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Quackcast 735 - Anime

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, April 15, 2025
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Welcome to another DD Quackcast! We were going to discuss Ad Hoc rationalisations and also “what happens AFTER you take over the world” but both topics were waaaay too trumpish and we didn't feel like getting negative and ranty about that fellow's foolishness so we thought we'd talk anime instead! But what is anime? At its simplest it's just cartoons like any other but they happen to be from Japan. There's more to it though, most anime has a articular look to it: reasonably realistically drawn worlds and reasonably realistic figures but they all tend to have slightly oversized heads, huge expressive eyes, tiny noses and mouths, and very stylised hair and reactions. That's not always the case but it's pretty typical. But these days “anime” is also made in Korea, China, France, the USA and more, it's become a style rather than a country of origin thing.

What differentiates it from Western animation? Mainly that the the figures were more realistically drawn, with more realistic and detailed backgrounds, while the typical Western style was much more stylised, flat, and simplified. These differences do not denote higher quality or a lack of quality, it's just about what's being prioritised: In Western animation all that flatness and stylisation meant that facial expressions could be enhanced, animation could have more more frames and everything could look smoother and more dynamic. For anime that mean you could have much better drawn, more realistic looking figures (always with 5 fingers!), as well as things like shading, reflection, and shadows, along with much more detailed worlds that they exist in. The trade-off was less frames, jerkier animation and many simplified scenes where they repeat movements, pan and zoom over still backgrounds to fake movement, and even replace backgrounds with things like lines to indicate movement.

The upshot of this was that the more realistic style in most anime can have more appeal to adults, while the much more abstract style favoured by Western animation is always seen as a bit childish so it's been harder to maintain the adult animation industry in the west and it's not anywhere near as diverse. But the real difference is that the animation industry in Japan is massive because of the culture of producing manga which gives animation a constant pipeline of massively varied and interesting material, and the insatiable appetite of the public for new series. And because so much is constantly being produced it means the diversity of story style and genre is incredible and there is something for EVERYONE, of all ages groups, rather than the mainly violence and or sex focussed adult stuff, Simpsons clones, or kid focussed stuff in the West. It's a big, fully mature industry, while the western animation industry just isn't- it's much smaller and the older teen and adult part of it is immature so that diversity of style and genre is weak and very inconsistent.

Would you agree? What are your fave animes?

This week Gunwallace has given us a theme inspired by Landscapes and Stick Figures - A mechanically surreal piece, like mechanised people all made of crystal glass, dancing in an intricate series of interweaving and interlocking moves. It’s quite beautiful.


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Featured comic:
Water Lily Hight - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2025/apr/07/featured-comic-water-lily-high/

Featured music:
Landscapes and Stick Figures - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Landscapes_and_Stick_Figures/ - by Lagoticspy, rated E.

Special thanks to:
Gunwallace - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Gunwallace/
Tantz Aerine - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Tantz_Aerine/
Ozoneocean - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/ozoneocean
Banes - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes/


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Ozoneocean at 8:12PM, April 23, 2025

@Marco, you're right! Very good point.

marcorossi at 11:08PM, April 15, 2025

My two cents: the big difference between Japanese comics and animation and western one is that in the west, because of culture or censorship, there was a bigger distinction between kid products and adult stuff, whereas in Japan it was more graduated, and this asked for a style that could work for both audiences. This started already with Tezuka, with stuff both for kids and for adults. But I think the west is slowly following Japan now. (It is weird to think to it but LOTR was originally young adult stuff, now no adult would feel ashamed of watching Harry Potter, if not for political reasons, but ince it was different).

Ozoneocean at 8:03PM, April 15, 2025

@Jason Moon - I miss the cyberpunk fad from the 90s, that was the THING back then, everything was so solidly into it- we had all sorts of funky power-armour, robots, suits, glowing displays, lasers, scary bloody machines... And it was ALL hand drawn too, no cheaping out with computers for all the background characters and buildings and interiors- I mean something like Ghost in the Shell had some CG in the begining when her body was being created but that wasn't pretending NOT to be CG and it would have only been used then for that small part because it was very expensive.

Ozoneocean at 7:57PM, April 15, 2025

@Banes- Thanks man!

Jason Moon at 8:05AM, April 15, 2025

I miss the 90's style anime like Lain, Berserk, Genocyber, Neon Genesis Evangelion. There are great animes now a days but none really surprise me like the classics did. I feel like the story telling was better back in the day.

Banes at 7:49AM, April 15, 2025

Brilliant cover art, haha. Quail just needs a school uniform

Ozoneocean at 7:04AM, April 15, 2025

Ha! I'd get an artist who's better at Manga style. It's really alien to me 😅

bravo1102 at 6:29AM, April 15, 2025

That could be a comic. 🤣 Along with Chibi versions of various duckers. 🤣

Ozoneocean at 5:42AM, April 15, 2025

Thanks Bravo 😊

bravo1102 at 12:41AM, April 15, 2025

Mecha duck and waifu quail.


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