I should have. Good thing they are already in a hospital for that.
anonymous
at 6:39AM, May 26, 2010
Speed, believe me, I've seen So Bad It's Horrible. This ain't it.
i always used to get this advice from my teachers; when you're in doubt, use geometrical shapes, they can help a lot not only on facial structures but also in anatomy and more.
anonymous at 8:47AM, May 30, 2010
Doh. Him to her. :P
anonymous at 8:46AM, May 30, 2010
@Anonymous Where has Goro tried to kill the thieves? The closest you could argue is the rejuvenation, and that was an accident and not intended. The ruthlessness of the thieves is clearly shown in that Goro irritated them and now they will kill him. It wasn't even treated as a major decision. Most smart criminals try to avoid fatalities in the first place not because they are nice people or have anything against killing someone but because the legal penalties for armed robbery and murder are quite different.
FireDragons at 8:35PM, May 29, 2010
I have to agree with Lighthawk. Although rubbing alcohol isn't the most energetic combustable, it does still pack a punch. One project I had to do in high school was create a hot air balloon for which the only fuel was an alcohol soaked cotton ball. As for burning the alcohol on your hand, the easiest way to do it is by using a solution of alcohol and water. The water evaporates and takes the heat away so you don't get burned while the alcohol fuels the flame. How I've used it is to "burn" dollar bills and have them come out unscathed. Finally, for the "So bad it's horrible" by definition it's something that nobody likes, therefore, since you have all these people here, myself included, that like this comic it is clear that the label does not apply and someone seems to agree because there is no mention on the page anymore.
MelTorefas at 1:44PM, May 29, 2010
I could find no trace of Dragon Doctors on the So Bad It's Horrible page. Maybe it got taken down? Seems like a pretty clear case of Complaining About Shows You Hate to me, which is not what the SBIH section is for, according to the description.
Darius Drake at 4:36AM, May 29, 2010
@ Anonymous: I would like you to know that I find Goro's assumption safe and plausable. I, personally, would find it out of character for Goro NOT to assume the worst, given her military background. The theives said that they are trying to make alot of money quickly, or else they will be killed. Bringing in even more cash would mean that they get a tidy profit out of the same venture as well. Added to which, rejuvination fluid would be common in most hospitals, so why would they go to a large one like this for only a galon drum of that? Much more plausable that they came for both the Drum and the Essence, meaning that Goro would die anyway. And, even accepting their story, that they only came for the Drum, it is likely that, finding out that there is the Essence there, most theives, when faced with the possibility of their own demise if they don't make enough money, would happily steal it as well. Goro would understand this, and wouldn't trust them further than she can throw them while on an operating table IN HER CURRENT STATE. That is just my oppinion on Goro's character, however.
Kris Lighthawk at 4:12AM, May 28, 2010
I canât remember if I have ever posted here before, so I will start to say that I really enjoy the Dragon doctors. The comic is exiting, funny and truly unique. Keep up the good work Speedball! Now about rubbing alcohol. It sees to me, that all the âcleverâ people here that think that getting burning rubbing alcohol splashed into your face is not going to cause serious burns have little experience if any with burning the stuff themselves. I have plenty of experience with burning the stuff, and I can assure you that the flames are quite hot and can easily cause serious burns. It is true that you can apply it to your skin and burn it without any harm, but that only works if it is on a more of less horizontal surface. All flames are hottest at the top, so as long as all your skin is under the flames you are not burned (at least not seriously). In the comic the burning alcohol is however applied to a vertical surface, so the thief will feel the full heat from the top of the flames and such get seriously burned, maybe not enough to cause permanent damage, but enough to disable her long enough for Goro to take her out. Also when thrown trough a flame the way that it is in the comic, the alcohol will burn in a much more âexplosiveâ way than when applied to skin and then set on fire afterwards.
Shinali at 10:18AM, May 27, 2010
I know I don't comment much (I think I commented once before), but I read most every day (yes, even if I already read that day's strip). My guess was there was something special about the magical flame that either caused the alcohol to burn hot enough or to carry the flame. This also lets Goro off the hook for maiming the guy, after all, if Goro knew that about alcohol she would have meant it as a distraction, not a way to inflict serious burns. ___ Oh and about the "So Bad It's Horrible" business, you have to gain a certain amount of notability before people post on a place like TV Tropes about you without being a fan. :)
anonymous at 7:02AM, May 27, 2010
First time I'm commenting on this wonderful comic. Just feel I had to for this one. I'm going against the grain here but I really really love this comic. For some reason after this I'm starting to dislike Goro. I'm almost hoping he loses this battle. The thieves were actively trying to ensure no casualties, including Goro himself with a deal. Yes I'm assuming they would have kept their word, but Goros automatically assumed they wouldn't in his actions and is crossing a fine line. Hes going to kill them on the 'possibility' they will kill him and took advantage of the 'truce' assumed. All his opponents before without a doubt would have killed him but this is a completely different situation. Its a very very dark moment for Goro... I have more sympathy for the bad guys then the dragon doc at this moment. Weird I know.
andy9306 at 7:17PM, May 26, 2010
The rubbing alcohol wouldn't burn her flesh like that but that really isn't a problem. It is entirely plausible that the rubbing alcohol "carried" the magical flame to her face.
ecchi_kitty at 5:01PM, May 26, 2010
Not certain, but looks to me like that's what happened. The rubbing alcohol was a distraction and vector, caught the hair/shirt on fire.
ArdRhi at 3:30PM, May 26, 2010
There's worse facial discernment out there, Speed. "Misfile", or "Red String" come to mind, where I really wish the artists would hang little signs around the characters' necks, because I can NEVER keep track of who's who. Red String has to be the worst offender -- the main character started out with blonde hair, and that's how I told her from the rest of the girls. When she dyed it back to black, I couldn't tell her apart unless someone called her by name!
tramline at 12:12PM, May 26, 2010
Yes, you can dip your arm in rubbing alcohol and set it on fire without doing any significant damage (or even much discomfort). It's a standard magician's trick. But alcohol in the eyes is another story--pretty painful in itself. If it were on fire, well... I suppose the patient on the phone in the last panel is now going to panic and screw things up big time, since life is never easy.
theBSDude at 10:24AM, May 26, 2010
That's... not actually possible.... Rubbing alcholol burns at a relatively low temperature; you can burn it off your skin with no damage beyond singed hair. Also, it'd be almost entirely consumed by the time it reached her through the flame. It could set her hair on fire, though. You could do that...
Mr Kaos at 9:18AM, May 26, 2010
Damn.. it looks pretty painfull. I didn't honest expect Goro to do this. She is pretty dangerous and cruel when she has to. I like it. :)
M_Northstar at 9:05AM, May 26, 2010
Eh, what do those besserwissers know? Anyone with any sense and taste knows how good your comic is.
Skulljack17 at 6:41AM, May 26, 2010
First, I see what you mean in the third panel, cause they do look alike. Second, OUCH! Flaming liquid to the face is something I didn't expect, but since this is Goro I guess I should have. Good thing they are already in a hospital for that.
anonymous at 6:39AM, May 26, 2010
Speed, believe me, I've seen So Bad It's Horrible. This ain't it.
Darius Drake at 1:46AM, May 26, 2010
I guess that it was a bad idea to threaten her, instead of just doing the spell straight out.
Pandafilando at 12:35AM, May 26, 2010
i always used to get this advice from my teachers; when you're in doubt, use geometrical shapes, they can help a lot not only on facial structures but also in anatomy and more.