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DragonTrainer on Feb. 13, 2013
at 7:39PM, Feb. 14, 2013
Oh, and yes I realize this is a Comic based on D&D 3.5, but there are Called Shot rules in D&D 3.5, and as such there is the chance to do specific types of damage to specific area's of the body when making a called shot. Not sure if Luke used such rules when hitting Kuro in the face, but such a hit would make sense.
at 7:37PM, Feb. 14, 2013
With regard to Luke... I believe it has been stated that he has memorized the bloody rule books. So saying that he can't munchkin is kind of pointless.
at 7:34PM, Feb. 14, 2013
you realize that a pistol can yield pounds of force equivalent to around 850 pounds or even greater? So can we agree that getting hit with roughly 850 pounds in the face by a fist is enough to shatter a face, or at least break the bones in the face? Unless Kuro discovered some means by which to render that much blunt force trauma obsolete when he isn't expecting to get hit by it (even the so called Iron Style Martial Artists who can absorb such blows have to be expecting the blow to begin with), then he should have been knocked unconscious at least temporarily.
at 11:06PM, Feb. 13, 2013
Which reminds me- regarding "The Munchkin Trio". I'd guess that the trio is actually DM, GM, and Cory, rather than Luke, GM, and Cory. Early on it's mentioned that Cory did a lot of the work on Luke's character sheet. Luke also seems more concerned about just having fun and roleplaying his character than the power. Plus, a lot of his build is either stuff Cory helped him with, or stuff he's copied from GM's NPCs. Plus a few things he probably looked up on his own. I mean, he spent all of his starting wealth on the hat, solely because it looked cool.
at 11:03PM, Feb. 13, 2013
Actually, at this point in the story, Luffy's punches are about as powerful as a Pistol, as far as I can tell, but with the surface area of a fist instead of a bullet. Zoro- and by extension Kuro as well I would imagine- would probably be able to take multiple punches to the torso without going down. It's the fact that he got hit in the face unexpectedly that laid Kuro out. Centre of gravity and leverage and all that.
Besides which, this is Grand Line 3.5, not the canon show/manga. As powerful as Luffy is, I'd be disappointed if DM hadn't built a character that could take at least TWO hits before falling unconscious. Even if her plan for Kuro was to have him be untouchable, she'd have to be smart enough to take into consideration the chance that she'd be ambushed and caught flat-footed due to a failed spot check somewhere down the line.
at 8:02AM, Feb. 13, 2013
except that technically in the anime (possibly the manga) he was temporarily knocked unconscious. Keep in mind Kuro is a human without Devil Fruit Powers, Rukoshiki Abilities, or Haki. So in essence all of his vastly superior speed comes from merely overworking his muscles to the breaking point time and time again. Even Zoro in all his badassedness would be hard pressed to not get the stances knocked out of him if he were to be hit in this episode with every ounce of Luffy's quite considerable strength amplified by the sheer amount of force Luffy can put into his punches. Luffy's punches probably have the impact rate of a ton of bricks (literally) even this early in the series. To tell you the truth, Kuro's face should have shattered when hit by Luffy just now.
at 7:32AM, Feb. 13, 2013
He wasn't temporarily unconscious as far as I can tell - he specifically said he was knocked down, NOT knocked out, last page.
And it's not that unlikely that he can maintain a stance while prone - it'd be a significant weakness otherwise.
at 12:18AM, Feb. 13, 2013
so Kuro/DM can maintain a martial stance while prone and temporarily unconscious?