Episode 588 - Revisiting Old Ideas

Jun 20, 2022

Sometimes it's worth revisiting old ideas because you can do them better or explore them deeper. This could be in the form of a full reboot, or it could be as simple as reusing a pose in a panel or using the same theme again like Pixar does with 90% of their output i.e. “coming of age”. Like them you don't need to feel obligated to always do something totally original, revisiting old ideas is a great way to refine them, create better work, or explore different aspects of them you hadn't considered before and put new and interesting spins on things. Consider that Pixar's Turning Red, Encanto, Moana, Coco, The Incredibles 2, Ratatouille, Inside Out, Brave, Onward, and Luca all share the same “coming of age/childhood independence” theme and yet all do it in unique and original ways, exploring different aspects of the idea from all sorts of angles.

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Most of the women that Frank Cho and Milo Manara draw look the same, but they do it in such an interesting way that people love them nevertheless. Leonardo daVinci and or his students painted at least 4 different Mona Lisas and probably many drawings; practice make perfect! How many film and comic versions of the origin story of Batman, Superman, and Spider-man are there? SarahN on Drunk Duck used to restart and redo her comic “Vampire Phantasm” annually, maybe 5 different times, and it just got better and better and more interesting with each iteration. Amelius on DD did a soft reboot of the origin of Charby The Vampirate called “ReVamped” where she went back and tweaked the origin story a little and redrew the pages with much improved art, however she didn't stop working on the original story, that kept going at the same time!

So you see there is a lot of merit in revisiting things and improving upon them! For every George Lucas inserting bad animation and “Noooooo”s into iconic and much loved films there are many more people who revisit older creations and do much better things with them. What do you wish you could redo with your work or how do you reuse old ideas? For me it's usually specific panels… sometimes they bug me too much and I go back and change them. They could be 15 years old but I'll still do it!

This week Gunwallace has given us a theme to TAoSP The Adventures of Sir Power - In the words of the master behind this tune: funky theme for a comic that's a little bit ‘funky’. It really is a bouncing funk, with a fuzzy, spiky sound that vibrates and cuts its way through.

Topics and shownotes

Links

Charby The Vampirate ReVamped - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/ReVamped/
You can find SarahN's much revisited Vampire Phantasm here - http://www.vermillionworks.com/
*Wrongly called “Jack” in the cast.

Featured comic:
The Werewolf Prince - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2022/jun/14/featured-comic-the-werewolf-prince/

Featured music:
TAoSP - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/TAoSP/ - by Zero Hour, rated M.


Special thanks to:
Gunwallace - http://www.virtuallycomics.com
Tantz Aerine - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Tantz_Aerine/
Ozoneocean - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/ozoneocean
PitFace - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/PIT_FACE/
Banes - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes/
Kawaiidaigakusei - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei/

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