Episode 211 - How Mary Sure Are You?

Mar 23, 2015

Hello hello hello! This week Ozoneocean and Banes pirate another of HippieVan's much discussed newsposts. When the test for Mary Sue was brought up in our recent writing tests Quackcast it generated some heated talk so HippieVan went a little deeper into it and people responded again. Banes and I discuss those responses and try to come up with some sort of consensus on how to more properly use the Mary Sue test and some of its pitfalls: i.e. it's highly context sensitive and can't be used easily on certain genres (Superhero etc), it's also something you as a writer typically don't have to worry about unless you're inexperienced- or so Banes and I believe.

Topics and Show Notes

Topics and Show Notes:

Featured comic:
Psycho Babble - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Psycho_Babble/ />
Linkatronics:
Posts read from here -
http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2015/mar/05/avoiding-the-mary-sue-a-contest/ />Results of the Mary Sue comic contest - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2015/mar/19/mary-sue-contest-submissions/ />The dreaded test - http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm />
Contributions from:
Call Me Tom -
http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/The_Understanding/ />Tupapayon - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/tupapayon />Strixvanallen - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/strixvanallen />VinoMas - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/VinoMas />bravo1102 - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/bravo1102 />KimLuster - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/KimLuster />HippieVan - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/HippieVan />JustNoPoint - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/JustNoPoint />Peipei - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Peipei />usedbooks - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/usedbooks />irrevenant - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/irrevenant />Kou the Mad
Hayakain -
http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Hayakain />
Special thanks to:
The world's greatest Musician and BBQ chef, Gunwallace -
http://www.virtuallycomics.com />The most attractive man in the world and most intelligent Co-host, Banes - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes/ />Super qualified and amazingly beautiful featurer, Kawaiidaigakusei - http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei/ />
The theme song by Gunwallace this week was for:
Devil Spy -
http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Devil_Spy/ by Jaymzeecat.

Episode 209 - lurv triangles

Mar 9, 2015

9 likes, 8 comments

Around about Valentine's day, HippieVan's mind turned to thoughts of love... and she conceived of a great newspost idea that was very popular with people! Love triangles are very good for generating drama in your writing without having to worry too much about forcing that through external events. And because they're primarily driven by you characters as well as affecting them it's a great way to build on your characterisation through the drama. In HippieVan's words we outline a few notable love triangles in fiction, both classic, and contemporary, then we include the contributions the DDers who were good enough to add their two cents to the subject.

Episode 208 - Testing Your Writing

Mar 1, 2015

5 likes, 6 comments

In this Quackcast Banes and I discuss some methods for testing your writing, well mainly your characters, to see how well you really know them. We use a comedic character creation template that we have found is perfect for testing and learning more about your established characters, no matter how serious they are. It consists of four interrelated elements: Point of view; Exaggeration of the point of view; Faults; Relatability / Humanity. We also talk a little about the dreaded dangers of the Mary Sue... you never want your writing to fall in that putrid, cancerous hole of smelly excrement where your main character is perfect and all the others worship them. And lastly the very useful Bechdel test for seeing how rounded your female characters are. There are 3 rules: You have to have at least two named women; They who talk to each other; It's about something besides a man. We were both a bit sad about the death of Leonard Nimoy. R.I.P. Mister Spock.

Episode 206 - Turning An Idea Into A Comic

Feb 16, 2015

7 likes, 12 comments

Back in January our own HippieVan was in a quandary as to how to turn a creative idea she had into a webcomic, so she decided to put it o the DD community and croudsource their wisdom via a newspost. Banes and I thought the topic would make a good Quackcast, especially since we could read out all the interesting and informative posts people made on the subject! Banes has also approached the idea previously for Quackcast 68 where he outlines a screen-writing method called "save the cat", also known as "The Banes' Method". That Quackcast was since deleted but as a special treat I will re-upload it!

Episode 202 - The Lady is a Stranger

Jan 19, 2015

7 likes, 11 comments

Howdy Pardner, is you ready fer a western adventure? For Quackcast 202 we decided to build on the experiment we started in Quackcast 201. We constructed a play quickly with four people all working together. It took us all 3 hours to write, collaborating on a Google doc and over skype to make a half hour play, and it seems to have turned out pretty nicely! This is the last for now in our writing exercises. We only really show the play here and not the 3 hours of umming and ah-ing as we worked on it, because that was too much to edit down, but if it's something people would like to hear maybe we'll make a condensed version available some time in the future. For now please enjoy our little Western romance, train and bank heist adventure! And Bane's great piano playing! Oh, and the great intro music by Gunwallace called "Solosteel"!

Episode 201 - The Improvisationcast

Jan 13, 2015

5 likes, 7 comments

Pitface joins the duo of Banes and Ozoneocean once again, this time for the Improvisationcast! Pitface and Tantz Aerine do a lot of writing together when they work jointly on their script for Brave Resistance, but in order to further exercise their creative and collaborative muscles they also practise a turn by turn writing style where they improvise a story as they go. They start off with their own comic characters, one writes an intro and a bit with their character and the next one carries on after with their own character and also weaving the first person's character into the story with them, and so on. In the end you can produce a startling organic story that has forced you to examine the way your character would react to totally unfamiliar situations and stimuli. In this Quackcast we all experiment with this by doing an improvised play with characters we make up on the spot, to very mixed results....

Episode 176 - Endings, part 3

Jul 21, 2014

4 likes, 5 comments

For our FINAL part of our discussion of story endings we talk about yet MORE ending tropes, methods and styles. In a fit of towering arrogance and indefensible pomposity we even trash the mighty Shakespeare for his ending of Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet! Our contributors offered up some truly interesting perspectives on the matter or constructing story endings and we give them their due respect by reading them out in strange voices... As I've said in all of these so far: writing the end of a story is the hardest part so we hope to provide some clues on how to write a good one. Ad with that we reach the END of our exploration of ends! Next week we interview AMY and Nick from CHARBY THE VAMPIRATE!!!

Episode 175 - Endings, part 2

Jul 14, 2014

3 likes, 5 comments

Arrrr, this be the second part of our discussion on writing ENDINGS in stories of all kinds, particularly for webcomics! But we discuss a few movie and TV endings here, Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, No Country For Old Men, True Detective, and Dexter to name a few. Writings endings is the hardest part of the writing process, so it's lucky we had some wise contributions from people on how to do a good job of it! As well as giving examples of likes and dislikes... This is the second in our 3 part series on endings! I must apologise for the low quality of the recording here, there were very weird delay and repeating effects going on, Banes seems to be singing his own little madrigal at a couple of points. There are a a few parts I had to rerecord later; just a warning about the change of style.


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