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Quackcast 638 - Rookie Mistakes

Ozoneocean at 12:00AM, June 6, 2023
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Beginners at webcomics make mistakes, rookie mistakes. In fact people tend to make a lot of the same mistakes and we're going to chat about some of those in the Quackcast, but there are certainly a LOT more!
A few common mistakes of first timers:
- They have too many comic panels so it takes ages to draw and artwork and text become too small.
- They plan way too much, sometimes for month or even years before starting the actual comic. Planning is good but not when it prevents you from actually starting.
- Their art or designs are too complicated so that they can't sustain it for more than a few pages and they give up.
- Their story is too complicated so that it's too hard to translate into a comic or it would take too long to draw.
- The cover art doesn't match their artwork in the comic. Great way to turn off readers.
- Too much expository text.
- They make their comic too raunchy (when it's not a sexy comic) and limit their potential audience because it needs a higher rating and can't be displayed on most comic sites.
- They think they'll get popular and famous right away.
- They think people will just “find” their comic and rely too heavily on Google and the internal promotion system of their comic host.
- Filler pages, especially generic ones are a huge turn off. If you MUST do them show a BTS thing like a rough version of your comic page.
- Aggressive marketing. Don't be a one-eyed dick when promoting your work, it can have the opposite effect and make people avoid you.
- Giving up when you don't get feedback or if you miss a few updates. Keep working at it, people will come eventually, especially if you're a bit social. And people will still come back after missed updates. Stick with it!


Did you fall victim to any of those? Tell us some of your own rookie mistakes? :)

This week Gunwallace has given us the theme to Mirage - light dances around the sparkling surface of a smoothly curved, shiny object. Our view shifts and we dive through its hollow centre, observing the complex geometry of this unusual three dimensional object. Overlaying synthesised sounds.

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Featured comic:
Plusum - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2023/may/31/featured-comic-plusum/

Featured music:
Mirage - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Mirage/ - by InkyMoondrop, Rated E.

Special thanks to:
Gunwallace - http://www.virtuallycomics.com
Ozoneocean - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/ozoneocean
Kawaiidaigakusei - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei
Banes - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/banes
Tantz Aerine - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Tantz_Aerine/

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Furwerk studio at 8:54AM, June 7, 2023

Nakamura Rex is one huge pile of beginner mistakes being slowly banged out over time, Faustenstein was just the proto-dough that lead into it.

Ozoneocean at 12:39AM, June 7, 2023

Speach bubbles are difficult... I've found no approach is the best haha, they all have drawbacks XD

Jason Moon at 8:42PM, June 6, 2023

When I first started drawing comics I would illustrate backgrounds and characters with the speech bubbles. But doing that would make it difficult to fit in dialogue (Especially creating traditionally). So I found that after I drew in the background and characters I would just write in the text then illustrate the speech bubble around later which saves so much trouble and your speech bubbles always look good. This is a smart approach if you write in your own font in your speech bubbles instead of typing in a dialogue.

J_Scarbrough at 12:02PM, June 6, 2023

Here is another rookie mistake not listed here that I see sometimes in even professional comics: the Crossbar I. Granted, I know with some fonts, it can be easy to not realize whether or not you left the cap lock on, but the general rule of thumb is Crossbar I is only for first-person pronouns (I, I'm, I'll, I'd, etc.)

PaulEberhardt at 10:58AM, June 6, 2023

I've been thinking... I remember that long, long ago, there was a webcomic on how not to do a webcomic, where the contributors deliberately made every mistake in the book and beyond. I can't remember its title and don't find it anymore. After a bit of searching I'm not even sure if it was here on Drunk Duck or anywhere else. If it doesn't exist any more, it might be a fun community project to consider. What do you think? Does anyone else know more about it?

Banes at 10:20AM, June 6, 2023

love that title image xD

J_Scarbrough at 9:37AM, June 6, 2023

I am guilty of that second mistake, but for good reason. VAMPIRE GIRL's inaugural run on Smack Jeeves in 2011-2012 has absolutely no readership whatsoever, and because of that, I felt no inspiration to continue on with Levana's story, even though I had the idea for the currently in-progress season/chapter all the way back then. It was only when there was suddenly a renewed interest in the Levana character starting back in 2020 that I felt like maybe now was the time to continue her story, so starting in the beginning of 2021, I began working on the comic that people have been reading since last October - I knew with my painstakingly detailed art style, I needed as much of a buffer as I could give myself.

PaulEberhardt at 9:22AM, June 6, 2023

Most of them, to be sure... It's all part of a learning process. The biggest mistake seems to be missing, though: not listening to advice, taking it as a personal attack instead. It's one mistake I fortunately never made, but if it happens it starts a downward spiral that may include all of the above.

bravo1102 at 6:47AM, June 6, 2023

I really shouldn't explain anything anymore. I should save it for some theoretical advanced patreon level. XD

InkyMoondrop at 6:42AM, June 6, 2023

Perhaps the mistake I do regret is having the 1st a separate chapter from the 2nd, because together they're almost as long as the ones following and are both required to get a picture of how the story will be told afterwards, but I managed to compensate for it by releasing them in one e-book volume. I do fill it with a bunch of crazy ideas and genre elements because I like to experiment with it, so the multiverse, a zombie apocalypse, superheroes, religious satire, detective story etc seem like it's confused about what to be, but by the end of the 1st saga, a lots of these things will contribute to either the conflict or the resolution and feel establish their feet in regards of worldbuilding.

InkyMoondrop at 6:42AM, June 6, 2023

Hey, thanks for the music! I guess one thing that can get readers disengage with BD in the beginning is that so many characters pop up and it's difficult to follow (although I didn't want to tone that down, because essentially the story takes place in a town with lots of people, not just in a bubble of the few mains) or that it starts out as more-or-less episodic with lots of sex jokes and parodies, references which it later tones down on. But I didn't know at the beginning what direction I'd like to take the story in and looking back, I don't regret it: things happening since serve as a great contrast to how the MC used to experience just casual, everyday life before shit hit the fan in all fronts.

Ozoneocean at 6:02AM, June 6, 2023

Hahaha thanks guys! We really need an official comic with these two goofs

dpat57 at 12:45AM, June 6, 2023

Lots of explosions and shots on that sample comic page, love it, very dynamic. It's all-round good advice, if you can figure a way to send it to rookie me in 2008, via tachyon stream or whatever, that would be great.

bravo1102 at 12:34AM, June 6, 2023

Sometimes the raunchy bits are the whole point. XD

lothar at 12:15AM, June 6, 2023

I love the pic of quale and dick.... It's perfect


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